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25/10/2008, 3:30 PM
oriel

Is it fair to say the first div is now down to a two horse race ? or have waterford fans still realistic hopes ? bad time to lose to 3-in-row although, you do have shels at home still.

I'd say we are looking very well placed with 2 home games in a row then to finish up away to Kildare, but Shels will go back on joint top with any sort of win on Monday, and Limerick wont be easy for us on Thurs, so still plenty of twists and tunrs ahead

Shels run in is def the hardest though.

Longford A
Fingal H
Wat`d A
Lim'k H

Dundalk's

Lim'k H
Athlone H
Kildare A
25/10/2008, 6:57 PM
Black and White

Massive result last night, and who wouldve taught, paul smyth poping up outa the wilderness!!lol
hopefully we'll be able to get s much needed result against Limerick....our new bogey team!!
25/10/2008, 9:03 PM
stann

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Originally Posted by oriel

Is it fair to say the first div is now down to a two horse race ? or have waterford fans still realistic hopes ? bad time to lose to 3-in-row although, you do have shels at home still.

There might be a few deluded souls but not many I'd say. :D
5 points is a massive gap to close in three games. For all that we're convinced we were done out of the game last night (and pretty conclusively won the 'who does that ref hate most' competition), the bottom line is our goalscoring has dried up at the worst possible time.
Was just saying it to a friend there earlier, a few weeks back we were top scorers in both divisions. Now we've gone four games only scoring twice. That's not going to get you anything in the run-in to a championship, nor should it.
25/10/2008, 9:28 PM
christo

Quote:

Originally Posted by oriel

Shels run in is def the hardest though.

Longford A
Fingal H
Wat`d A
Lim'k H

Dundalk's

Lim'k H
Athlone H
Kildare A

Longford, Fingal, Waterford and Limerick have nothing left to play for, however Athlone may need points from the game and even if Kildare don't need points from the game to avoid the drop they'll want to go out in some style also Dundalk have only beaten Kildare once at home in the last three games the other results being 0-0 and a 3-1 victory

So even though on paper it is an easier run in I don't think it will pan out that way
25/10/2008, 10:38 PM
Lim till i die

Quote:

Originally Posted by christo

Longford, Fingal, Waterford and Limerick have nothing left to play for

Well for our part we have our players under orders to roll over against Dundalk and go hell for leather against Shels.

But the players have a major axe to grind with Gill.

So we'll find out next Thursday how much they respect the fans. :)
26/10/2008, 1:15 PM
oriel

Quote:

Originally Posted by christo

Longford, Fingal, Waterford and Limerick have nothing left to play for, however Athlone may need points from the game and even if Kildare don't need points from the game to avoid the drop they'll want to go out in some style also Dundalk have only beaten Kildare once at home in the last three games the other results being 0-0 and a 3-1 victory

So even though on paper it is an easier run in I don't think it will pan out that way

I dont agree with that at all, Fingal and Waterford will still want to demonstrate they have a lot to offer and wont be offering any favours to shels, in fact why would they ? (or any team for that matter in any position)
27/10/2008, 11:01 AM
eamoss

What would happen if Dundalk and Shelbourne would end up on the same points and goal difference?

Would it come down to head to head meetings or a play off?
27/10/2008, 11:08 AM
holidaysong

Quote:

Originally Posted by eamoss

What would happen if Dundalk and Shelbourne would end up on the same points and goal difference?

Would it come down to head to head meetings or a play off?

We would take the title on goals scored.

Code:

P W D L GF GA Pts Dundalk 33 19 8 6 56 28 65 Shelbourne 32 18 8 6 51 23 62

Whatever about being level on points and goal difference, I can't see a situation arising where we are also level on goals scored..
27/10/2008, 11:26 AM
LeixlipRed

Very unlikely alright given your relatively easier run in.
27/10/2008, 11:57 AM
Lamper.sffc

Quote:

Originally Posted by christo

Longford, Fingal, Waterford and Limerick have nothing left to play for, however Athlone may need points from the game and even if Kildare don't need points from the game to avoid the drop they'll want to go out in some style also Dundalk have only beaten Kildare once at home in the last three games the other results being 0-0 and a 3-1 victory

So even though on paper it is an easier run in I don't think it will pan out that way

Me thinks that evaluation of the run in is a little optimistic.
If sporting win the game against athlone. You can bet it wont be hard to motivate the team against our Dublin rivals. Its an outside and very slim chance of the league but you play till its mathematically impossible to win it.
27/10/2008, 12:48 PM
holidaysong

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Me thinks that evaluation of the run in is a little optimistic.
If sporting win the game against athlone. You can bet it wont be hard to motivate the team against our Dublin rivals. Its an outside and very slim chance of the league but you play till its mathematically impossible to win it.

Also, even if they don't believe they can win the title, I'm sure Waterford will want to try and beat Shelbourne in order to leapfrog them into 2nd place..
27/10/2008, 1:38 PM
Kildareman

Quote:

Originally Posted by eamoss

What would happen if Dundalk and Shelbourne would end up on the same points and goal difference?

Would it come down to head to head meetings or a play off?

It would go to a play off and then the winner wouldn't get promoted.
Did you not know that???;)
27/10/2008, 6:40 PM
Lim till i die

Quote:

Originally Posted by eamoss

What would happen if Dundalk and Shelbourne would end up on the same points and goal difference?

Would it come down to head to head meetings or a play off?

Galway United will be promoted.
27/10/2008, 7:55 PM
oriel

Good win for shels tonight, under pressure with us going 3 clear on friday night, the huge match for shels is away to waterford on fri week, if we win our next two, both at home, the pressure will be massive going down there, Waterford were unbeaten at home up until last friday.

Its prob going to the last day now, Kildare v Dundalk + Shels v Lim`k, but I think we will be a few points clear going into that game.

Its going to be a great finish to the lge
27/10/2008, 8:32 PM
Lim till i die

Quote:

Originally Posted by oriel

Good win for shels tonight, under pressure with us going 3 clear on friday night, the huge match for shels is away to waterford on fri week, if we win our next two, both at home, the pressure will be massive going down there, Waterford were unbeaten at home up until last friday.

Its prob going to the last day now, Kildare v Dundalk + Shels v Lim`k, but I think we will be a few points clear going into that game.

Its going to be a great finish to the lge

Odd situation because if we play as well as we can we will beat you both.

Can't see it happening though.

Expect an experimental Limerick side Thursday.

One thing I will say though, if we do manage to shock ye, you can thank Jon Gills big mouth. :ball:

Also, am I right in thinking the First Division is finishing the day after the Premier??

If so, could we expect much of a turnout of Bohs and Pats in Tolka if Shels are playing for promotion??
27/10/2008, 10:07 PM
sligoman

Shels didn't look great tonight. Don't know if they normally play better but if they don't then they'll really need to strengthen(and I know they probably will) next season.
27/10/2008, 10:44 PM
Lim till i die

Quote:

Originally Posted by sligoman

Shels didn't look great tonight. Don't know if they normally play better but if they don't then they'll really need to strengthen(and I know they probably will) next season.

No one looks good in Flancare.

FACT!!!
29/10/2008, 8:43 AM
shep

After Sportings win last night,surely they give it a real good go against Shels on Friday.I actually fancy them for a result.
29/10/2008, 10:35 AM
Lamper.sffc

if we cant get motivated for the shels game and at least give it a go, I will be very disapointed.
Ourselves and waterford should be looking to make the top two fight all the way to the last day.

Cmon the Fingal
29/10/2008, 3:27 PM
Nesta99

We all should remember Dundalk's last league title(proper) was won from third spot on the last day as the team on top* dropped points to a relegated Athlone, Shels in 2nd lost..etc so its not over til its over! Fingal need little motivating, and Waterford should be hanging in there too. Squeaky bums all round lads if i may borrow words from Mr Alex Ferguson. Aside from the cold i dunno if i can bear the tension that will be in Oriel tomorrow evening:o

*name dropping in case a few northern friends getting upset...missed penalty n all ;)

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