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03/03/2008, 4:01 PM
Junior

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

ABout the same length of time Stan got as international manager :p. Alas, international games come round once in a blue moon so a player has to make a quick impact (like a manager) or it's curtains. Can't afford a player to be putting in poor performances in the hope he'll get better because there just isn't time.

Thankfully Mccarthy didnt have that approach or Duff would be an international 'has been' many many moons ago.
03/03/2008, 4:18 PM
Billsthoughts

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Originally Posted by Junior

Thankfully Mccarthy didnt have that approach or Duff would be an international 'has been' many many moons ago.

To the best of my recollection he did drop him for a good while and when he did bring him back it was as a striker.
03/03/2008, 4:56 PM
Paulie

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

owlsfan, what is it he earns in scotland?!

Yeah I was wondering about that. I thought that maybe Scotland had declared independence on the sly.
03/03/2008, 5:15 PM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

owlsfan, what is it he earns in scotland?!

I am not his accountant so I am not sure but if and hopefully when he moves to the Premiership in England, his wages will be doubled I suspect.

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Originally Posted by geysir

Gordon Banks :D
I went out there a few times, injun territory.
All I remember were the old fellas cracking jokes non stop.

"Old fellas": they were probably in their mid-forties.

My wife used to have an apartment in Inchicore. Once, purely as a Freudian slip, she said "Remember when I used to live in Insecure" :)
04/03/2008, 3:00 AM
eekers

rumours today that ramos is interested in him.
Nice to see him link up with keane at club level
04/03/2008, 8:49 AM
eirebhoy

Puyol:

"McGeady is a great player. I hope that we can control him, so that he does not cause us much damage."
04/03/2008, 9:28 AM
tetsujin1979

From Henrik Larsson's recent diary entry: http://www.icons.com/HL/diary.html?1.03.08

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Aiden McGeady is definitely a player I admire and he's been around for a while now with Celtic and the Irish national team. I expect him to really start making a big impression and these games in the Champions League are when he should be aiming to shine.

It really is up to him to show he can do it week in, week out and to be a crucial player on the big occasions. He faced Barcelona's Carlos Puyol and did very well. Puyol is a fantastic defender, so that's not too bad. He's still developing and I'm sure his time will come.
04/03/2008, 9:32 AM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

I just didnt want to open a can of worms...people can be quite sensitive.

Never stopped you in the past :p
04/03/2008, 11:14 AM
Billsthoughts

nor will it in the future....(just on this occasion I didnt want to drag it into a whose more Irish debate)
04/03/2008, 2:42 PM
BaZmO*

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

well in fairness to the Scots....we'd be the same if someone born here declared allegiance to another country.

Really? So if one of the many Polish or Nigerian lads that have been born here in recent years decided to declare for their parents respective countries they'd get stick for it?
04/03/2008, 2:48 PM
Billsthoughts

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Originally Posted by BaZmO*

Really? So if one of the many Polish or Nigerian lads that have been born here in recent years decided to declare for their parents respective countries they'd get stick for it?

Are you quoting my response then asking the question?
:confused:
04/03/2008, 3:06 PM
BaZmO*

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

Are you quoting my response then asking the question?
:confused:

I thought my question was quite clear.
04/03/2008, 3:13 PM
Billsthoughts

and I thought my answer you quoted before posing the question was as well.
04/03/2008, 3:22 PM
BigmanCas

baZmo - Bill is up to his old tricks - don't get sucked it - you might just receive a warning from Eirebhoy. Tread carefully.
04/03/2008, 3:25 PM
BaZmO*

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

and I thought my answer you quoted before posing the question was as well.

I was just expanding on the point by asking a question. Fair enough if you don't want to or can't answer it.

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Originally Posted by BigmanCas

baZmo - Bill is up to his old tricks - don't get sucked it - you might just receive a warning from Eirebhoy. Tread carefully.

Don't worry EB knows that I won't do anything to warrant a ban.
04/03/2008, 3:25 PM
Billsthoughts

how am I up to my old tricks? he asked me do I think Irish people would be the same if a son of an immigrant born here declared for another country whilst qouting me saying " Irish people would be the same if it was someone born here that declared for another country"
04/03/2008, 3:42 PM
Billsthoughts

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Originally Posted by BaZmO*

I was just expanding on the point by asking a question. Fair enough if you don't want to or can't answer it.

Not really like with like. But I suppose ya only have to look at the booing of players who have played for Rangers or booing or Roy Keane or no doubt what will be the booing of Stephen Ireland to see the Irish crowd are just as capable of booing players over perceived slights. Are Mageadys parents both not Scottish anyways?
04/03/2008, 3:50 PM
BaZmO*

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

But I suppose ya only have to look at the booing of players who have played for Rangers or booing or Roy Keane or no doubt what will be the booing of Stephen Ireland to see the Irish crowd are just as capable of booing players over perceived slights.

True. But I suppose that just leaves us agreeing that there are just as many idiots in Ireland as there are in Scotland! :D

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

Are Mageadys parents both not Scottish anyways?

They are indeed. His paternal Grandfather is Irish. But there are other well documented reasons why he chose Ireland over Scotland.
04/03/2008, 3:59 PM
Billsthoughts

Also what about the abuse shouted at some of our own players at matches? e.g. Robbie Keane and John O Shea. Our fans are well capable of shouting similar things to what was in the youtube clip. I think one of the factors that grates on the Scots more than anything was he was such a hot prospect and that he plays for one of the old firm.
04/03/2008, 4:25 PM
BigmanCas

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

Also what about the abuse shouted at some of our own players at matches? e.g. Robbie Keane and John O Shea. Our fans are well capable of shouting similar things to what was in the youtube clip. I think one of the factors that grates on the Scots more than anything was he was such a hot prospect and that he plays for one of the old firm.

He is a hot prospect Bill and not he was a hot prospect.
04/03/2008, 4:32 PM
Billsthoughts

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Originally Posted by BigmanCas

He is a hot prospect Bill and not he was a hot prospect.

when he declared for Ireland.
04/03/2008, 5:08 PM
eirebhoy

Good to see McGeady smiling and having a laugh as he always seems a bit depressed. :)

http://i27.tinypic.com/so671g.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/33m4obk.jpg
04/03/2008, 5:54 PM
eirebhoy

Zambrotta and Sylvinho the 2 full backs for Barca tonight. Puyol back at centre half. Celtic are playing 4-5-1 so McGeady might play in a central role.
04/03/2008, 6:35 PM
irishfan86

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Good to see McGeady smiling and having a laugh as he always seems a bit depressed. :)

http://i27.tinypic.com/so671g.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/33m4obk.jpg

All of their faces look like something out of Barney (the dinosaur).
04/03/2008, 7:35 PM
eirebhoy

He's having to play very deep tonight and every time he gets the ball there's literally 3 players on him. Good experience for him anyway.
04/03/2008, 7:35 PM
paul_oshea

this game is exactly what im talking about, mcgeady needs to be showing for the ball coming down to pick the ball up and relieve the defence....ive only seen nakamura do anything like that, mcgeady should be trying to get into this big time.
04/03/2008, 7:41 PM
paul_oshea

ya they are too smiley alright :D
04/03/2008, 7:41 PM
eirebhoy

Naka had the same problem in the first leg though. He's having to cover for the full back for most of the game.
04/03/2008, 7:44 PM
paul_oshea

mcgeady tried the kevin kilbane special there and looked like a flute.
04/03/2008, 8:02 PM
paul_oshea

he is coming into it more now, but constantly flagged by 2 alright, celtic need to be smarter, great cross there though. his crossing has definitely improved since the games last autumn
04/03/2008, 8:05 PM
paul_oshea

in this sorta game samaras should have been playing way earlier.
04/03/2008, 8:06 PM
cavan_fan

Are Barcelona as dominant as they were in Glasgow? (Am watching Milan-Arsenal) so looking for updates!
04/03/2008, 8:14 PM
paul_oshea

yes they are, its mad to think that in the last 16 of the CL there would be such a mismatch in clubs. Celtic are coming back in but thats only cos barca know they have it won and taken the foot off plus they have looked like scoring everytime they have gone forward.
04/03/2008, 8:30 PM
cavan_fan

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

yes they are, its mad to think that in the last 16 of the CL there would be such a mismatch in clubs. Celtic are coming back in but thats only cos barca know they have it won and taken the foot off plus they have looked like scoring everytime they have gone forward.

It says a lot about one of the teams, I guess future rounds will tell us whether Barcelona are a great team or Celtic are a team who have grossly overachieved
04/03/2008, 8:40 PM
eirebhoy

Barca had loads of chances but it was nowhere near as one sided a game as the first leg was. Hartley and Naka misplaced about 3 passes between them out of about 60. McGeady did well enough. Brown good in patches. Off the ball Celtic were terrible as usual but on the ball they looked much, much better so I'm happy enough.
04/03/2008, 10:27 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Barca had loads of chances but it was nowhere near as one sided a game as the first leg was. Hartley and Naka misplaced about 3 passes between them out of about 60.

Then it must have been Hartley who missed the 3, I thought Naka had a perfect score - was not dispossessed once, 100% pass success and not one tackle made.
04/03/2008, 10:53 PM
ramsfan

still has lots to prove , doing well in scotland is not much he is a big fish in a small pond so to speak, i think working with trapatoni and brady will help his career no end, i feel if he came to england at mo he would end up in the liam miller class . a good prospect but still needs to be more consistent in europe and for ireland imo
05/03/2008, 9:05 AM
paul_oshea

ya thats a very good assessment ramsfan.
05/03/2008, 9:33 AM
BigmanCas

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Originally Posted by ramsfan

still has lots to prove , doing well in scotland is not much he is a big fish in a small pond so to speak, i think working with trapatoni and brady will help his career no end, i feel if he came to england at mo he would end up in the liam miller class . a good prospect but still needs to be more consistent in europe and for ireland imo

Liam Miller can't even trap a ball? - Mc Geady is in a different class. How anyone can say that it would be better for him to remain at Celtic is bonkers. Whoever says this generally harps back to Miller/Stokes. Maloney and Petrov doing good things at Villa at the moment - why can't Mc Geady. I have no doubt that he is more than capable of taking the premiership by storm. He does not have to remain in the SPL for another two/three years to do this - he could do it yesterday.
05/03/2008, 9:50 AM
Billsthoughts

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Originally Posted by BigmanCas

Liam Miller can't even trap a ball? - Mc Geady is in a different class. How anyone can say that it would be better for him to remain at Celtic is bonkers. Whoever says this generally harps back to Miller/Stokes. Maloney and Petrov doing good things at Villa at the moment - why can't Mc Geady. I have no doubt that he is more than capable of taking the premiership by storm. He does not have to remain in the SPL for another two/three years to do this - he could do it yesterday.

Think he was making the comparison in terms of moving to the premiership too early and how it had a negative affect on Millers career. Dont think he was saying the two players were similar ability.

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