Cork will get at Genk.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
Genk never pressed Cork. It was the easiest possession Cork have enjoyed this season.
They just have to translate it into goals.
Bate are a much different proposition.
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Cork will get at Genk.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
Genk never pressed Cork. It was the easiest possession Cork have enjoyed this season.
They just have to translate it into goals.
Bate are a much different proposition.
Yup; Cork a far cry from the shambles in Iceland last year (or at least I presume it was a shambles; I was getting nicely drunk in a bar in Luxembourg at the time and wasn't watching. :) )
Concede at home and they're goosed, but with a full turners cross, you never know. Certainly doable anyway.
That ref needs learning what a tackle is. Gave Cork a free late on for a good Genk tackle; wasn't all one-way)
I thought the ref was shocking and poor for both sides throughout the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
A real pity Cork couldn't convert those numerous chances into one or two goals at least. They weren't even desperate, last-gasp chances either (as is so often the case with Irish sides in Europe). They were well-worked and they looked comfortable.
Cork definitely have enough about them to pull it off in the second-leg.
Respectable performance. They weren't overawed.. nor should they be. Genk are no great shakes.
Tie is wide open.
Cork should crowd round the referee at every decision when they play the home leg. get the cork crowd to really antagonise the $hite out of the Genk players, basically create an atmosphere that a spineless ref like the one tonight will cave in to.
they will need to keep the 18 year old quite tho, as well
Two hard working performances by Cork and Dundalk yet still two defeats.
However, I think both have a decent chance, but they probably have to score 2 goals while keeping a clean sheet, minimum, I just can't see both not conceding at home.
As much as I'd love to see it happening, I just can't see both Cork and Dundalk progressing, I hope I'm wrong, but I can see both both clubs losing their ties next week. Second legs can usually be the most dangerous.
Yeah I cant see it too,but fair dues to both teams for keeping the legs alive. Seems LOI teams are much more competitive these days. Gone are the dark days of 10-0 aggregate losses and losing to village teams from Wales. Thank god for small mercies
Anywhere in Dublin selling Dundalk tickets their site only says from the hatch in Oriel.
Will be available on the night. They haven't even started to sell the East Stand yetQuote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Our game is likely to be sold out in advance. The crowd really needs to get at this Genk side, and I know they absolutely will. I've seen very good teams crumble in Turners Cross, hopefully we'll see something similar. Our first priority is not to concede as that will eliminate us. If we get to half time at 0-0, playing into the Shed we'll give them some game!
It's great to see LOI sides really putting it up to these teams - that was not the norm 5 years ago in fairest - I know there was a few cases like Derry City etc.....
Exactly how I like the LOI results in Europe. A good show but no victories.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Money is too big now to be egging on your rivals in Europe. Especially when you're competing with them for a European spot in the league.
In fairness, you have to balance that alongside Pat's nearly getting knocked out by a Luxembourg team and Cork losing in Iceland last year from 1-0 up and a man up.
Five years ago was when Rovers got into the group stages after a respectable performance against Copenhagen and after beating Partizan Belgrade, while Pat's knocked out a Kazakh team (the Kazakh league wasn't as strong then as it is now - but I think that same team knocked out Celtic the following year?) and both Pat's and Sligo put in decent shifts in Ukraine in the next round.
So swings and roundabouts really.
I didn't realise Galway and Finn Harps were competing in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
Feels like the league has been getting similar results every year, give or take the odd anomaly, since the days when Shels, Cork and Derry were pulling off decent performances. I think in general, our teams try a bit harder than their opponents, which makes up for some of the skill gap, for whatever reason we probably see these matches as cup finals, in a way that a lot of opposing clubs don't.
The money now really could cause a far greater divide between the haves and have nots over the coming seasons, than we have ever seen before. Imagine another 2/3 years of Cork/Dundalk at the top making 500k-1.5mill each every season, it could lead to us having our own watered down version of what the SPL had for decades. The LOI has been notoriously unpredictable, for as long as I can remember, but for once, we seem to have a couple of clubs being run well within their means, and prospering, with no sign of letting up.
Not the best year to take as an example, 5 years ago Shamrock Rovers came back from Copenhagen with the same 1st leg result as Cork & Dundalk, 1-0 defeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by swinfordfc
Then of course they eliminated Partizan Belgrade in the Europa League play-off.
quick question, if cork can get past genk is it group stages or playoff round?
The Playoff round.Quote:
Originally Posted by usename
Thanks! had it in my head it was group stages till i had a look at uefa website ! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Wikipedia is your friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by usename
CL qualifiers
EL qualifiers
It's the LOI, things change quickly. Dundalk the prime example there.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
And sligo :pQuote:
Originally Posted by redobit
Or it could not. It doesn't take much for a team to go from finishing first to fifth, as Rovers proved. And the scale is incomparable to the SPL where there are two clubs that can command crowds 10x that of the average club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
In the case of Dundalk I imagine that any profits they make for the next few years will mostly go into sorting out the lease/stadium issues so I don't see them striding too far ahead of the chasing pack like in the SPL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
With Cork though I think it's a valid point. They already have the best ground in the league, with the best crowds, and they're squad is excellent. If they manage to win a couple of leagues and progress a few CL rounds over the next few years they could start building a sizeable gap from the rest.
Six days till the second leg and already have over half the ground sold
http://www.corkcityfc.ie/home/2016/0...e-recommended/
Interesting comments from The Gambler.
http://www.newstalk.com/Joe-Gamble:-Cork-City-will-struggle-to-hold-onto-Greg-Bolger-amid-Swedish-interest
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"When I played against Valur [in the Intertoto Cup in 2007], there was a right-back who played with Iceland recently in the European Championships. I remember saying to Damien Richardson; 'We should sign this young player'. Very good player. Could have got him for €100,000 and then sell him on to England. We dont have the foresight in our league. We dont have the finances to do that."
€100k for a right back? Go home Joe, you're drunk.
And mental.
4 European places are available. Is it a realistic ambition for Shamrock Rovers, Sligo Rovers, Derry and Galway to close the gap?Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
That particular right-back now plays in Hammarby (Swe) They got him more or less for free, since his contract ran out with Brann (Nor) in 2014Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
And his estimated value is around €300-500 at this time depending on where you look. He's now 32 years old and probably has his best years behind him. Still, he's one of few quality players in that team at the moment.
Source 1 2
And Häcken denied any interest in Bolger. Take it for what it is.
Source (Swedish)
An estimate from Transfermarket or something? Based on nothing and completely pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Re: Joe Gamble...
He gives out that they didn't sign a player that they couldn't afford even if they wanted to?
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Heading to the game Tuesday, how is the ticket situation going? anyway to get them online?
There will be lots of them on sale on the night in the car park. It's the east stand, unreserved seating, so no need to worry about not having one in advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
I think Dundalk have sold around 2.5k so far, as of Friday.
They will prob sell more on mon and Tuesday (west stand) but I can't see this being a sell out.
It was never going to sell out. Pats sold out on the morning of the Legia game but they're a local team. Rovers didn't even get to 6,000 for our first Europa game on a Thursday. The likelihood of a team from 100km away selling out on a Tuesday was always remote, which is nothing to be ashamed of.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
I was told when picking up tickets that the West Stand was close to sold out and that they were about to start selling for the East Stand, then whatever remained goes on general sale at the ground on the night. It means that the West Stand will have Dundalk fans grouped together plus a few in the East stand and the 'neutrals'. By the sounds of things 4000 wouldn't be beyond possible.
Try not to bring the torrential rain this time. They had to put in an entire new drainage system after the destruction your lot brought down for the Setanta final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I'd be happy with that. The game being on Eir Sport keeps a lot of the lukewarm support at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
The important thing is that it looks like we will have good support in the ground.
I would say if Dundalk get 4K for this match they would be very happy. For the match v FH, the crowd was 3,200, maximum seating capacity.
Both Dundalk and Cork have a decent chance this week to really push Irish football to a level not seen for years, but both probably need to score 2 without reply, and that's a big ask, and the bigger European side rarely misses out over two legs. I'd love to see both go through, most of us would, and maybe there is momentum building up in the run up to the games, however I just can't see it.
I think even one of the two going through would be a massive achievement, all about the first goal really, you get that and you have a great chance, but the second leg is usually the most dangerous one, and the away goal might kill both clubs in the end, but you never know.
Over 70% of tickets sold for our game on Thursday. Shaping up to be a great night, hopefully we can do it on the pitch. Big ask for both Irish clubs, but not impossible