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O'Shea is a follower not a leader, he can get through games for Man Utd without doing much wrong and that is why they held onto him but he is not the sort of player that could be one of the better players in any team. He has been playing well recently fair play to him and he played well against Slovakia for Ireland as well.
obviously you missed my sarcasm. He is doing better recently, but its only when you compare how usually p!ss poor he is, with his current form (his last maybe 5/6 club games he has played well).Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Consistently the worst player in an Irish shirt over the past few seasons-I watch his every move for ireland and his performances have been dire. San marino at home being the highlight. someone playing regularly for the best team in England should not always be this cr@p for ireland.
It's an obvious point but I think Stan may show a reluctance to drop O'Shea. In fairness to O'Shea, he's been a bit steadier of late but still nowhere near the positive, pro-active and dominant influence Ireland require. (This is based on Irish performances as he's being carried at United to a certain degree).
I think Joey O'Brien (if fit) and Finnan should be the full backs for the Autumn.
O'Shea should not be let anywhere near the midfield either.
Stephen Kelly and Darren O'Dea should be looked at in the left back role as an alternative to O'Shea even though it's not their preferred role they both look confortable enough there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
I agree 100% with you about the midfield. The day Staunton puts O'Shea back in central midfield is the day he should be handed his P45.
i dont get it.......!!
how do you know he is the worst if you are only watching him??? the fact that you admit you "watch his every move" illustrates the vendeta many ABUs have against him and want to pick on every mistake. and before you ask i'm not a utd fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by as_i_say
he is nowhere near our best player but isnt half as bad as people on here say
I'm not an ABU but O'Shea has been shi*e for Ireland. Anyone who has ever kicked a football or watched a few games could see that. Do I need to list examples?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
If so Switzerland in Basle in the Euros, Cyprus away (twice), Holland at home, San Marino away, Germany away, Croatia at home and Israel at home are all games you should watch.
In many of the other games he has been average at best. He has rarely been better than average (if ever) but is frequently worse. He has turned me into an ABOS (anything but O'Shea).
O'Shea hasn't been great for Ireland but his last two games have shown a distinct improvement and his form at Man U seems to have picked up as well. Credit where credit is due.
I still think it's all about standards though. If a 25 made his debut for Irelandagainst Slovakia and Wales and put in similar performances to O'Shea I wouldn't have been impressed. He always looks nervous, rarely moves too far forward and isn't convincing in defence.
It's a fair point - despite the reservations.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
He'll need to retain that upturn in form for the next few weeks as well..........
No he hasnt. Both have scored 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I'd be one of those, only I still have nightmares about Ian Harte.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
:D ABU!Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
i would rather see united win against any team that does not contain any irish players because o shea plays for them and is part of the irish set up. i hope he will pull the finger out for ireland but he has been consitently crap.
as for watching his every move you are implying that im using my eyes as a webcam on oshea-rubbish.
but yes, i do think he has consistently been the WORST player for ireland in the past few years, given the fact he plays nearly every game for us, his attitude is poor and he is lazy/falls asleep on the pitch.
its not his fault he keeps getting picked but it is his fault for being sh!te, ill admit he's been solid lately for man u but then again i coudnt care less about them, or any other english team ;)
To be fair to O'Shea I thought his performance against Slovakia was flawless and I would consider him to be still first choice full back (what side depends on the whims of "de gaffur") for September....Am hoping for decent performances from Foley/Geary/S. Kelly over the summer now to put pressure on him but, at the moment, its his position to lose...
At least he was good at freekicks.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
While there was an improvement, I would hesitate to use the word flawless in a description of his performance. At one stage the left winger was scorching him for pass, but he recovered. It was only when McGeady out paced the same winger and tricked away from him that I realised how slow O'Shea is. He's an average premier league player, but nothing more!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Ogba
I know people will just love me for resurrecting this thread ... vying for top spot with Ian Harte best left full in the world thread .. but saw this on youtube today .. and thought it was worth posting.
A dangerous question to ask .. but what would have happened had it gone in ...
Oh the memories....
if that one had gone in we would most likely have made it to germany , the french could have brought back platini fernandez and just fontaine for the next few games but we would have had the upper hand from then on
they would have equalised late like Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerMilla