I'd certainly have him on the bench ahead of Miller.
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I'd certainly have him on the bench ahead of Miller.
Another goal from a Delap throw in today
For Delap's throws to be effective (yesterday was a perfect example) you need someone at the near post who is a good header of the ball and who can help it on into the six yard box on even better, the team we have at present doesnt really have any notable headers of the ball. O'Shea, Kilbane or Dunne (i think our tallest players) wouldnt exactly be great target men.
Doyle can head the ball well. While not the tallest(not small either), he does have a good spring and a fair share of his goals come from the head. As for the players you mentioned. They are all good in the air and quite capable of helping a ball into the six yard box. Not that they need to help it into the 6 yard area as most of delaps throws get there without the help of a head.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Delap would be a useful player to bring off the bench (aerial bombardment with 15 minutes to go if chasing a game). I hope the Trap doesn't partner Miller with Whelan - Cyprus could give us the the run round if that is our central midfield pairing.
Just watched stoke vs tottenham, and delap was awesome! i never realised what a fit and athletic player he is! he even reminded me of steven reid. he scored the winning goal for stoke and also hit the crossbar, and i think he'd be more than capable of playing the midfield holding role, also his throw ins could create goals for us. i hope trap was watching!
Always poor enough in an Ireland shirt but he never really got a fair shake of it. He's certainly in with a shout at centre mid, along with about 12 others. Those throw-in's of his are absolutely lethal as well.
Obviously Pulis rates him above Whelan and I've no doubt hes better than Gibson, hopefully he'll be in there against Poland
Thread on Delap here:
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=99483
Give Delap a chance!
Delap downbeat over Ireland return
http://www.setantasports.com/en/Spor...ritain-locale/
He was also the top rated player for stoke on Sky Sports.
Also found this
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/1.248314
Giving him a chance would be a step backwards. He has never impressed in an Irish jersey and unfortunately its too late now for him. Gud game 2day tho
He has never played in position for Ireland either.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Delap put in a very accomplished performance from what I saw yesterday (60 minutes onwards) in a left midfield role. He always had to cut in on his right and frequently gave a clever reverse pass to an overlapping player on the outside. He attacked the 6 yard box well for his goal and hit the bar fom a rebound off the post when Stoke missed a penalty. He should have scored but it was by no means a Kevin Kilbane follow up!
If Trap is looking for an athletic presence in CM then Delap has it. No frills but I don't think Trap is looking for any. Worth a look at least. His versatility is useful in a squad perpective too. He can play across the midfield, has played both full back roles and in my opinion he has to look of a decent makeshift CB.
I'm not saying he should be in the squad but I certainly wouldn't rule him out on the basis of some performances for us a decade agoQuote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Would agree wíth that view. At one stage he seemed to get injured every time he was named in the squad. He didn't get much of a chance after that and then better alternatives like Kinsella and Holland came along. He might suite Traps system and at least he is getting regular football unlike Whelan. He could be used as a stop gap when we wait for the younger fellas to develop.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
The way I look at it is if we are looking for a defensively solid CMF we can choose 2 from Whelan, Garvan, Delap, Carsley, McCann, O'Toole, Gibson and even O'Shea or Miller. All these players have their limitations and no two are heads and shoulders abover the rest. It's just up to Trap to pick two he feels can play well together and that are on form. Apart from playing two of the U-21 guys or Miller I wouldn't have any complaints about who he chooses.
Just to add another option. Obrien at Bolton. Has played most of the games in midfield for bolton this season.
also james mccarthy who he said he would call up for the poland tie (although i'm not sure that he will)
Another goal from a Delap throw yesterday :)
Captured here:-Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=rUO5jBOcVTc
Guesss who did it AGAIN, and AGAIN with Ricardo Fuller
In fairness Shawcross flicked on for Olofinjana for the 2nd goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
Anybody found Ricardo's Irish grandmother yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
I meant he did it again, and this again it was with Fuller (like at the midweek)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambling Along
It wouldn't matter anyway, he's played many many times for Jamaica, scored against Mexico in a huge WCQ a month ago as well :)Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Delap's ability to throw long ball would be largely ineffective for Ireland since the 2 Irish strikers are very small. Also, there is no way that Delap would get on down the wings so he would have to play as one of the 2 holding midfielders.
I think its about time that Trap recognised the long range and aerial ability of Darly Murphy.
On the long throw thing there is nothing stopping other players developing this technique, I guess its important to be tall have strong arms. :D
Who the bloody hell is Darly Murphy, Daryl's sister? ;)
We would have been world champions if Jack Charlton had the services of Rory Delaps throw ins.Niall Quin and Tony Cascarino and our central defenders from those days would have had a field day.
Mind you after a while the novelty of watching it might wear a bit thin.
Delap should definately get called up for the Poland game...
Maybe shouldn't start, but I would definately consider him for the Italy away game. The long throw-ins would definately be a big threat against them.
He's actually a decent enough "holding" midfielder in his own right.
Mick McCarthy had a mean throw on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Just ask Ronnie Whelan!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
"A goal to grace any footballing occasion"Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I can see it now - "Delap with what is maybe Ireland's last chance, here comes the throw... Folan gets to it and he's done it! Would you believe it? The two substitutes combine to put Ireland in front!"
...and Ireland beat georgia 1 - 0 at home....
...i'd take it!Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
If anyone else had as many assists as he does in the Premier League, he'd be a shoe-in. Must, must be in the squad for Poland.
Ironically enough, I think he deserves his place more on merit as a player than as a throw-in specialist.
There's no way Whelan should be ahead of him in the pecking order for us as a holding midfielder, but as a throw-in specialist Delap will be almost worthless with our group of midgets.
I wouldn’t exactly call O' Shea, Dunne, Doyle, Stephen Reid or even Kevin Kilbane midgets. All are good headers of the ball and Delap would certainly be an asset to the Irish team.
Stephen Reid is a non-factor for this season, and in any event is only 5'11- I don't recall him dominating in the air in an offensive capacity at any point.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarBeag
Doyle, while he has a good leap, is only 5'11.
Kilbane, Dunne, and O'Shea will not be brought up for each throw.
An aggressive manager might send up to two of them from the back, but then say if Kilbane and Dunne go up, and O'Shea stays back, we've got:
Doyle, 5'11
Kilbane, 6'0
O'Shea, 6'3
A lot of sides in Europe now have an average height of about 5'11 or 6'0, whereas our tallest players are around that height.
If you wish to ignore that reality, so be it, but Delap will not give us a significant advantage unless we play with more tall and athletic players (I am not necessarily advocating this strategy).
We simply do not have the type of players who can capitalize from this sort of attack. Beyond that, he's a fairly limited player.
I don't think height matters so much with a throw as it is different from a corner. Rory can virtually drop the ball on someones head so a tall defender cant block it as much as a corner. I think he is well worth a call up then you can try things out in training and see how effective it it.
If you can drop the ball 6 yards in front of goal conistantly it will cause problems, there are two driections the ball can go in, forwards or backwards.
Forwards often means a goal.