good link manQuote:
Originally Posted by Boo_Boy
that defending was a joke - so frustrating knowing the quality in cork side. the finns prob thought cork are **** after that, walked through them.
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good link manQuote:
Originally Posted by Boo_Boy
that defending was a joke - so frustrating knowing the quality in cork side. the finns prob thought cork are **** after that, walked through them.
Pats highlights are here
http://stpatsfc.com/tv/highlights.php?id=112
"You give away a soft goal early on and you have a mountain to climb. We knew it would be difficult coming out here because we didn’t do the job properly in Turner’s Cross,” admitted Matthews.
“We set out to keep it tight with a view to springing John O’Flynn or Denis Behan on them, but that did not work. We did not play. Overall the performance was disappointing.”
i mean did he think he was playing against real madrid or milan or someone ? spring o'flynn or behan ??? i dont know
Spring Behan? LOVFL
Seriously, if I was a centre half and starting to tire and Cork brought on that fat waster I'd busrt out laughing
He's still down in Galway, editing DVD's for the AIPL application whilst eating a copy of Tony Cousins severance packageQuote:
Originally Posted by Terry
Further proof that changing formation to 451 in Europe does not work. Fair enough if you are playing big side but not in the early rounds. Fenlon played it in Riga, Doolin at home to Talinn & now Matthews.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duggie
ya but they didnt get battered 4-0Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
uefa draw starts in a minute - is there a streaming link or is it pay-per-view?
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/video/...l-rd-draw.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by CuanaD
Free streaming
so Dodge if they got past the 2nd round who could they meet?
Is it just meet or over the last few years has the 2nd round have teams more difficult to beat than before...so as the EL teams have progessed so have the competition more even more.
this is there only chance now against elfsborg
couldnt have gotten it better in fairness.
elfsborg - 50/50 chance i would reckon
good draw
Best possible draw for Pats. Weakest of the seeded teams and playing away first.
Real prospect of going through here.
I'm nowhere near as confident as you lot
Noticed this in the Pat's programme last night: 'Remember - while it's nice to progress in Europe, it would be unrealistic to think that we will ever go far in tournaments that are designed to showcase - and even swell the coffers of - apparently bigger clubs'.
Rather defeatist attitude worthy of Alan Mathews. Surely Pat's should be getting the fans fired up for the UEFA Cup? (And why the use of the word 'apparently'?)
Hope they fo well against Elfsborg.
well if you're not, i'm not. But I meant in terms of the draw,couldn't have got it better, plus away draw first, they know exactly what they need to do, I think away leg first draws suit EL teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Who could they meet in the third round if they got through?
Elfsborg are nothing to fear ;) although they are favourities to win the tie. Just get a bit of practice on a plastic pitch before the away leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
if they get through -its the first round proper! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
nobodies like AC milan, valencia and SevillaQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
well it gives pats the best oppurtunity of going through put it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
its up to them to give it a good go. capable of doing that i believe with fahey a big influence.
is it possble to meet anyone in the 3rd round/1st round proper?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Feck sure how is a team expected to get to the group stages so. PSG were prolly one of the weaker sides the time Derry got them.
pffffftttt piece of pieQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
just remember Cirk City beat sweedish opposition at this stage of the competion a few seasons back to play Slavia Prague in the first round propper of the uefa cup..
.. Belive
Cork City have beatem Malmo and Djurgardens and Derry knocked out IFK so nothing to fear what so ever.
Agreed. Half way through their season and they've conceded five goals. Tough tough game (and not a big draw either). Still the best tie out of the five. A draw at home is probably the best to be hoped for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Edit - forgot they're the side Bohs "should" have faced in the Totototo final. Adds a bit of interest.
they have got their comeuppance at long last.. now its cork city turn!the baton has bein passed on from us..:)Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Queen of the South were the ideal draw but they ended up in a different section. Elfsborg will be favourites and will be very tough however Pats have a good chance..
Remember there's an inverse experience curve operating in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Those who have feck all experience of European football know the most simply by looking at statistically insignificant datapoints in a 5 year rolling average coefficient....
Can anyone post up his awful record here. The drubbing by that Welsh side was the worst everQuote:
Originally Posted by adamcarr
Good Draw for Pat's. 50-50 game can go anyway. Progression is better at this stage than a glamour tie.
Someone posted that an away tie first would be better but I'd tend to disagree. Would cork of got a decent home gate if they got hammered in finland in the first leg? I don't think they would.
It was I, I didnt mean it in terms of gate receipts, I meant it in terms of, each team knows exactly what htey need in the second leg, and each team therefore at home in the first leg may be a little more complacent as they know they have a second leg no matter what. Irish teams that can go all out in the first leg away and try and secure a draw, have their destiny in their own hands when they return home. Isn't it better to have that at home in the second leg, than away in the second leg? Home advantage and all that. We have seen too many EL teams battle out scoreless draws in the frst leg at home, only to be convincingly beaten in the second. The game that best suits my example is shels away(against split) where they knew exactly what they had to do at home and did it. Look at Derry away against PSG etc(and at home etc). I'd like to see the full stats actually, either way, certainly against bigger teams it seemed to help to have the first leg away from home.
I posted that its easier to progress being drawn away first.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
Yes, I agree. The first 45 minutes of the tie usually involves the teams getting to know each other and each team being cautious. The 2nd leg is normally more open so its important to have home advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Losing to a part-time, out of season team is far worse than losing to a full-time, mid-season team. Add to that, Cork were effectively trailing from the first leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Cork's result was bad but it was not worse than Longford's 5-1.
The common link is that tit of a manager that you sent down here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Co-efficiently speaking at least Longford won the home leg...Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
i dont know - its only easier if u do well in the first leg. personally i dont think it matters, the tie is over two legs anyway so if u do your stuff in both games the result will take care of itself IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
Can anybody confirm that Haka are fulltime. Somebody told me the other day that they're not?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Nail on head. Fully expected Cork to lose by a goal or two. As it was it's actually an embarrassing result.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
id say they are, prob the same as over here with some full time and some part time. but id imagine haka are.Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid