It was Bord Gais's sponsorship which started my solvent abuse problem.
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It was Bord Gais's sponsorship which started my solvent abuse problem.
BTW interesting titbit
Last ever winner of Opel LOI - Pats
Lat ever winner of Bord Gais LOI - Pats
Last ever winner of harp LOI - Pats
Another reason to want this year to be the least year of the eircom deal
Its not really that it will cause problems like alcohol abuse, living in Ireland will do that anyway but when you go into schools to sell the league, I dont think the parents or the teachers would be too happy with you going in selling the Smirnoff League or the Budweiser league.
It'd just be another excuse to add to the list - didn't stop them allowing the GAA in when hurling's main sponsor was Guinness, but you can bet it'd be another reason for the boards of management of many biggotted schools to block football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
No one calls the Hurling Championship 'The Guinnes Championship' though, whereas a very large proportion of LOI fans call the league the Eircom league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
I'd much prefer if the sponsors weren't an alcohol company.
Saying that City are sponsored by Beamish, but the logo isnt on the Kids jerseys.
It depends how it's marketed really.
I agree maybe we should go with a drinks company, if marketed correctly we could claim we are combating the binge drinking culture that exists in this country by exposing our kids to alcohol younger. It is just a thought at this stage but maybe the FAI and drinks companies and schools could maybe look into. In France kids often drink wine with a meal before they are 16 ! wish i was French when i was 16 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
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Originally Posted by Magicme
your foot.ie signature is................................................ ..................
Drink all your beer, there are sober kids in India.
Caught out!!!!!!
So that Pats can change their nickname to the 'Kiss Of Death'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Thinking of renaming this thread - "LOI supporters over react again".
It is obvious that eircom would assess their sponsorship as time for renewal comes around. It is also obvious that the FAI will test the waters for potential replacements & this won't be don't in public glare. Even if eircom decide not to renew this is not automatically a black mark against the league.
:rolleyes:
Up on RTE now, although the FAI just released a statement that "We are currently in discussions with eircom on all aspects of sponsorship. The talks are at an advanced stage and we won’t be commenting any further until they have concluded"
sign of the times. no interest for the league is just the sad truth. feel sorry for die hard fans nd some quality players but the league is dying. FAST
And I mean REALLY fast!Quote:
Originally Posted by ronburgundy
Does anybody think that trying to get a community spirit like the gaa and have a club representing each county might be the only way?
Either that or all the players and officials should wear Sex Panther :)
Definitely. Team names like Kildare County or Dublin City will see millions flock to our league.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronburgundy
Oh, wait...
On Six One now that they want to pull out of the league only. Sligo's chairman interviewed about it.
Must be something in it anyway.
Sex panther. Works 60% of the time, every time. And i was thinking more along the lines of real mayo or sporting carlow
On 6.1 now - Tony O'Donoghue presenting as unmitigated bad news and linking it with the precarious position at Sligo Rovers......
[edit] Should have known Stu would beat me...
Oh, and its to be followed by a report on vicious racist abuse against a 14 yo by the followers of our fine national games
Standard drivel anyway. Sligo are top half yet somehow have come out saying they'll go out of business next month, without any sort of mention that the idiots running the club may be someway responsible. Also no mention that maybe another sponsor may come along, like happened every other time a sponsor pulled out.
Does anyone know exactly what the eircom deal is worth to the league (and the individual clubs, more importantly)?
why do RTE always jump on board with negative news highlighting the eircom sponsorship and adding to it with sligo,galway and waterford financial trouble ---the gave f*** all coverage to Drogs great win
I cannot believe how this thread unfolded ..... Chicken Licken if i ever saw it. I would have thought that most LOI fans would know better at this stage.
There is no way eircom could pull out of a contract straight away, unless one of the parties had breached it.
The media RTE and Breaking News have [edited text] reported on this issue in a manner which is alarmist in the extreme, and they have continued to report upon it while they [edited text]knew it was misleading.
Their behaviour can only be described as reckless and irresponsible.
I have no doubt that there is a clause in the contract that will allow for a window where the FAI can look at other potential sponsors while eircom would be given the option of something similar to first refusal.
At no time did either party deny that the sponsorship was being revoked.
It is standard practice that both parties would discuss the contract given the time frame and neither party suggested that that was not happening.
On Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:39 RTE reported this ...
This is a statement as if fact ...... They are saying that it is ending, have they been told otherwise?Quote:
RTÉ Sport has learned that eircom will end their sponsorship of the Irish domestic league at the end of the current season.
They contrived and manufactured the story initially when there was nothing to suggest this was no more than standard practice and no where near the bad news story they would have us believe. How can they continue to do so?
This is clear, if the contract is for a fixed term, and this term is due to end then this is not something that you can be alarmist about. Its something that is inevitable, unless someone can stop time.Quote:
Both deals are due to expire this year
They are stating this as fact ..... againQuote:
the company expected to maintain their relationship with the international side but end that with the domestic game
The FAI have said ....
So its not the FAI that are supporting RTEs claims, is it eircom?Quote:
We are currently in discussions with eircom on all aspects of sponsorship. The talks are at an advanced stage and we won't be commenting any further until they have concluded.
Or is this just another typical RTE stunt again? Is this what we are paying out license fee for? Tabloid gutter journalism? [edited text] RTE should be trying to maintain standards?
Can the FAI/eircom take action against them? I can see how they wouldn't have a case given the time frames involved here throughout the day.
While I agree there's a lot of alarmist comment, do you have any sort of back up at all that the RTÉ report is full of lies?
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Originally Posted by sonofstan
Yep. We were all there. Disguised as 14 year old girls.:rolleyes:
That's as alarmist a comment as I've read on this thread to be fair, they're hardly reporting that Sellafield has gone into meltdown and law and order has broken down for our remaining few minutesQuote:
Originally Posted by A face
Can't see any reason why RTE would be making this up ....Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Here it is for ya ....Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Do they have anything to suggest that anything out of the ordinary was happening?
Can they tell us that there was anything other than standard practice was being adhered to?
Can they tell us if either party were not fulfilling their contractual obligations?
Was there any breach of contract? was there any arbitration?
Given all the other sponsorship deal across all the other codes, can they give us grounds as to why they singled out this particular deal and reported on it as if things had soured, and continued to report on it when told it was not the case.
If they ran with the story initially, would it not be up to them to support their reasons for being so alarmist. How exactly does this deal differ from any other deal that is due to expire?
Why is it a bad news story if both parties were discussing the sponsorship and agree to leave it run its course, leaving the FAI available to find an improved sponsor.
My problem with this in a nutshell, NOTHING in this story so far suggests it is bad for the league, so why is it being reported as such.
Do they have any sort of back up that the report is true?? They said in the report that the FAI & eircom are refusing to comment. So who told them???Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Unless there was a certain Monday night show up for the chop......:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofstan
I'm trusting that they're not making stuff up, which I admit is a bit of a leap of faith when it comes to journalists. But they clearly have some source, whereas A Face is just making stuff up.
The Lansdowne Naming rights are being negotiated in the near future.
The most likely outcome is that whoever gets them may well want to sponsor bothe the national soccer and rugby teams.
Eircom, or any other major company, are unlikely to enter into a new sponsorhip agreement until the naming rights have been sorted. In fairness if O2 get the naming rights like at the Point, do you see Eircom sponsoring the soccer team, at the home of a potential major competitor???
The most likely sequence of events is
Naming Rights for Stadium Finalised.
This company to sponsor both IRFU and FAI or the deal being subject to either or both organisations agreeing new sponsorhios with non conflicting partners.
If Eircom are still on board as FAI main sponsors they will sponsor the LOI and if not the new major FAI sponsor will most likely be the LOI sponsor as well.
So IMO it's a load of bull**** from tabloid jounalists who know f*** all.
What am i making up?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
What part of this story anywhere suggests that this was a bad news item, that it was bad for the leagues interests?
- I'm not saying fans thinking the sky is falling down, they dont count
- I'm not saying the alarmist 'we'll sell a few more papers' attitude of the media
- I'm not saying the 'no more comment' rebutal to the media when the FAI already said they were both in talks as you would expect
I'm saying the actual story itself as we can see it now.
What part is bad?
This, for example -
- is an allegation you've completely failed to back up. Ditto -Quote:
The media RTE and Breaking News have fabricated a story of lies and deceit
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They contrived and manufactured the story
All this makes you as bad as you're making RTÉ out to be, to be honest.Quote:
they are lying
Thats my point exactly. They made this story up, a load of old cobblers and they have been found out. They must of known from the start that it wouldn't hold much water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenforever
I dont know who was huddled around the table saying "right folks, a bit of straw clutching here for a story" but they had very little to work with first day. I'd say they are lovin' it that it actually got this far.
You keep saying that. Do you have any proof to offer? If not, you're as bad as you're making RTÉ out to be, and you're the biggest over-reactionary on the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Come on Stu, do you not think its sad that the National Broadcaster has to crutch up a story which is completely contrived and manufactured with a sob story from Sligo Rovers chairman when its completely two separate issues :eek: For gods sake, they are a communications company, i'm just some guy from the internetQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Does the Rovers Chairman get fined now for this? Talking about something he is not even involved in?
You've just called them liars again without so much as a shred of proof. Do you not see the irony in that?
I dont have proof that they made it up, because its not there, they are the only ones to come up with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I look at that facts, i see there is nothing out of the ordinary and no cause for alarm ..... i think its inexplicable that they get 27 for 2 + 2
I do not except that i'm as bad as RTE here because ..... i dont take vast amounts of money from licence fee payers to report cobblers back to the people i take the money from.
I am looking at the way they have handled this story and i have made a call on it ..... i'm saying that its pathetic and sad state of affairs if the National Broadcaster have to stoop this low to get a news story
Are there not countless other ways they could have reported the factual content of this story and not in a misleading and contrived manner.
No they didn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by A face
Has it been denied?Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
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Originally Posted by A face
.,,.but you've called them liars all the same without knowing the source or its' veracity
I sincerely doubt that attitude pervails in editorial terms at the national broadcaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
TV3 lead with it too, but you didn't castigate them.
Relax and chillout, it must be the oxgygen debt up on the high horsey :cool:
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
You are trusting them that they are not making it up ..... I AM NOT. I have seen it countless times before and i will put money down on it that it wont be the last time we see it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Stu, they got the whole day out of it with their alarmist drivel, there was five pages of it on here before i commented. I dont have a shread of evidence that they have lied except from the facts, the facts that they didn't report on.
I personally would love to see how they came to the conclusion, that this was bad for the league. Who made this decision? How did they come to this conclusion and report on it as if it were fact.
I see the irony Stu .... and two wrongs dont make a right, i hear ya but are you not tired of this? Why do they always go to make bad news out of something when there is nothing there. Why does the league always suffer?
Have you read soccerc's post at all? Or did that not fit in with your world view?