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15/05/2008, 1:15 PM
abbeyvale

seedorf out of dutch squad for euro 08......big loss for them
15/05/2008, 1:23 PM
Dirk Diggler

what are the odds for winning the competition? Also anyone have a list of odds to finish top scorer in the competition?
15/05/2008, 1:25 PM
lionelhutz

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

what are the odds for winning the competition? Also anyone have a list of odds to finish top scorer in the competition?

Go to world football forum. There's a full list of odds for winning the competition and top goalscorer on page four of the Euro 2008 thread there
15/05/2008, 3:37 PM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by BrassBalls

no one seems to be mentioning the russians could be dark horses, great coach and some gifted players that will shine on the big stage. just look at zenit st petersburg, personally though cant see beyond germany

Sticky group for the Russians mate. Spain Sweden and Euro Champs Greece. I don't see them getting out of that group to be honest. Spain and Greece for me there.
16/05/2008, 4:59 PM
Pike B

My tips for tournament.
Germany to win 5/1
Torres top scorer 14/1
Greece to win group D 4/1
Germany France final ???
17/05/2008, 8:17 PM
Ra�l Madrid

Spain named a very peculiar squad today. There are 5 uncapped players (Palop, Fernando Navarro, Ruben De la Red, Santi Cazorla and Sergio Garcia), and no room was found for the likes of Joaquin, Guti, Raul etc.

Obviously, some of these players have been out of the reckoning for a while, but it still looks like an unnecessarily weak selection from Aragones.

If Spain picked the right squad, and got a couple of breaks, it would take a pretty good team to beat them ...
17/05/2008, 8:25 PM
jmurphyc

Ruben De La Red and Sergio Garcia are meant to be excellent talents. However, it's odd that they picked so many inexperienced players and didn't include Bojan.

The Russians have got a decent side from what I've heard, but I read in World Soccer that they they feel the lack of a quality defensive midfielder could cost them. One of their best players (probably their best) Arshavin is suspended for the first two games as well. They play Sweden in the final group game.

I think France could do well, provided they play the right players. I don't really like Domenech as a coach at all, but they have some fantastic players and this could put them in contention. However, they seem to be sticking with the old guard which may cost them IMO.
17/05/2008, 8:58 PM
Ra�l Madrid

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Originally Posted by jmurphyc

Ruben De La Red and Sergio Garcia are meant to be excellent talents

Well, De la Red was farmed out by Real Madrid to Getafe this season, on the basis that he wouldn't be able to dislodge midfielders like Guti, who Aragones has never thought good enough to select in a squad ...

Sergio Garcia is basically a journeyman professional, not good enough to make it at Barca and basically drifting around the lower reaches of La Liga. He's had a good couple of months, but hasn't done that much for a Zaragoza team that might still be relegated tomorrow night

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Originally Posted by jmurphyc

However, it's odd that they picked so many inexperienced players and didn't include Bojan.

Bojan himself opted out of contention for a place in the squad. He had talks earlier this week and declared himself 'mentally and physically shattered' after a tough season.

It's ironic that Aragones would rather pick a 17-year-old who has basically done nothing yet in his career (Bojan) and then announces he is too tired to play ...

...whereas Raul, a 30-year-old legend and Spain's/the Champions League all-time top scorer who has captained his side to two La Liga titles in succession, is in great form (23 goals this season) and is desperate to play, gets ignored:confused:
17/05/2008, 9:23 PM
see's it

cant believe Raul isnt in the squad he has just had his best season in years
17/05/2008, 10:07 PM
Blue-Army

I think Germany will win it.....and I think Russia could cause an upset or two...
19/05/2008, 7:10 AM
Pike B

Trezeguet out of France squad, as well Clichy Sagna. Domenech has some options. France to make final for me. Pipped by Ze Germans.
19/05/2008, 8:19 AM
pearse4t3

I reckon the dutch have a great chance of winning the Euros, Seedorf isnt as big a loss as it would have been a few years ago, creates a bit to much hassle then his worth imo.
19/05/2008, 8:26 AM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by pearse4t3

I reckon the dutch have a great chance of winning the Euros, Seedorf isnt as big a loss as it would have been a few years ago, creates a bit to much hassle then his worth imo.

Have to disagree. I was never Seedorf's biggest fan, but you have to respect the man's record. And his form as he has got older is superb. I think in a young Dutch side he would have been a big plus. But I do think Holland will get to quarters, where they will lose to Spain.
19/05/2008, 9:18 AM
pearse4t3

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Originally Posted by Pike B

Have to disagree. I was never Seedorf's biggest fan, but you have to respect the man's record. And his form as he has got older is superb. I think in a young Dutch side he would have been a big plus. But I do think Holland will get to quarters, where they will lose to Spain.

Yeah fair enough,but i dont think he has the right mentality to help those younger players.
I think that Spains main problem is there manager, there is absolutely no doubt that Spain have the players,but Aragones is always prone to making bad decisions,either tactical or team selection.
19/05/2008, 10:13 AM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by pearse4t3

Yeah fair enough,but i dont think he has the right mentality to help those younger players.
I think that Spains main problem is there manager, there is absolutely no doubt that Spain have the players,but Aragones is always prone to making bad decisions,either tactical or team selection.

I hear you there. Arragones is a dinosaur and a racist. Only in Spain could a man like that prosper. But they are so strong now, I can't see even him stopping them reaching the semi. Where France will break their hearts yet again.
20/05/2008, 8:46 AM
Pike B

Swiss full back Philipp Degen is to sign for Liverpool after Euro 2008 tournament. He is currently at Borussia Dortmund.
22/05/2008, 11:07 AM
Pike B

Running a comp out here in work, and the general consensus seems to be Spain Portugal final.
22/05/2008, 9:50 PM
hoops12

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Originally Posted by Pike B

Running a comp out here in work, and the general consensus seems to be Spain Portugal final.

do,nt rule out the dutch,huntelaar and babel to shine,is van nistleroy fit and van persie fit,also i expect robben to have a huge tournament
22/05/2008, 10:06 PM
abbeyvale

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Originally Posted by hoops12

do,nt rule out the dutch,huntelaar and babel to shine,is van nistleroy fit and van persie fit,also i expect robben to have a huge tournament

Van Nistelrooy is fit, not sure about Van Persie though,

I agree, I think the Dutch will take some stopping, as well as the above names, you also have Drenthe, Schneider, Van Der Vaart, all playing well this season.
23/05/2008, 7:42 AM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by abbeyvale

Van Nistelrooy is fit, not sure about Van Persie though,

I agree, I think the Dutch will take some stopping, as well as the above names, you also have Drenthe, Schneider, Van Der Vaart, all playing well this season.

Drenthe?????? Hasn't got a sniff with Real this season. Didn't make the squad.

I do think that they will get out of the group along with France. But I see them meeting Spain in quarter final's and don't give them much hope there.
23/05/2008, 7:45 AM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by hoops12

do,nt rule out the dutch,huntelaar and babel to shine,is van nistleroy fit and van persie fit,also i expect robben to have a huge tournament

Huntelaar and Babel won't be starting. The Dutch starting line up is 4-3-3 with a front three of Van Der Vaart or Sneijder (Right), Robben (Left), with Van Nistelrooy through the middle. Van Persie, Babel and Huntelaar will be used as impact subs if and when their needed.
23/05/2008, 8:19 AM
lifegoeson

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Originally Posted by Pike B

I do think that they will get out of the group along with France. But I see them meeting Spain in quarter final's and don't give them much hope there.

think spain might be the ones this time round ...
23/05/2008, 9:11 AM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by starman

think spain might be the ones this time round ...

I'm hearing a lot of that. I personally would love to see them win it. They are probably the best Country to never win the World Cup. And the have only won one European championship.
24/05/2008, 5:39 PM
Fireball

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Originally Posted by Pike B

They (Spain) are probably the best Country to never win the World Cup.

I'd say Holland is myself.
24/05/2008, 7:44 PM
Ra�l Madrid

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Originally Posted by Fireball

I'd say Holland is myself.

Yes, in the sense of the Total Football Dutch sides of the 1970s

No, in the sense that Spain consistently produce very good teams (if not the occasionally superb sides like Hungary in 1954, or the Dutch sides in the 1970s)
26/05/2008, 3:28 PM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by Ra�l Madrid

Yes, in the sense of the Total Football Dutch sides of the 1970s

No, in the sense that Spain consistently produce very good teams (if not the occasionally superb sides like Hungary in 1954, or the Dutch sides in the 1970s)

Yep. Agree with that.
26/05/2008, 9:13 PM
Pike B

Henrik Larsson is in Swedish squad after coming out of retirement. That'll give them a major boost.
27/05/2008, 7:42 AM
abbeyvale

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Originally Posted by Pike B

I'm hearing a lot of that. I personally would love to see them win it. They are probably the best Country to never win the World Cup. And the have only won one European championship.

I wonder why??? wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that most of Liverpool's employees are Spanish would it!!!!!!!
27/05/2008, 4:17 PM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by abbeyvale

I wonder why??? wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that most of Liverpool's employees are Spanish would it!!!!!!!

Pardon? Ehh, no abble le Englise amigo, ayyieeee.:D
28/05/2008, 7:37 AM
hoops12

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Originally Posted by Pike B

Pardon? Ehh, no abble le Englise amigo, ayyieeee.:D

ups must be really quiet,have you nout else to do but doss in the internet room
28/05/2008, 3:07 PM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by hoops12

ups must be really quiet,have you nout else to do but doss in the internet room

I prefer to call it, recreational mini breaks. Doss is such a vulgar word, don't you think!! ;)
30/05/2008, 4:47 PM
Pike B

Nicked this off the Euro thread in World Football. Try it it's great!!

[COLOR=#005600]http://www.the-onion-bag.com/euro2008/100yards.php[/COLOR]

Greece winner for me!!!
31/05/2008, 3:40 PM
pearse4t3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pike B

Nicked this off the Euro thread in World Football. Try it it's great!!

[COLOR=#005600]http://www.the-onion-bag.com/euro2008/100yards.php[/COLOR]

Greece winner for me!!!

Romania for me...
31/05/2008, 5:48 PM
hoops12

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Originally Posted by pearse4t3

Romania for me...

just heard ryan babel ruled out fot the dutch he tore ankle ligaments
02/06/2008, 7:47 AM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by hoops12

just heard ryan babel ruled out fot the dutch he tore ankle ligaments

Ya heard that. Very unfortunate, but he will be fit for Liverpool at start of season so not all bad! :D
02/06/2008, 5:14 PM
oscar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pike B

Nicked this off the Euro thread in World Football. Try it it's great!!

[COLOR=#005600]http://www.the-onion-bag.com/euro2008/100yards.php[/COLOR]

Greece winner for me!!!

Czech Republic for me
02/06/2008, 7:15 PM
hoops12

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Originally Posted by oscar

Czech Republic for me

im sticking with the dutch,only thing i can see stopping them is their discipline
03/06/2008, 7:21 AM
Pike B

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoops12

im sticking with the dutch,only thing i can see stopping them is their discipline

[COLOR=#005600][COLOR=#005600]http://www.the-onion-bag.com/euro2008/100yards.php[/COLOR][/COLOR]
Click this link, and do the test. See who your winners are then!! Enjoy!! :D
03/06/2008, 3:55 PM
hoops12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pike B

[COLOR=#005600][COLOR=#005600]http://www.the-onion-bag.com/euro2008/100yards.php[/COLOR][/COLOR]
Click this link, and do the test. See who your winners are then!! Enjoy!! :D

you really are bored up there
03/06/2008, 6:49 PM
abbeyvale

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoops12

im sticking with the dutch,only thing i can see stopping them is their discipline

Cannavaro missing for the Italians is going to be a huge loss, specially considering Nesta isn't in the squad either.

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