Afraid you're wrong there.Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
Third term troubles maybe but definitely no second season syndrome.
Printable View
Afraid you're wrong there.Quote:
Originally Posted by thischarmingman
Third term troubles maybe but definitely no second season syndrome.
Apologies, my mistake!Quote:
Originally Posted by redtildead
Cobh to finish bottom, den Bray and den either galway or UCD!!
having seen the first few games i wanted to change my prediction.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
bray are absolute certs to go down,along with sligo & cobh in my opinion
So far we are looking better than, Bray, Cobh, Sligo and Galway, UCD look a pretty decent side in fairness and look to have added another few gems.
Long way to go and each game is massive for all teams in the bottom half.
In fairness Harps have had Cobh and UCD at home (which to their credit they won). They've had the easiest start of all those teams so maybe not that surprising that they have collected the most points so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy
Id go for Bray, UCD and Harps.
Bray to finish bottom.
UCD had Derry at home, Bray away (which they won) and then Harps away. Not a million times harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon 7
None of those games you would look at and expect UCD to win though.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Harps would have fancied their chances of taking 3 points from home games against Cobh and UCD. Which in fairness to them they did.
Of our next 9 games we have 6 of them away, I reckon we should have a better view of our chances by the time that sequence is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon 7
Bohs (A), Bray (A), Pats (H), Cork (A), Sligo (H), Drogs (A), Galway (A), Rovers (H), Cobh (A).
We were delighted with our first 3 games tbh as would UCD have been, Galway must have been pleased with Cobh early on, Cobh would have been pleased to get us in the first game (granted they would have prefered at home but if they had to pick a team) and then Galway at home, Bray would have pleased with getting UCD, and so on. Point is you take the points when available.
Bray and Harps were both predicted to be in the relegation battle along with UCD so in those circumstance's they need to be taking points off both of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon 7
Shhhhhh, let them keep thinking they're great;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon 7
Is there still a trapdoor in the First Division this season? Bottom team has to play best team from the A Championship if they are good enough? Or was it cancelled?
Should make the bottom of the league towards the end more interesting if there is.
10 Wins is our target to stay up = 30 points and say 4 draws = 34 points. I think that will do it this year with such a gap between the title chasing teams and the stay up chasing teams.
Harps have 2, not sure how many more we can get to be honest. We need to have 6 wins under by the time we get to half way which is optimistic. But Galway, Cobh, Bray and UCD are in the same boat.
ye've beaten ucd and cobh at home. big dealQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy
Lads how can ye put Sligo Rovers in your bottom 3 after 3 games?,we've played St.Pats,Drogs & Bohs,they are the 3 favourites for the title with the bookies ATM.
We've taken 1 point from the 3 games, that doesnt mean were relegation contenders!
Some people are looking at how many points we have and not who we have played:rolleyes:
Sorry can you speak up. You are so far behind us its quite hard to hear you. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by feo123
Whats it like being down there? You have Cobh, Bray and Galway to keep you company
Yeah but given that it's effectively a mini-league at the bottom to avoid relegation, make no mistake, they're vital wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by feo123
And who exactly have ye beaten?Quote:
Originally Posted by feo123
Ye done that yerselves by only getting 1 point :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Boo_Boy
Thats usually the way a league works,Quote:
Some people are looking at how many points we have and not who we have played:rolleyes:
I can see it now:
Sligo Rovers finish 10th in the LOI prem division but lets be fair, they had to play the likes of St.Pats, Bohs, Drogs, Derry, Cork, Cobh, Harps, Rovers, Galway, Bray and UCD 3 times this season, so relegation was inevitable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFingallian
It is still going ahead as far as I know. Aiming high in your first season then at Fingal? :p
:eek: I pray i'm not talking about it too much towards the end of the season!Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
Nah we got three or four clubs' numbers for sure. I'll tell you more about my expectations after Waterford away on Friday. Make sure that Longford collapse was a first game disaster not to be repeated.
Another set of big games for the "bottom 6" this weekend,
Bray - Harps is important for both sides, Bray with only one point and no goals are under severe pressure if they lose this and surely Gormley's position will come under pressure too. Harps on the back of a fair ass kicking can't afford to lose against one the fellow relegation contenders, with Sheilds expected back I reckon Harps first away win (hopefully anyways).
Sligo - Cobh - Sligo fans claims of Harps easy start will most definitely eat their words if they fail to beat Cobh after failing to beat UCD in a dour game last week. Cobh are still winless but a draw against Cork could give them the boost needed to take a win, a defeat really will make it an up-hill battle to stay up, still sayng that I expect Cobh to come away with a narrow win and Davin O'Neill to get on the score-sheet.
Drogheda - Galway - With Cousins getting the boot and an expected back lash from Drog, its hard to see Galway getting anything from this game. Drogs to win by 2 or 3.
Cork - UCD - Another draw? UCD are a decent side but Cork will be going all out for a win to kick start their season, maybe Georgie moved into middle of the park? Matthews will change the team about for this iirc. I can't see UCD coming away with anything here tbh.
I think we're good enough to get a point in Cork, except I just can't see Cork drawing their first five games!
We are real relegation fodder now. Billy Clery was a brilliant player for us, but no experience managing at this level, and the longer we go without a manager, the more worried I'll be. Forget Friday night; we could give Cork a rght good fright Friday week; but it is the Sligo game, and the ones following (UCD, Bray, Harps in three of the following 4 games) we have to target more than ever
Certainly looks like it will be three from four now. Harps seem to be a sinking ship and if their injury list doesn't shorten soon they could end up lagigng behind. Shields, in particular, is a huge loss for them. I think they will be going back down.
After that I think there will be an almighty scrap between ourselves, Cobh and Galway. Galway have had a poor start but are only five points away from safety. If the appointment of Kenna turns out to be a success then their stronger side should just pip ourselves and Cobh in my estimation. They badly need to beat Harps next week though, which I fancy them to.
Only advantage we have (apart from a point) is that we've been competitive in all bar one game (v Drogheda), which is more than can be said for Galway, Harps and Cobh. We'll continue to pick up points on a regular basis; will those three?
Galway utd could have won evey game this season only for defenive **** ups and tonight we keept for first clean sheet so I can see us picking up points in most games but we need to win games against teams around us if we beat harps next friday we have a good chance of staying upQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Harps main problem at the minute is up front. With Parkhouse and Beckett out for most of the season so far we really struggle up front.
Last night we had chances to cross from very well worked areas but had no1 to aim for.
We competed well in midfield and surprisingly our defence was pretty good (apart from RB)
A win against Galway next week and we're back on track :cool:
Massive game in Terryland next week, a win for us and our season might take off. Still a long way to go but with three going down we need to start getting points on the board. next few weeks will tell a lot.
Coming up to half way point in the season now, transfer window to open on tuesday has many peoples thoughts changed with regards relegation.
With the personell we are getting rid of and the new players coming in im pretty confident of staying up tbh.
Our line up should be changed massively, we couldn't be as unfortunate with injuries the second half of the season as we were in the first.
UCD - Our main opposition imo, Mahon is proving once again what a quality manager he is and there is a good first 13/14 players, their main concern is how to cope if they get a few injuries/suspensions.
Galway - It will be interesting how they look squad wise after the window, Kenna to come out of retirement due to players moving on and no money to bring in replacements. Problems like that can cause upset on the piptch, it looks bleak for Galway at the minute.
Cobh - shipped 9 goals in their last 2 games and scored none, rumours of a few good signings but confidence is obviously low, Sligo at home this week will be another big test, another for the chop I think.
Rovers could be dragged into the bottom 5 if Scully keeps falling out with the players, a run of bad results again and they could be dragged in. Should be safe enough though but will not be near as comfortable as last season imo.
Galway and Cobh may as well pack their bags now from the look of things, after that it's toss a coin time between UCD and Harps, but I'll go with UCD staying up due to their experience of scrapping points from places they shouldn't be able to at all
Things could look very different after July I think. There have been persistent indications that all is not well at Sligo and they could emerge from the window a lot weaker. Both they and Shamrock Rovers should really be too good to be sucked into a relegation fight- but it could happen. Bray have done really well so far, but it's still possible that they could nosedive.
I'd agree that Galway United and Cobh Ramblers look pretty doomed, and in fairness on current form Harps are too. But as Sam mentions there will be major surgery in the window and I expect us to be a lot harder to beat in the later stages of the season. Even at that if UCD find someone to score a few goals for them we could still go down.
Drogs home tonight
Cork away next week
July 11 Home 7.45pm Sligo Rovers
July 18 Away 7.45pm Bray Wanderers
July 25 Home 7.45pm Derry City
Aug 1 Away 8pm Finn Harps
Aug 8 Home 7.45pm UCD
the 5 games after cork will define of season out of the 21points available we need to get a min of 12 points anything less we are gone
i still think 30-33 points will keep teams up this year
are you writing off the next 2 .
Bottom 6 at present:
Sligo - 20pts
Rovers - 18
Harps - 14
-----------------
UCD - 13
Cobh - 9
Galway - 7
Rovers are far from safe there imo, we will struggle to get any points on board from our next 4 games (Pats, Cork, Sligo and Drogs) so last nights win was massive. I predict 4 points from those games (at a push, realistically 1/2 points)
Rovers next 4:
Cobh, UCD, Pats, Sligo (maybe Bohs in there) - predict 6/7 points there
UCD:
Drogs, Rovers, Cobh, Bohs - possibily 4 points there.
Cobh:
Rovers, Pats, UCD, Bray - at most 1 point imo.
Galway:
Cork, Sligo, Bray, Derry - same as Cobh, 1 point at most.
Alot depends on transfer activities from next week on I supose.
Is Shaun Williams going back to Drogheda?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy
In spite of their woeful form Cobh and Galway are still only back to back wins from being right back in it for survival. Just remember Longford's second half of season form last year.
Yes he has been called backQuote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
[QUOTE=Sam_Heggy;970748]Bottom 6 at present:
Sligo - 20pts
Rovers - 18
Harps - 14
-----------------
UCD - 13
Cobh - 9
Galway - 7
amended table
Bohemians 15 36
St Patricks Athletic 16 34
Cork City 16 29
Derry City 16 29
Drogheda United 16 25
Sligo Rovers 16 23
Bray Wanderers 16 22
Shamrock Rovers 15 18
Finn Harps 16 14
U.C.D 16 13
Cobh Ramblers 16 9
Galway United 16 7
dont bring sligo into your relegation battle considering we have already played bohs , pats and an improving drogs in the second round of fixtures