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[SIZE=2]Is he? Don't see Doyle lighting up the football fields of Reading or any other field for that matter. Looks like he has being found out. None of them are any good Millar or Doyle C/L football or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nipper
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Doyle isn't world class by any means, but the whole Reading team are struggling this season, which for a striker means fewer chances. Hence his low scoring rate. He would be as well to move on this summer to a team like Villa or Everton.
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Originally Posted by Nipper
Good point man. Maybe its because of losing Sidwell to Chelski.Anyway i do hope that he starts to score a few goals again to get the auld confidence back. Clinty Morris is my man with Keano for the Ireland job though.
You know it makes sense.;)
Like the username by the way, big fan of GBV meself.
I am the definition of maturity, I just enjoy arguing my corner!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guidedbyvoices
I'm not bothered in the slightest about Liam Miller
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Originally Posted by livehead1
Again i agree and some very intelligent arguements you do have sir.;)
No way is Miller as good as Gamble/Healy/O'Callaghan:eek:
Keane's descision to transfer list Miller is a public humiliation and probably down to the fact that Miller has ignored other warnings. If Keane wanted him out he would have done so in Jan, still it just goes to show that by his actions Keane would never have tolerated his own behaviour as a player! Do as I say not as I do;)
Miller will stay on at Sunderland and play more games,Keane is just making everyone else aware of Millers attitude,same aul story some of these premiership footballers just dont appreciate what they have-I know Im late for work the odd time aswell
Just wondering, does anyone on this forum consider Liam Miller as a potential key player for us at any time in the future? I don't, I'd rather have Garvan or Whelan in the squad.
Transfer listed for being late for training more than 6 or 7 times. This just adds to my contempt for that little creep. I remember Clive Woodward saying that a squad dynamic depends on all the players being committed and positive. Just one bad attitude infects the squad like a termite. Miller's attitude typifies everything bad about the modern day (Irish) international footballer. He had/has all the talent in the world and just blew it by being a lazy git who thought it'd all come to him.
I remember Henrik Larsson saying Liam Miller can be as good as he wants to be. Well, it looks like Miller's not that bothered and I can't say I'm sorry for him.
PS: welcome back to football yap GBV. Where've you been?
Hey man. Been detained under the lunacy act of 1923 for a year or so but raring to go now. At one stage I thought Ireland won the world cup. Hows the craic with yourself horse? See we got closed down.
lads how can you be late to turn up for a 5 a side kickaround around 11ish every morning - lazy *****r?! If he was on the lash then fair enough but he couldn't have slept in :) !!!
Keane under pressure is going a bit mental himself, I'd double lock all the shotguns in the chairman's office
Is Quinny a gun fanatic?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Keane isn't endearing himself to the Sunderland fans with a decision like that. The fans up there love Miller and he has been one of there better players this year.
Ross Wallace was listed aswell and he is another the fans love and he has also played very well this year.
Wallace was their best player at the start of the season.
Miller during mid-season.
Daryl Murphy better watch himself.
Didn't Keane accuse him of being a (glory) hunting fanatic :DQuote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Miller is rubbish. He will be back in Cork soon. His career in England is near an end.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
Now here's a blast from the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guidedbyvoices
Are the voices still ringing loud inside yer head or is there some new fancy pharmaceutical at work?
Interesting article in today's Sunday Times (Irish edition) on the Liam Miller story. Can't find an internet link to it though.
The Irish edition has been dropped from the ST.
Now that you have brought it up Owls you are obliged to type out a concise summary :)
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Originally Posted by geysir
It's half a page :eek:
Bullet points:
SIGN OF BAD TIMES by Paul Rowan
* Keane met with Bryan Robson prior to his sacking. If club responds to adverse reaction of fans, "manager better off walking before being sacked." Pleased with support from Sunderland board.
*His handling of Miller situation a "serious error of judgement". The manner in which "he humiliated his player with flippant comments afterwards was deeply disappointing". Then mentions that Keane referred at a press conferenceto the number of times Miller has crashed or damaged his car.
* another former Man u player far more deserving of Keane's wrath than Miller.
* Keane's rant on MU TV about the younger players at Man U not putting in the effort mentioned Miller yet he signed him for Sunderland.
* Mentions the spat with the FAI over Miller.
* Players not let down by Miller's time keeping as Keane alleges but "are understood to be dismayed at his exclusion because the battle to avoid relegation has been made harder".
*Keane is "anxious to enhance his own self image while other far more grevious offences have gone unpunished".
*Keane "unwilling or incapable of engaging players on a personal level".
* Poor signings and mentions Halford (recommended by Coppell) now on loan at Charlton and how Keane then stormed in to Coppel's office and had to be evicted by a bouncer ((obviously sold a pup by Coppel :D)).
* Quinn and how he is appeasing the backers.
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Nothing hugely new there except for an Irish journalist attacking Keane. However, the usual unnamed sources stuff much loved by Dion Fanning of the Indo.
While I hate that I don't think a journalist can ever reveal their sources in an article as they wont get the quotes in future if they do. I think thats the way it works in the journalistic world.
Thanks for all that neatly presented hard work Owls.
Obviously if Miller is a crashing his car so many times on the way to training then he is going to be late, where is Roy's compassion :rolleyes:
Didn't Keane also say at the press conference "I am quite a nice guy", the hacks present must have been trying to suppress their laughter like the Roman soldiers in the Life of Brian.
With the players he has available would Milller be getting picked anyway?
I don't think so, not with the addition of Andy Reid anyway.
No unless Reid gets injured. Miller has done ok in spurts this season but he isn't consistent enough for the Premiership. He has been transfer listed but he can still play for Sunderland and if he impresses + good behaviour I'm sure Keane will take him off the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Well that's the crux of the matter, he is far from indispensible and he can be soldQuote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
off at a profit for someone just as good who actually turns up for training now and again,
I mean it is not as if he is unaware of Keans attitude to people
turning up on time and it makes Keane look like a hypocrite if he allows
Millar to consistantly turn up late when he has already reprimanded younger
players for doing the same.
There are people earning a fraction of what Millar earns who would have lost
their jobs by now for doing similar.
I assume he can afford a reliable car and an alarm clock.
F**k anti keane or what, jesus h christ remember how good he was for us ffs, even if he did walk out on the WC, he wanted to go all the way not just make up the numbers get ****ed and come back heros. How was Keane to know last year that Miller would turn into a lazy unreliable whure?? There are managers at local football level all across the island and beyond wouldn't stand for that ****e.
I dont agree with Keane re Miller.....but...the spate of unamed sources are more than likely Millers agent putting out some anti keane p.r.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
All I can say is take off your rose tinted glasses....the real Roy Keane is on view now, and it's not a nice view nor a successful one either now is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by antrimgreen
To manage you need to earn the players respect, and when you take to humiliating your palyers in public it shows you have lost the plot and don't have the repect of the players. Roy Keane to be gone before the end of this year and never to manage in the premiership again.. remember you read it here first :D
Greenforever, where in my post did i say he was a great manager? I am part of a small club who have a selection committee which i am on, if someone is repeatly late then they can **** off.
And as far as management success goes, Roy Keane if he retired today he still will have been more successful than the muppet of a manager the FAI appointted before the Trap.
I see Dunphy has once again attacked his former idol in the Star. "Humiliation of a good pro is one step too far....That was nothing short of disgraceful. Miller is a terrific professional who has performed admirably for Keane and Sunderland....doesn't deserve to have his name dragged through the mud by his manager".
There is nobody Dunphy wouldn't attack so long as he is kept in the public eye. He knows where his bread is buttered. Controversial attacks with no sense of loyalty to anyone except his pay cheque.
Dunphy is a clown. Miller is a sub standard premiership footballer. Whether or not Keane should have engaged in the public humiliation of the guy is debatable but obviously there were serious issues relating to his timekeeping. I have no time for Dunphy as he is as inconsistent as our beautiful weather. But sadly a majority hang on his every word.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Surely a "good pro" would be on time for work?Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
will sell a few extra papers today. I admire guys who have an opinion and are not afraid to express it (especially media figures) but only when it's backed up with reason and logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Dunphy is like a stopped clock.
and breathe......:)Quote:
Originally Posted by antrimgreen
What happened that Dunphy and Keane have such a big falling out?
Dunphy needs to get back in the spotlight. No Ireland at a Championship. No Irish manager to castigate.Quote:
Originally Posted by twoenz
No falling out. Just a commercial move by Dunphy.