Perhaps he doesn't feel the need to display humility to Don Givens. I know I wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
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Perhaps he doesn't feel the need to display humility to Don Givens. I know I wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
To be perfectly honest I couldn't care less if Stephan Ireland is unhappy or not.
Now if he ends up revising his decision and goes on to play well then I will respect him for that but I will never look at the player in the same way again
I'm not crediting Givens with Reid's success just that Reid at one point needed a boot in the a$$ and Givens was there to oblige :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I misread the title as Stephen Irelands nappy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
I thought his troubles had moved from his head southward!
that explains why i didnt get the call up, i forgot to ring givens!!
what a muppet
I rang him there a few minutes ago.
Not only am I a late addition to the Squad (I told the mad-as-batshlt caretaker that I'd bring my own gear, and that I thought he was dead right to sicken Clinton's hole by leaving him out when he's in flying form) but I have an Interview for the managers job next Monday.
Result.
I have to say I'm disappointed in the media for making this an issue. Givens said exactly the same stuff last time around. Why should his views change?
Givens has set out his stall on Ireland, correctly in my opinion. If we were playing Georgia in qulaification next week I'd like to think Givens, if he was still in charge, or somoene in the FAI, maybe even Dunne, would try and have a word with him. But it's 8 months to the first qualifier and we've yet to appoint a manager. Nothing has changed and nobody should have expected anything to have changed. Instead it's the only story about this squad. Ridiculous.
I agree it's a non-story, but in fairness, in Morrisons case, his profile has risen substantially since Staunton's last squad, and if Friendlies are to be for anything, they should be certainly in part to reward in-form players and to increase confidence within the team.
Givens has pretty much done neither so far, and his infamous bad attitude has carried over into a job none of us wanted him to have, meaning his grating personality, personal grudges, and his fractious relationship with the media & certain players has gone a great way to creating this story from nothing.
What i meant to say BV was that while Stephen Ireland is a non-story, the only story worth commenting on in this squad was really Morrison's omission.
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Duly noted. Apologies for misinterpreting.
Sorry, with so many threads seemingly coming to a "Don Givens hasn't a clue" conclusion right now, it's hard for me to keep track of which of his embarrassing pronouncements & actions goes where...
I admire Kerr for his underage achievements and while he would undoubtedly be a good amnager at that level, I think it would be a risk. There's nothing to say he would work in harmony with the new senior manager and considering he's recently relieved of the senior job himself, I'd see it as too much of a risk .Quote:
Originally Posted by Wangball
Now Steve Heighway is a different kettle of fish and if he was interested I'd snap him up in a heartbeat for the U21 gig.
Whether it be Don Givens, Don Quitoi or Donnie Darko is manager its forQuote:
Originally Posted by Bondvillain
S Ireland to show humility and that he is able to be a man to all of us and get on with it.
As for Givens , he will only be Caretaker for the Brazil game, its to the football fraternity of the country he needs to make things up to and to move on and play some games for ireland.
Whose going to accept Stephen Irelands FAI young player of the year award should he win it?
One of his grannies?
Just saw this on YBIG
http://www.setanta.com/en/Sport/News...nd-on-Ireland/
i think we need ireland back.
he is a good player and we have very very few of those.
oh and don givens is an utter gob****€
Interesting comments there. I agree with one or two of his comments re Givens. DG is caretaker manager so should have just gone on with the job and said nothing. I for one want Ireland back in this squad well in advance of the qualifiers and am pleased to hear SI appears to be of the same frame of mind. What happened, happened, all very stupid, but its done and dusted. New manager, new start no one wants to drag up whats happened the last two years or so. I look forward to him getting a few goals for us when we need them in the next campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
alot of people have said here that they want to hear ireland say he wants to play for the country well now he has, om glad he spoke with a bit of honesty said he knows he owes the fans, but more importantly said don givens is a gob****e, i read the article on the star plus a smaller article inside the pullout the reporter was saying we have to get rid of givens he dealt with the ireland situation terribly and theres another young lad with the 21s who is in the same boat as ireland
I'm still not convinced we need Ireland or that he's ahead of others like McGeady or Andy Reid. He's a talented boy who is improving but he plays in a very solid Man City team that can compete in their own right. Our team struggles to impose itself on games and hence Ireland's weaknesses can be shown up much more than at club level.
We have an adundance of lightweight creative types. If we play them all we'll be hammered every time.
I think Duff and Hunt should be our two wide men, interchanging if they like.
I don't trust Ireland as an orthodox central midfielder unless we're chasing a game and need to be adventurous.
Tinkering with shape and roles may make room for him but it's a tough one.
indeed but whatever about your feelings about him startin surely he has to be called up in the next squad with our new manager(hopefully)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
yes, agreed.
yeah I agree with you Stuttgart about Duff and Hunt starting. I know McGeady has his fans on here but I'd like to see him on the bench for the time being. Hunt is more than an impact player and is probably our most in form player alongside Robbie Keane. Ireland will have to wait his turn - a good goal scoring midfielder and pops up with vital goals but I've yet to see him grab a game by the scruff of the neck. He tends to drop out of gmes for 10/15 minutes at a time.
Interesting article, and I agree with some of the points Ireland makes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
But he should realise that he needs to make an effort to get into the squad. It's not like he was dropped because he was playing poorly. He was dropped because he said he didn't want to be there. That is apparently the status quo until he specifies otherwise.
Talking about your desire in a newspaper is one thing, but the thing for Steven Ireland to do would be to call Givens and say something along the lines of "I want you to know I'm available for selection. I'm hoping I'll get a chance to be involved with the squad for the Brazil game".
Given his apparent desire to play for Ireland, that wouldn't have been too difficult to do, even with Givens.
Possibly, but with Givens as manager he should have at least put him in the squad or given him a call instead of, as Stephen said, mouthing off.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Glad to hear he's willing to play and not discouraged by the whole thing. Now only hope to god Don doesn't appoint himself as manager.
I am a bit worried that Kevin Doyle isn't exactly setting the world alight at the moment. I hope he starts knocking a few goals in again shortly.
Agreed, i hate the way people dimiss Hunt as an impact player for ireland. He never got a good run of matches starting for Ireland. His performances for Reading should be enough to prove that given the chance he can be a real handful.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Nothing wrong with making an impact from the first minute!
Duff hasn't done anything yet to convince me that he can recapture anything resembling his best form so I wouldn't have him and Hunt as our wide men just for the sake of it.
Hunt and McGeady are similar in that both seem to offer us a better option when coming on later in the game so for me it's open to debate about what our best midfield line up would be. If only all 3 could consistently produce the goods for Ireland.
I am too but I'm nearly sure he's been played out the wing on occasion so maybe this has something to do with his lack of goals of late.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I actually think he comes across quite well in interviews and i think that isd a decent article from him. He will be back on the fold wehn crafty El Tel gets him back in the squad with a smile on his face.
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Originally Posted by OwlsFan
He has been played wide on the right at times this season by coppell though...
IT today Givens
'The manager dismissed the idea that the matter was a personal one. "It's not about Stephen and me, that's nonsense . . . if any other player in the squad had behaved the way he has then I'd have expected the same thing, that they get in touch to say they want to play again.
"I mean, what he's supposed to have said here is all in a newspaper and what am I supposed to do? Treat everything that appears in a paper as fact and act on it?
"The fact is that this is no big deal if he's sincere in what he's saying. If he wants to come back and play then there's an easy way to do it, just pick up the phone to me and he'd be in the squad tomorrow."
thats fair comment from Ireland. Ireland pulled out of the squad and said he did not want to be picked so its up to him to change that. Givens was a bit tactless in his comments on radio to muppet supreme on Newstalk but his anger on having to look and such an ugly ginger tosser probably made him take that anger out on Stephen IReland.
bit harsh neil......did he slag bohs or spurs or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
No I just think he is a muppet and a very bad journalist in the Cathal Devan, Dion Fanning end of journalism in that the journalist wants to be bigger than the story. Guys like Mc Donnell and Emmet Malone and Liam Mackey just keep their head down and are actually good journalists. His style on Newstalk is terrible. I know its an act but it is still a crap form of journalism in my view. The cynic. He is ginger and he is a tosser in my view.
Who are yiz talking about???
The ginger git on Off the Ball who asked Givens the questions in relation to Stephen Ireland.
Dude...Sorry.. I'm not being sarcy. It's radio. I dunno which one's Ginger!!! (I didn't hear the interview).. I listen to the show from time to time and they seem alright..
I think his name is Ken Early or something like that. He has a sarcy lanquid style to his rambling and nonsense.
Classic!Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee