Four new clubs in eircom League of Ireland

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20/12/2007, 3:58 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Dodge

maybe they're just sticking with "new" u20 league and waiting to see how the A league pans out? If it looks like it wouldn't be too expensive to operate in we might see more clubs added

Do we know if teams can do that? Is there a provision for new teams to enter whenever they want, or was this their only window of opportunity to join?
20/12/2007, 4:40 PM
passerrby

remember that old line from monthy pyton " hes making it up as he goes along"
20/12/2007, 5:53 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by jebus

For once I actually have a degree of sympathy for Galway United, ridiculous to have that many clubs from what traditionally isn't exactly a footballing hotbed.

Meh.

Really it's only what's been happening in Limerick since the year dot but on a much smaller scale.

Although in fairness there are probably far more players in Limerick :ball:
20/12/2007, 9:41 PM
Topman

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Originally Posted by historynut

On WIkipedia, Letterkenny Rovers were billed as very interested.
Interesting to note route to full league membership now available to Intermediate/Junior clubs who desire it.
To enter A league both Salthill Devon/Mervue Utd must desire eventualy to obtain full league membership (why enter if not the goal), if that happens - Terryland groundshare ?
Tullamore ex as stated old B division, and Leinster League, are they not now in the combined central league - anyone know their history ?
The Fingal club - have they not been set up from scratch for this set up ?
Was there not a club recently formed around Carlow especially for this league - what happens to them ?
Would imagine final hurdle must be minimum ground criteria (spectator facilities) for promotion to Division 1.
May shake some Div 1 clubs up, some grounds would be a shame to be lost to the league, a hurling smooth stoned city springs to mind. And I dare say some grounds would'nt be missed !
Was not a reason for Newcastlewest's withdraw was to up-grade stadium ?

www.sefc.ie we are slowly getting there and hopefully part of the U20s set up for the new season
21/12/2007, 6:47 AM
monutdfc

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Originally Posted by drummerboy

That was the case until recently. Now the team is called an Amateur International team and can include LSL, MSL, and USL players once they have not played EL football

Thanks drummerboy, I didn't know that. Sounds like a good idea.
21/12/2007, 8:33 AM
gufct

hey garry like the tracksuit.
21/12/2007, 9:32 AM
Topman

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Originally Posted by gufct

hey garry like the tracksuit.

Tom, i wanted our lads to wear the Superhoops but nobody would listen:D

QPR IN THE MONEY
21/12/2007, 9:38 AM
jebus

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Meh.

Really it's only what's been happening in Limerick since the year dot but on a much smaller scale.

Although in fairness there are probably far more players in Limerick :ball:

It's why I have a degree of sympathy, we know exactly what it's like to have the juniorballers cut the legs put from under you.

To level things out with my reputation here I'll add that it couldn't have happened to a nicer club :)
21/12/2007, 11:07 AM
London-Irish

Do any of these new clubs have spectator facilities like a grandstand or covered standing? In fact, how many current clubs below the League of Ireland have spectator facilities?
21/12/2007, 11:17 AM
GuisaSaigon

Spectator facilities at Mervue and Salthill's grounds are currently non existent.
21/12/2007, 3:14 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

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Originally Posted by drummerboy

That was the case until recently. Now the team is called an Amateur International team and can include LSL, MSL, and USL players once they have not played EL football

Thanks drummerboy, I didn't know that. Sounds like a good idea.

I wonder is it? If a player plays eL football, they're excluded from playing for their country. Does that discourage players from trying the eL? In particular, the lower, lesser-paying clubs would be hit.
21/12/2007, 5:17 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by GuisaSaigon

Spectator facilities at Mervue and Salthill's grounds are currently non existent.

They could probably just use Terryland??
21/12/2007, 5:53 PM
Gaillimh Al

Spectator facilities in a reserve division. I doubt they would have to be in place yet. Both clubs will probably now have plans to put them in, but hopefully they won't use Terryland as there are enough games played there already. Both Galway clubs are saying these teams will be an outlet for their underage development. Mervue have won 3 underage national titles in the last 5 years and their chairman said their application would not have happened if a Connacht Senior league existed. As for running costs in this new division, neither team is short of a few pound.
21/12/2007, 7:36 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I wonder is it? If a player plays eL football, they're excluded from playing for their country. Does that discourage players from trying the eL? In particular, the lower, lesser-paying clubs would be hit.

I know of plenty of amateur players, if the opportunity arose to play eL, they would turn it down as they wouldn't be able to line out for the international side again. Mikey Keogh of Killester United, top scorer of the FAI Cup 2006, recently returned from Glenavon and is now back with KUFC won't be able to play for Ireland Amateur's again!

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Originally Posted by Dodge

But they don't have to...

AFAIk AUL clubs only need access to changing rooms!
22/12/2007, 1:09 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

I know of plenty of amateur players, if the opportunity arose to play eL, they would turn it down as they wouldn't be able to line out for the international side again. Mikey Keogh of Killester United, top scorer of the FAI Cup 2006, recently returned from Glenavon and is now back with KUFC won't be able to play for Ireland Amateur's again!

So basically, there is one specific pointless rule making things more difficult for the eL?

Really does sum up football in this country.
22/12/2007, 2:40 AM
Bald Student

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

So basically, there is one specific pointless rule making things more difficult for the eL?

Really does sum up football in this country.

It's not pointless. If you play professionally you're not allowed to play for the amateur team. Otherwise there'd be no such thing as the amateur team.
22/12/2007, 7:50 AM
incident

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Originally Posted by Bald Student

It's not pointless. If you play professionally you're not allowed to play for the amateur team. Otherwise there'd be no such thing as the amateur team.

Although you could question the value of having an Amateur National Team to start with..

I'll admit I don't know much about the setup so could well be missing something important, but what purpose does the team serve exactly? It looks and sounds like a thinly masked excuse for junkets..
22/12/2007, 10:38 AM
geezer

galvanised support

the GUFC has been stung into action despite being undermined by buffoons at the fai that are only interested in grinding axes over old local political ****e at the expense of a strong regional effort. 250 season tickets excluding tiger (juvenile) tickets sold to date ranging from €250 to €1500 a pop. With 3 months to go to seasons start thats not bad. Also good to see lims fans out in shopping centres promoting their club
22/12/2007, 11:07 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Bald Student

It's not pointless. If you play professionally you're not allowed to play for the amateur team. Otherwise there'd be no such thing as the amateur team.

But why should playing professionally for, say, one season rule you out of the team forever, as dummerboy suggests?
22/12/2007, 11:30 AM
soccerc

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

But why should playing professionally for, say, one season rule you out of the team forever, as dummerboy suggests?

Simple, it's for players who have never been professional footballers, same as the restrictions at underage level.

The pros have the Senior, B, U23's and U21's.
22/12/2007, 11:41 AM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by geezer

Also good to see lims fans out in shopping centres promoting their club

What??

In Galway like??

This is all the promotional stuff going on that I am aware of.

Also, kind of hard for us to start flogging season tickets when we don't have any........
22/12/2007, 12:24 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by soccerc

Simple, it's for players who have never been professional footballers, same as the restrictions at underage level.

I understand that ;) - just saying it's possibly harmful to the league that a player playing in it for even one season could lose his chance of international football for the rest of his career.
23/12/2007, 9:25 AM
Poor Student

Irish Mail on Sunday says Fanad actually turned down an invitation to 'A' League.
23/12/2007, 12:14 PM
LeixlipRed

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

Irish Mail on Sunday says Fanad actually turned down an invitation to 'A' League.

Did they apply by accident? :confused: Or were they just invited without applying?
23/12/2007, 12:19 PM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by LeixlipRed

Did they apply by accident? :confused: Or were they just invited without applying?

The article seems to suggest they were invited without applying. It did say a few clubs dropped out after initially applying. It also said something about a couple of junior clubs in Dublin 'shaking their heads negatively' at the league or something along those lines. It didn't explain if they turned down an invite or have nothing to do with it and just generally disapprove.:confused:
25/12/2007, 8:47 AM
CollegeTillIDie

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

The article seems to suggest they were invited without applying. It did say a few clubs dropped out after initially applying. It also said something about a couple of junior clubs in Dublin 'shaking their heads negatively' at the league or something along those lines. It didn't explain if they turned down an invite or have nothing to do with it and just generally disapprove.:confused:

A lot of players in Junior football would be capable of the step up to League football. Cannot be arsed to travel hence they remain in the Junior ranks.
29/12/2007, 1:16 PM
galwayhoop

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Originally Posted by soccerc

Simple, it's for players who have never been professional footballers, same as the restrictions at underage level.

lads this rule changed some way recently.

johnny mernagh was in the irish amateur squad last season on a few occasions even though he had spells with both gufc and limerick.

he was in the paper after his first call up saying how he was surprised he was eligible after playing pro before.

don't know the exact rule on eligibility but if you only had a brief pro career (i.e. one season or so) then you can play.
29/12/2007, 6:23 PM
Den Perry

international...

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I wonder is it? If a player plays eL football, they're excluded from playing for their country. Does that discourage players from trying the eL? In particular, the lower, lesser-paying clubs would be hit.

is a player excluded from Amateur Int team if they've played EL? Wayne Fitzgerald was on the squad after he played for Waterford Utd...he currentlt plays or Carrick Utd
29/12/2007, 6:48 PM
onceahoop

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Originally Posted by Den Perry

is a player excluded from Amateur Int team if they've played EL? Wayne Fitzgerald was on the squad after he played for Waterford Utd...he currentlt plays or Carrick Utd

Presumably you can be regraded the same as going back from intermediate to junior. Also I presume you are only a professional as long as you are getting paid for playing.
24/01/2008, 3:02 PM
IJsbrandij

A Championship

OK so now I know more about A Championship. But already one team is now promoted to the Second League - Sporting Fingal.
24/01/2008, 3:09 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by IJsbrandij

OK so now I know more about A Championship. But already one team is now promoted to the Second League - Sporting Fingal.

Was that a question? :confused:

Yes, Sporting Fingal are replacing Kilkenny City in the League of Ireland First Division (the second tier of Irish senior football) and therefore will not take part in the 'A' Championship.
28/01/2008, 12:28 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Topman

www.sefc.ie we are slowly getting there and hopefully part of the U20s set up for the new season

South East FC.

Now - there's a name to set the pulses racing and the pride surging.

"C'mon the south-East....!!!" :D

Nice website though...
11/03/2008, 8:44 AM
cudsy1

from wikipedia:

" 'A' League Championship

The 'A' League Championship is a new league introduced in order to provide a link between non-league soccer in the and the eircom League. It gives clubs the opportunity to win promotion to the league for the first time. It has been decided that this championship will not kick off until June but
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a Shield competition, starting in March, will be put in place in order to give the 'A' League Championship participants a chance to prepare.

The league will contain reserve sides of the eircom League clubs also. Last December four new clubs were accepted for entry into the championship. These clubs are and both from from and newly formed club who have since been elevated to the First Divison."

- so, does anyone have an update on the situation here? this news is months old, and i cant find anything on the web about it... -

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