As someone said, if you laid the favourites since the start you'd make a nice profit. O'Leary (2.80), Jewell (2.00), Houllier (2.28), Venables (1.82)...
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As someone said, if you laid the favourites since the start you'd make a nice profit. O'Leary (2.80), Jewell (2.00), Houllier (2.28), Venables (1.82)...
Speaking of Giles being old school, I used to work in Irish Ferries and he drives a Rover that's as tatty as hell and about 10 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
Back to the manager I think short list for me at this stage would read:
Hodgson
Houllier
Jol
O'Leary
Venebals
Interview them all, it covers all the bases and preferably give it to Hodgson at this stage.
was that a typo, or a mis-spell, or just plain brilliance?Quote:
Venebals
Lads, lets be honest though in terms of football management what the hell does an interview do/find out about a person?
Do you like Spuds? What are the endearouing characteristics of a good football coach? At the end of the day a good manager might not be able to answer these, but yet they are still a good manager due to their record. I really cant see what the point of an interview is for a football manager. They are either good or not, nothing they say in an interview ( either way good or bad ) can change that....its not like a normal profession.
Whilst I mostly agree, it is important to have an interview with prospective candidates to see what direction they want to take the team in, such as what backroom staff he will bring in, his ideas in regards to coaching, tactics, what he will do to improve the underage setup and maybe the home league. However, it should only be used to give an idea of the what the candidate is about and should not be used to decide between the candidates, unless they were extremely similar candidates in regards to their managerial records and the FAI/selection committee was finding it difficult to choose between them.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I'd like to claim brilliance, but more a typo/mis-spell.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I think you have a fair point about formal interview too. The only reason to have them is to ensure some sort of understanding between the FAI and the manager. As with all interviews the persona in the interview room often won't translate into the real world.
At Hodgson's current odds of 18/1, Paddy Power only allow a maximum bet of €60, so I have thrown that on, for footballing and monetary reasons I want Hodgson to get the job.
Not really a gambler but am seriously considering putting a tenner on him at those prices. Then I'll have two reasons for wanting him to get the job.
Supposedly Stan wooed the interviewing committee before he was appointed.:D Rumour has it he brought out our old favouritesQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
''Im the Boss, the gaffer, the buck stops with me'':D
In fairness, how could they not give him the job!! He has such a way with words.:D
Actually the interview went like this.
John D "Stan what do you think you can bring to the job"
Stan: "You tell me"
Quality!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Again, back to my point, do you really care who is backroom staff is, his tactics ( you should know this already, coaching ( again should know this etc) and lets be honest what manager ( from outside Ireland ) is going to try and improve the league? All I as a fan, as I assume the FAI are ( because the income side affects their choice, or so it should ) too, I want the best man for the job based on his ability not on what he says or doesnt say in an interview. I mean the whole idea of an interview in normal circumstance is to get the person who answers the questions the best ( and has a personality ), if this were the case then how did staunton get it and how would other such managers do that have done well in the premier league or Europe?! They wouldn't probably!!! Only the more intelligent ones etc....Quote:
However, it should only be used to give an idea of the what the candidate is about and should not be used to decide between the candidates, unless they were extremely similar candidates in regards to their managerial records and the FAI/selection committee was finding it difficult to choose between them.
Quote:
Actually the interview went like this.
John D "Stan what do you think you can bring to the job"
Stan: "You tell me"
:D that is class. One of the best posts I have ever read. Not just cos of this, but it reminds me of trainspotting when spud puts the question back on the interviewers, and how I have often tried to bluff it when I dont know something. Brilliant neil. He probably did say it too. :)
I actually mostly agree with you. All I'm saying is that an informal interview should always take place. It doesn't necessarily have to mean anything in regards to getting the job. For example, the FAI might invite someone to an interview and say "look, we've chosen you, there's just a few things that need ironing out". That's not an interview per se, but it is an interview nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
In regards to the backroom staff the FAI may need to know so they can sort the budget for the new manager out (although it's highly unlikely that someone who wants an assisatant role for a country is going to be expensive). You can also never really know what a manager's coaching and tactical philosophy is until you meet him and have a chat with him about it. You can have an idea, but you won't know for certain.
If you want to get the rest on you can ring up and ask 1800 721 821Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlooooomp
For liability reasons they have limits on internet betting but if you call them they will generally give you a bigger stake.
I've backed him at 60/1 - though I may have already mentioned that in this thread! :)
Cheers for that piece of info.Quote:
Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
60/1, thats very sweet if it comes through. Can't really count on the FAI to do the sensible thing though.
he's come in to 14/1 on paddypower now
that'll be because of this thread
At the moment he is 20/1 at Ladbrokes if anybody fancies a punt.Quote:
Originally Posted by eekers
Hodgson was just on R5 live being asked what credentials the next England manager should have. He basically touted his own credentials, most notably experience, but I can't see England looking his way.
I doubt his name will even be mentioned if the FA create a shortlist of candidates. Haven't heard a mention of him in conjenction with the England job on any program or paper that I have looked at so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
He is 66/1 last time I looked.
Did he mention the Ireland Job?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Last mention on betting on Hodgson from me, best odds that I can find are Ladbrokes @ 20/1, have checked numerous other sites that will match you first bet (usually up €25, €50 or sometimes €100) on joining but most of them have no market on the next Irish manager, if they do then they odds are less than Ladbrokes.
i'd say roy hodgson was in london on his way to the world cup draw much like john delaney was in london on the way to the world cup draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
i'm sure he will be interviewed imformally at least and i'd be shocked if he didnt impress
Yeah, he said he was offered it and would sign in the morning. Sorry, don't know how I forgot to mention that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Maybe he said it under his breath or quickly or in Finnish!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
any truth in the rumour that he's currently learning irish for his first teamtalk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
i just found a load of roy hodgson 'talking about tactics' video's on uefa.com's training ground site
442
433
352
playing against 10 men
goal down 10 minutes left
goal down after 1st leg
goal up after 1st leg
i'd love to see stan doing this
playing against 10 men? u tell me
If the FAI ever listen to what the fans want....the fans want an approach made to Roy Hodgson, I would be delighted if he was given the job.
I'm totally sold on Hodgson, he knows the game and he'll know our players.
time to act i think
story linking hodgson to the vacant australian manger job
http://www.theage.com.au/news/soccer...753382162.html
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The Englishman narrowly failed to qualify for next year's European Championships with Finland and is understood to have made his interests in the Australian position clear.
There is an opportunity for the FAI to step in and try to attract Hodgson now. I got to say that Australia seems like a more attractive proposition, especially as they are in the Asian qualifiers. No more qualifying by playing a selection of menaingless games followed by all or nothing in a playoff.Quote:
Originally Posted by eekers
to be honest he hasnt said a great deal in the the last 2 videos there. He says the problems that arise for both teams, which are fairly obvious, especialy from a tactical point of view if you are playing a 4 - 5 - 1 or a 4 - 4 - 2, but he doesnt give any actual solution of how you could counteract this. Thats the real problem here, its obvious the lone striker is going to get isolated from midfield as the more attack minded midfielder has to get back and defend, its also obvious that the right and/or left wing ( depending on player sent off i spose ) has to double up and help the full back. These are all obvious things, but the solution that he never offered is how you can go about attacking and scoring when down to 10 men....
Given the tricky Eastern European nature of our group for the World Cup, how does Hodgson's record in those games make people feel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
i saw highlights of that Azerbaijan away game they lost and they were all over them and then let in a jammy last minute goal they werent outplayed or anything.
venables managed england 25 times
only 3 of those games were away
v ireland lost 0-1 (its up on the fa's website as that and im not gonna disagree with them)
v norway drew 0-0
v china won 3-0 (china were really awful in the 90s)
And all friendlies. Venables didn't have to take them through a Qualification campaign.
Bobby Robson is helping the FAI and the FA select new managers. This might work in our favour. Robson is known and respected around Europe. He could "sell" the Ireland job to those managers who won't get the England job. We can't pay the same money as England but if the FAI are offering a decent package then we might end up with a top European coach yet.
Hodgson has just said on skysports that he has had one particular offer that he is likley to take up. I hope it is us.
Ye just saw that.
He acknowledged that finland still want him but he is unlikely to continue as their manager because he has a few offers and he would like to take up one of them.
Fingers crossed. Although Australia have entered the race for him and are quite an attractive proposition. He would feel he could definitely qualify them.
that sounds like its the australia offer. Does not sound good for us i am afraid.
Possibly Inter Milan.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=47257