No he can't. It doesn't matter who the opposition is when the confidence gone.
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Well, given there was a Mexican wave at Lansdowne against SM, it's probable that we'll see another one or two, or several on Wednesday night. The only thing that's at stake is a revenge mission, and a morale boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newryrep
As for needing to improve the seeding, load of rubbish. Unless you can make the top 2 seeds, there's no difference between 3rd, 4th, and 5th seeds, as this group has shown. When the draw is made in November, we'll still have a tough group regardless.
Go along with most of your comments here. You have to believe your eyes sometimes and I agree about O'Brien and Keogh playing well. Doyle looks short of confidence. Lehman was excellent yesterday apart from his one hike outside the area and for me saved the Germans 2 points. Keane should have buried the second chance mind. The long and short corners worked well yesterday. That was good to see. And anyone involved in the "Mexican wave" should be banned for life. We were on top at that stage and this idiocy IMO changes the rhythm of the game.
What the hell is all the talk about McGeady. He looked decent when he came on, thats about it. Hunt in the past has made much more of an impact when he came on. Long was much more influencial when he came on. Yes I think Stan probably should have brought McGeady on a little earlier but i think some people are getting taken away with his performance. Im getting tired of the mentality that because he plays decent for the good old Irish club that is Celtic he deserves to play for Ireland. Simply put Keogh had a decent game, and it says a lot that every time he got the ball the Germans doubled up on him. Andy O'Brien and Clinton Morrison have really paid the price for poor performances in Cyprus, McGeady was worse than both of those in Czech Rep and Slovakia. He had his chance(twice) and he completly blew it. IMO he really has to prove himself before getting in to the starting 11 again. A decent ten minutes against Germany wont do this. It hurt looking at last nights match because hand on heart i still think we are a stronger side than the Czechs. Yes the Germans only needed a draw last night but we outplayed them at times. When the Czechs were playing Germany at home they(the Czechs) were thought a lesson. I firmly believe that the Czechs will be doing well to get one point on the European Championships. If we get a group like this for the World Cup i for one will be delighted
Good luck for your WC 2010 quali games and many thanks for your hospitality![/QUOTE]
German Tim. Well done last night despite not playing to your full potential. Hopefully you will do well in Austria/Swiss and maybe go on to win it. You had a few Irish guys supporting you last night you know. Yes!! Believe it or not. How sad and pathetic is this? Bet you guys would never support the opposition no matter how your team was playing?
I thought it was Stan's best team selection in a competitive match (at least) to date.
The 2 strikers were very poor especially that waste of space, that is our captain.
Is it just me or is he just a cocky **** when he plays for us??
It sums up the atmosphere and the crowd when they refuse to support their team(thru' singin etc.) but get overcome with the excitement that is............................................
THE MEXICAN WAVE:mad:
Clips of Reid's play last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HNPot7Svx4
Keane has not performed for Ireland in this campaign.
He is supposed to be our star striker and captain.
Since scoring an og in Stuttgart he missed a glorious opportunity to claim three points at home to the czechs thru his showboating and missed another great chance last night, again from showing off.
The team appear rudderless and lack a sense of purpose.
I reckon he needs to be dropped and the captaincy moved, if the manager had the guts. Try Long and Doyle together, or Keogh and Doyle.
I believe Keane would find his form again with healthy competition.
I think for Andy Reid it should be a Luke Kelly song or something like that
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Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Clips of Reid's play last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HNPot7Svx4
The classiest player we have. Lucky Staunton found a pitch that suited him :rolleyes: ****in Muppet.
I have no doubt that with Reid and Hunt starting v Slovakia and Czech Republic, we would have had 6 points from those two games. (and possibly O'Shea and Kelly on opposite wings etc.)
Stan is really getting on my nerves, he says the 'team did the country proud', what does that mean? Not beating an under-strength German team who never had to move out of first gear to get the point they needed secure qualification is doing us proud?
He says we didn't get the 'rub of the green' - it seems like luck is Stan's strategy? Anyhow we had a very deep rub of gren in our last meeting with Germany to only lose 1-0. Getting away with Joey O'Brien as a makeshift CB is a fair amount of luck.
I don't really see progress, all I see is quixotic selection and a fly by the seat of your pants attitude. Whatever this team has achieved and it's not much, it has been done in spite of Stan not because of Stan.
These threads were merged from a seperate "i love mcgeady" "mcgeady was best player last night" thread who's only participants said enough about how the thread was gonna go ;) So you really shouldn't post having a go when you don't know why something was posted :rolleyes:
Bulls**t, Keane has not performed at all in this campaign.He needs a kick up the arse. He was anonymous against the Czechs and Slovakia, missed two sitters yesterday and has no leadership skills. There is no point working hard if there is no end result. The only reason not to drop him is because we have no one else of any quality to replace him but at the very least the captains armband should be taken off him.
well said scousedub. keane has no leadership skills. To make a marker Stan should drop him for the next game ( cyprus as we should win) to set a marker down that it is unacceptable to miss a chance (or 2) like that. If it was for Spurs he would have scored it! But Stan has not the Cahunas to drop him.
Why all the suppport for McGeady on this forum?? He has not done anything special for Ireland in qualifiers, only in meaningless friendly against Denmark!!
Keane didn't work at all. I was in the Lower Canal and watched him in the second half. He just stood there when we had the ball , made no effort to crete space, hardly ever showed for it. His miss was indicitive of his attitude on the night. In fairness to Doyle he ran across the line and was always on the move but it just didn't ahppen for him. However I don't think he's fit at the moment. Long should be on from the start on Wednesday and Richard Dunne should be captain. The back four were solid but I don't think the Germans even got into first gear never mind had to get out of it. Sure, we created a couple of chances, but I always felt the Germans could raise their game if they had to. Keogh did his best but he's not a natural wide man and really we need two natural wingers.
The Germans had us well sussed. Every time Given got the ball they pushed up on our back four forcing him to go long and inevitably it had to go to Kilbane who is probably stronger in the air than Doyle or Keane. We badly need a target man.
Ahhhhhhhhhh poor Kevin Doyle he is a decent lad but Robbie is a ****.
He was not. Keane worked his arse off in both games. Certainly against Slovakia anyway.
So he's purposely playing badly? As long as Keane puts in 100% effort that's all we can ask. I can't stand the abuse the guy gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by scousedub
There's probably 2 things a player deserves criticism for (criticism isn't the right word but I haven't got a great vocabulary). Being lazy and refusing to follow instructions. To actually get angry at a player for missing a goalscoring chance is absolutely insane.
Robbie Keane can only play well with a big striker upfront next to him... either Berbartov or Quinn, he needs the flick-ons as service. If he doesnt have he tends to drop back to try and pick up the ball.
McGeady had a good enough 10 minutes, beat 2 players before hitting a peach of a cross - nearly inch perfect for a winning goal.
Probably would have needed to perfect some garryowen type cross to get up over Mertesakker and quickly down to Keane.
How's that Cillian Sheridan getting along?
I wouldn't question his work rate or commitment at all but he's ineffectual.
We needed him to score that winner v czechs at home which was a great chance to bounce back after cyprus, or bury that shot last night. Both were very scoreable opportunities for premiership striker, not half chances. This is what he's on the team to do and he ain't doing it.
Some healthy competition for that position wouldn't hurt him.
I don't see how it would change things. Competition might make you work harder but it wouldn't have helped him score a goal last night. Again if he wasn't giving 100% and I could understand what competition would do to change him. His problems with Ireland are not by choice.
Thought Reid had a decent game, his passing was excellent which makes the fact that he's clearly overweight even more dissapointing. Imagine the type of player we would have if he was fitter.
Let down yet again by Robbie Keane, another non-performance for Ireland capped by a spectacular miss. Running around loads but doing very little.
When a player is being left on the pitch when they are consistently playing poorly questions must be asked. When is the last time Keane was substituted in a competitive international? No player should be immune from the bench.
Oh well fair played to robbie for trying. He's captain of his country for ch***s sake!! He should have been substituted long before anyone else - his form for ireland is abysmal. Does anyone think doyle would have tried that pussy lob if he'd the whole half to himself?? No, he would have buried it
And ireland didn't deserve to beat Wales at home
I agree with most of the above. The Germans came here without 5 certain starters and their most creative player got injured after 20 mins. They cruised through the game happy to take the point for qualification. I doubt they'd be too down if they lost either with two games to gain one point.
So take this draw for what it really is - a missed opportunity. Just like this whole campaign
He's been playing shockingly for ireland for the past 10 to 15 games and there hasn't even been a consideration to drop him. If any other striker went through the form he has, there's no doubt he'd be dropped and rightly so.
The fact that he's captain seems to make staunton think he can't even substitute him. He shouldn't be in the team considering he seems to be scared sh**less in front of goal for ireland