Be willing to bet my mortgage that these clowns all "support" english clubs without seeing the laughable contradictions in their attitude. If there's any trouble it's only at the big away games.
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Absolute legend - really knew his stuff. Was chatting to him about Gary McKay. He was dead impressed by me remembering Martin Letchkov. Shocking civil fella even if he was wearing a Waloves England shirt on the day of the match!Quote:
(met one Bulgarian guy working in one of the tourist shops who could name every player in any Irish game we asked him about, could name the minute of every goal, knew who scored the goal for Scotland that put us through years ago...)
Sad to hear the stories about Bratislava. I thought the city centre was nice but oviously the rest isn't great. Its probably just the lack of development. Was chatting to Aido from here about it and he rightly pointed out that Bratislava's only been a capital for 15 years - it'll take a while to get to Prague standards. Thought the people were reasonably friendly. Got shafted in 1 taxi but you wouldn't necessarily have to go to Eastern Europe for that to happen.
seen that crap with the nun myself..fuccckin gimp..one of my mates got a dig and a cracked cheekbone from some dirty drunken dub scumbag for nothing
I enjoyed Bratislava and did not have any trouble and our accomodation was spot on. I did not get any taxis as I did not have to other than the one from the train station to our apartment. I was lucky. I did meet a few people who did have run ins with the locals and local police. I do think the Slovakians need to learn more about tourism etc and how to project yourself to the outside world. They could take a leaf from the Czechs and the Poles in this regard. I was in Crackow after Prague and the attitude there was fantastic and they could not have been more help to us.
Again Bratislava was great craic as long as you stayed away from the Dubliner which I thought was a shocker of a bar. The Cuban bar was top class and we found a nice small local place on the Friday night which was good fun aldo.
I couldnt agree more. I had been saying right up until the last night of the trip that it was fantastic as I'd had no hassle over my accent like on previous trips. Then this nasty little scumbag decided to talk to me and Green Tribe in the pub, and as soon as he heard my accent he lost the plot. :rolleyes:
Supposedly I have no right to be at games when I'm from London, and what the **** did I think I was doing as im "english":mad:. He was really agressive and because we both genuienly felt he was gonna really kick off, we left the pub. So now its Stuttgart, San Marino and Prague that I have gotten grief - usually Im raging, but now Im just starting to expect it. He was the most agressive anyone has ever been towards me over my accent though.
Yeah it happened in Bologna also. Its a disgrace in my view as most of the guys and girls that I have found to be sound and easy to get on with are the lads and lassies with so called English accents. Sorry if that sounds patronising.
Dont worry about it Babysis i generally find that the ones that give us grief for following Ireland havent hardly been to many matches and only go when its a good destination, ive been with the midlands supporters going to home and away matches since 1990 and have found that only in the last few years
have questions been asked of why we are there!
I find that you see the same faces at away matches generally and we never get any grief off these as they know were there every match.
So its water off a ducks back now just ignore them
I know what you mean, but I think its disgusting that these idiots are so ignorant and in this case so flipping agressive! It wont stop me doing trips, but it has made me more cautious about chatting to people for the first time on the trips. Nearly all of the fans are great craic, but it only takes one little bigott to make a lasting impression.
Was only in Bratislava on the evening of the game, so had no problems to report. My base was Trencin in the North. Everyone knew each other, and everything I wanted/needed was done without quibble.
Prague on the other hand, was the total opposite.
In San Marino some eejit dressed as a leprechaun had the nerve to question my right to be at a game. He proceeded to take the **** put of me, so I left. Then in the ground I was walking along with my brohter in law (to be) Sylvo and happened to bump ino the same little fecker. Well he near wet himself when I pointed out to sylvo that the fella didnt like people with english accents being at Ireland games. Sadly the same eejit was on the flight we got moved on to when ours was cancelled, and he started again, which resulted in me loosing the head in the arrivals hall at Dublin airport! not good.
Ignorant people are just that..ignorant. They are incapable of providing a rational reason for their views as there isn't one. Is your nationality defined by your accent or your blood? You did the right thing in walking away thus not giving them airtime. Good on yeah!:o
I know that, but it still really ****s me off. Im getting calmer in my old age though. In Stuttgart I had to be removed by the friends I was with from the kebab place we were in because some idiot from Limerick didnt understand how I could be irish, I was raging :o What usually happens is other really nice fans step in and then it gets messy. There was nearly a ruck when we were boarding our flight in Milan (coming back from San Marino) because of the leprechaun fella starting on me and others stepping in telling him to back off.
The Faroe Islands was only the trip I didn't get hassle - but this scumbag elelment are hardly going to bother their arses to travel out somewhere like that, and on that trip it was all the London based lot who were out there and were lucky enough not to get held up by the weather anyway.
I travel with 3 other lads and we have all commented on the amount of muppets now travelling to irish games. It has really been noticable in this qualifying Campaign. I myself have met many lads ands lassies who live in the UK and Europe that support the team and i admire them for their dedication in making the extra effect in getting to both home and away games. So lads and lasies just ignore the muppets as i doubt you will rarely see them at many games.
Had no real problems with Bratislava myself, apart from being told to fcek off by a bus driver because I asked him did he stop on a perticular street, but getting on Bus's up to Dublin as well as the 66 from Maynooth i'm getting used to this craic. Found the people hadn't a clue what was going on and didn't seem to want strangers in their town, never mind put themselves out to help anyone.
If we ever played there I would base myself in Vienna, cracking city, I enjoyed Bratislava but I wouldn't rush back there, but in saying that i've seen Ireland in worse far more unfriendly holes like, Vilnius Lithuania, Skopj Macadonia and Wembley England.
I have seen it happen to Irish fans born in England all the way back to the 70's. Witnessed it in France 79. Holland 81. They were isolated incidents and the idiots involved got told to shut up sharpish by other fans. In those days we had the infamous Shepherds Bush crew travelling to the away games. Nobody ever took the **** out of their accents with good reason as they would kick your head in. Sad to see its back as I have always had great craic with the Irish brought up in England/Scotland/Wales/NI. They have always made up a huge chunk of our support away (and at home).
Pity to see gob****es giving grief to English born fans. As said above, there was none of these fools in the Faroes, probably in part due to the day-trip flights being grounded. I didn't notice any such idiocy in Stuttgart but there were a lot of ****ed up eejits there so I wouldn't be surprised. The more awkward trips seem to rule out a lot of the idiots though so look like a better bet for good trips. Roll on Kazakhstan next time round. ;)
No place for ******* like that - it doesn't matter where you come from or what kind of accent you have, as long as you are on the one side (for that matter, it shouldn't matter whoever you are supporting, but that is a more loved up thread for the Off-topic). Some ties exceed the accidents of birth or upbringing - especially where there is a degree of determined choice involved, serious acknowledgement shold be made - if anything we should be more praiseworthy of those who have chosen to follow a team that cannot securely aspire to win majorly in international competition, when it would be just as easy turn their backs on it, and follow a side that we are regularly told is one of the top ten sides in the world.
And this should be regardless of nationality, assumed or otherwise. Take for example our Bulgarian fan that a few met in Prague. Or the Japanese who make a concerted effort to come from Japan regularly in order get to see us play (Galway United fan I think). We even have a few fans in Cork!
Gobsh!tes however will always be gobsh!tes - this is sadly a universal truth.
Yes the was a Japanese guy sitting behind us in the czech end supporting ireland, i guess his support for ireland grew when he saw them in 2002, but nobody would question his support, however it's a diff story if ya have an english accent. :rolleyes:
what flag incident was that?
i met a few lads from london over in stuttgart last year. one was a tall baldy fella, absolute gent. we had great craic with them, met them a few times over the few days. Do the simpletons not realise that these "english" people are still making an effort to come and support ireland. S who cares where they were born!
Rogue trader what on earth are you on about? It wasnt the fact that the guy with the chelsea tricolour was from london that he got abuse for. And he was never "attacked".
Judging by your posts it sounds like you have a minder/helper by your side all the time to type in tripe. Your obsession with Rovers is embarrassing at this stage. An example being the Miah Dennehy post.
Babysis next time that happens smile and take the clowns pic on your phone! Also ask him what club he supports.
KOH
As far as I could see the guys property was interferred with by people who did not own it. I did not agree with his flag and I said that to him but I did not agree with people removing the flag and touching other peoples property.
He wasnt physically attacked. And it was a Rovers fan, amongst others, who explained that his flag was inappropriate.
Find your shoelaces yet?
KOH
Babysis don't worry about any of those ignorant morons.As one poster pointed out its been happening for years but its only a small amount of brainless cavemen.Its just unfortunate that it has happened to you so often.Many of the guys I travel with are English born Irishmen and they are the most down to earth lads you could get. They get some hassle but very little, possibly because they are blokes.
I hope it doesn't deter you from supporting Ireland and wearing the colours with pride more than i can say for some of those so called Irish scumbags born on the Island.I know who I would rather have a beer with.
Myself and four of my mates absolutely loved Bratislava and are planning on goign back soon, I walked around the so called bad part in the suburbs wearing an Ireland jersey and all i got was handshakes. Met loads of locals and went to a party in a ballymun flat type place with all my friends. Maybe its the Irish fans who fell out of the Dubliner and without knowing it (coz they were so drunk) started singing rebel songs in the locals faces, trying to annoy them. They were the ones who woke up with black eyes. Beautiful clean city, cheap drink, great public transport, fantastic looking women! The opposite of Dublin!!
Prague is a sleazy s hit hole! Great buildings though..
I would just ignore the gob****es girls to be honest. In my experience the London and Bermingham (and watford ;)) groups are as good craic as any.
We were in the karaoke dungeon bar on the friday night. We had gotten talking to a group of local girls in the Slovak pub just outsude the old town and they came along to see what the craic was like. five minutes after we got in the little irish runt walked up to one of the girls and put his hand right underneath her, not pinching her arse if you know what I mean. When i asked him would he do that at home and did his mother teach him any manners he squared up to me. He then threw a few shapes, realised there was six hard men from Waterford with me and left. Had I been on my own he would have started on me.
This same ******** was giving some Uk based fans grief, he was out of it and it wasn't the drink. Dirtbag