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How can a team have pride for that jersey?
We all would, its clear our success depends on those key players staying fit. Our squad isn't as deep as we thought it was outside the backrow and back 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
But it also depends on the bigname players playing well, and Drico's lack of rugby showed on Saturday. He needed that game.
I'd be very surprised if Ireland don't call up at least 2 replacements due to injuries during the tournament itself.
Its not the sport thats the problem here. Its quite a good game to wach in my view and Ireland have a very entertaining team to watch that could do something for once. Expressions like game time and down time and BOD do the game no favours in my view. Good game though.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
i sorta see where you are coming from, though eddie osullivan has lived in the most non posh place in ireland for quite a long time, moylough or as the locals call it moylohhhhhhhh
I'm just hoping that Ogara Moreso will be fit for the start of the tournament.
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Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I hope Ogara Moreso isn't fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
He's an Argentinian centre isn't he?
;)
No hes namibian :D
shows how much you know about rugby :)
So, expressions like "Watch yer house", "Aaawwww Jesus Ref", "Show for it" and Becks, Giggsy, Aldo, Trigger do football favours do they>Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
I think not. :p
nothing wrong writing BOD - Saves me a few seconds when typing!!!
game time and down time are american terms that creep into some of the more methodical managers/coaches in all sports in europe. Far from rugby expressionsQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Nearly every person I know that as an O'name has it typed as his/her initials.
thats cos they are all dubs :P
Not true POS
who all your friends aren't :p
im only jokin.
If BOD's parents had a bit of foresight they might have named him Sean, for all the things than can go wrong they surely do for him when it matters.
It's an ugly game at times.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2007/0816/ireland1.html
I reckon thats our first team lads...
We're ****ed if he's out...
a stupid game to arrange anyway, players who aren't involved in the world cup see big names infront of em and pound away.
How long woud you be out with a broken cheekbone if that is what the x rays show?
http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2007/0817/odriscollb.html
good news the scan shows a fracture to his sinus. He still misses the Namibia game though.
whats our team? i didnt see any lineup there?!?!
btw agree with ye shaker, was the fella that hit him french by any chance? sounds like again just targeted odriscoll knowning he is our main man, and i am serious about that. Playing a club team 3 weeks before the world cup is a joke, of course they are going to just pound away and hit cheap shots, paying a club team from the same country as our pool opponents is just stupid.
Ireland: Girvan Dempsey; Andrew Trimble, Brian O'Driscoll (capt), Gordon D'Arcy, Denis Hickie; Ronan O'Gara, Peter Stringer; Marcus Horan, Rory Best, John Hayes, Donncha O'Callaghan, Paul O'Connell, Simon Easterby, Neil Best, Denis Leamy.
Replacements: Frankie Sheahan, Bryan Young, Malcolm O'Kelly, Alan Quinlan, Eoin Reddan, Paddy Wallace, Geordan Murphy.
No he was not French, and the team needs to play. easy to be critical in hindsight but remeber the last bad injury we had was in a warm up game against Scotland a country not in our group. Injuries are part of rugby that is a fact. Teams need to play together that is another fact. It was widely touted as a great idea when first mentioned. BOD will be fine thankfully but I would be very surprised if we or any other team who gets to a quarter final without an injury to at least one of their key player.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
He was hit by "Mikaera Tewhata" Doesn't sound too French
5 players if I remember rightly got sin binned last night. That wasn't a game of rugby it was war!
This is from today's independent:
Bayonne bruiser Richard Dourte had gleefully exclaimed his vengeful motivations in yesterday morning's edition of L'Equipe.
Recalling his last international appearance against Ireland, a 15-12 defeat six years ago, Dourthe chillingly expressed the thought that "if Ireland have to play without Brian O'Driscoll, it is better for us."
Neil Best loves those types of games though!!!
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Its an attritional game, and moreso than it ever was.
Given O'Driscoll's injury record I'm not sure why we expect to have him fit for a run of games anyway!
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
O Driscoll could be wrapped up in a ton of cotton wool walking down the street and he'd still manage to injure himself.
thank you and good night.Quote:
Recalling his last international appearance against Ireland, a 15-12 defeat six years ago, Dourthe chillingly expressed the thought that "if Ireland have to play without Brian O'Driscoll, it is better for us."
I was (still am) in favour of the two other pre WC warm up games against Scotland and Italy because they have as much to lose as we do were they to go gung ho but Bayonne?
People make out BOD is injury prone but he's had a dislocated shoulder over on the Lions tour (that sphere tackle would have crushed a lesser man) and he had a dodgy hamstring during last seasons 6N. Other than that there is nothing to suggest that he should be classifed as a Johny Wilko/Darren Anderton type of player.
The decision to play Bayonne was astounding to say the least. A French club side, in France, with players from Argentina in their ranks! What the f**k did he expect. Denis Leamy looks like he could miss the World Cup now. And boy is he going to be a loss.Plus, now you're going to have guys going out against Italy now with doubts in their minds, and God only knows what injuries you pick up when you're not focused.
Shambles. O'Sullivan has a lot to answer for.
A couple of possible injuries & Irelands WC hopes evaporate. Puts in perspective the talk of WC Final & even winning the competition. :rolleyes:
Ireland have far too many key players that there is no backup for - Hayes, O'Connell, Wallace, O'Gara. O'Driscoll. Humphreys should have been asked to come out of retirement & he should have brought another specialist open side franker.
Due to the way the games are arranged O'Sullivan does not have many chances of resting players as he needs them to be match fit for the 3rd pool game.
Isn't hindsight wonderful, the injury possibility was mentioned before in the thread and only Shakermaker asked the injury Q.Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
geysir just cos it wasn't asked doesnt mean we couldn't/didnt think it.
Playing a club team is silly in my opinion. Playing italy and scotland made far more sense.
They wanted a game in their "warm weather" training. No others were available. if it wasn't for one punch, it'd be forgotten already
and 5 yellow cards, and leamy and: http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2007/0817/ireland.html and shakermakers comment etc etc.Quote:
They wanted a game in their "warm weather" training. No others were available. if it wasn't for one punch, it'd be forgotten already
To be honest i think we are lucky there werent more casualties/more severe ones, when i heard of the bayonne match ( which i admit was only last saturday ) I said to my flat mate (mad rugby supporter PBS fella) that it was madness he agreed entirely. First thing he asked me when he got home last night "was their any injuries from the match?!". I thought he was on about drogheda :D
But we can agree to differ dodge ;)
I wasn't mad about it eithr POS. I'm just making the point that if it wasn't for that one punch, it'd have been nothing. Leamey will be grand and the rest of it was just rugby...
How optimistic are you lads on our chances? We are in the group of death and if we finish 2nd then it's New Zealand in the Q finals......but if we beat France then I really think we can go all the way to the final.
dont forget argentina, france have only beaten them at home once ( granted latest one ) in 3 previous meetings. Seriously dont underestimate them.
For a selfish reasaon id like to see them as runners up, solely because i have a ticket for the quarters in cardiff, but if you can assure me shaker that they will get to the final if they top the group then Ill do my bit for my country and be selfless :D
I think you are referring to a "spear" tackle (a sphere tackle is something one does on a dance floor circa 2am). And that wasn't a spear tackle, a spear tackle involves being driven, with force into the ground headfirst. BOD's was on his back. The only reason it was marginal was because he was nowhere near the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Agree that the Bayonne match was a dodgy one to pick but the Georgians or the other lot we play (Namibia?) are as likely to have knacked him as well.
As for his injuries, has the hammy not hit him a couple of times previously and he does spend a lot of time down in matches as well. Not suggesting he's a sicknote rather that like Wilko, he puts his body on the line so much.
I don't think this is true. He was dropped from a height when afaik the rules say that the tackler has to hold onto him until he's on the ground when tackling like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
How much rugby have you ever played?Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
You're so far from the truth its unreal.
In modern rugby injuries happen in every game.
If your approach was adopted the game would die.
Get a grip FFS!
He was driven onto his back with downward pressure IIRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
It was probably a penalty, nopthing more, but the mass wailing and gnashing off teeth from people who don't know jack about rugby and can't hack contact sports was ridiculously OTT.