Sorry could you keep personal comments off the site please. I wanna talk about football on this site and nothing else.
Thank you.
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Sorry could you keep personal comments off the site please. I wanna talk about football on this site and nothing else.
Thank you.
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Originally Posted by wws
Ever heard of meeting somewhere and walking over to Tolka.
Well I was never happy with Staunton being given the job in the first place, I realise there wasn't exactly a queue forming for the post, but someone with a bit of experience please.
That said you can't sack a manager off the back of a friendly defeat, he needs to at least be given this campaign to see what he can do with what is in all honesty a poor squad. Also it should be noted that Ireland under Kerr managed some great results in friendlies, but flopped in the actual qualification stages, which is quite rightly where a manager should be judged
yes and its STRICTLY for the HARDCOREQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
unless you live in phibsboro and Dalymount is ure local boozer
Neil Whats the deal with the bohs crest?
Your no more a Bohs fan than a fan of the Ireland team
Whats this an effort to get some sort of respectability on your
ramblings
Again I would request that the thread be kept on topic please.
Request what you want. Remember when you asked for proof of you being a WUM?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
KOH
Sorry if you think I am a wind up merchant but my question regarding Lucifer was a genuine question and I did not mean to cause offence by it. Call it ignorance on my part or possibly the reason was that I thought you may been referring to Roy Keane.
I can assure you that I am not trying to wind you up by having a Bohs Crest. Many people have avatars in this site without having to explain their credentials to the whole site or what footballing habits they have. I believe I should be no different. If you think I just have the Avatar this week for the Cup Game, come back next week and It will be still there and the week after and so on. If I was just about winding up I would have done it long ago and not waited 3 years to do it.
I do not wish to be drawn off topic on this one but I wanted to set the record straight that my motives were not to wind any body up on this site.
So you're a boez fan now? Fair play for picking an EL club to support and remember to keep away from the BSC:DQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Lucifer is lucifer and traitor is traitor.
Anyway back on topic anyone who thinks Stan should go after 3 friendlies knows nothing about the game.
KOH
Well I think it is usually better and more clear cut when people use peoles actually names like Jack Charlton, Mick Mc Carthy Roy keane or Kilcoyne. I understand why you would call such a man Lucifer and I agree with you on the points you made about him and about Dunphy.
I think IF Ireland lose the first 3 qualifers the fai should hold up their hands and admit that they made a mistake and let him go.There would be no point in staying on for the whole campaign at that stage, as we would be will out of the running,might aswell get somebody in for the remainder of the campaign and try and rebuild the confidence and get some sort of winning run together in preparation for the WC group.The fai should look to some sort of investor and try and land a manager with at least some international background instead of paying peanuts for another learner,for instance if Trinidad and Tobago can get somebody like Leo Beenhaker(with Poland now btw) surely we can get somebody of that calibre that can do a job with our squad?
So you think if we lose the first 3/4 games of the campaign with a near full strength team Staunton should be left in the job?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
If we lose the 1st 4 games of the qualifying campaign he should be sacked. But we are playing Cyprus and San Marino so I dont think that will happen.
Tahts the final straw Dave O'Leart ffs. Lads we are rebuilding with very few solid blocks to build a team .We will not get walloped in Germany last wednesday was a bad day but thursday was worse when Irish soccer journalism finally plumbed the depths that we laugh at in England its been coming a long while but the standard of Irish Journalism has reached the gutter all we need now is a swede a la graham taylor.
Are you an Irish Journalist by any chance:DQuote:
Originally Posted by gufct
just like Stan so.......:DQuote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
No..He has to be given a chance to prove himself. His predecessors were experts when it came to winning a friendly and we all know what happened after that.Staunton also appears to lack alot of confidence particularly in front of the camera.Lets hope this is not his usual presentation when talking to the players or we are in big trouble.Lets see what happens against the Germans.
We will have to stick with it now. However if Robson retires there may be an opening to bring in somone as an adviser who would be agreeable to both Staunton and the F A I.
Sack him hes useless
The very notion of sacking Staunton at this stage is ludicrious (like Dunphy) ,The team and management deserve at this stage is our full support at this stage
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by RDBloomfield
When that becomes a write off the next one will be the priority....:rolleyes:
if we had of sacked him after the dutch game we wouldnt be in this position.
it was obvious then that we had serious problems. this kinda result has been coming. if he had any pride he would walk away now.
My thinking too. It seems he doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
I have to agree. What are we possibly going to gain by sacking our manager 4 days before our next qualifier. As bad as it was (and yes it was awful) do we really want Stan out before Wednesday. Its best to think with a clear head after Wednesday IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
well it might send out the message to the players that losing 5-2 away to Cyprus is unacceptable. its much of a muchness really. the current set up will be massacered against the czechs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babysis
I'd say he thinks he will have more pride if he stays in the job and doesn't quit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
Id imagine every player will be up for the game on wednesday and we'll come away with a draw of some sort. Stan will say he's turning things around and John Delaney will back him....
We'll be left with an idiot in charge.
When he said Edwin Van Der Sar was like a 13th man for the dutch he should have been sacked on the spot!!
I was thinking more in the "hang on till I get my pay off for being sacked" pride rather than "I can turn this thing around" pride.
Indeed.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
What money is he on, about 400K a year isnt it?
With over 3 years left maybe we could all donate some cash and make up the 1million+ it takes to get him the boot?
Actually I doubt the FAI are that thick they tied themselves into 4 years of this clown?
i would get him out now. we didnt lose 2-1 to cyprus for gods sake, we were lucky to not get beat 7-2. has to be an all time low. he has had 5-6 games to convince us he is the man, and all i needed was to hear his first 2 press conferences to realize that this gobshiite is not the right man. why should we wait until an ugly protest at landsdowne before he gets booted out?
Oh they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by higgins
Here is an Article on Setanta - sums up my feelings 100%...
A 5-2 defeat to Cyprus must cost Steve Staunton his job. If he is not man enough to resign immediately, the FAI must hand him his P45 and sincerely apologise to the fans for its massive error in judgement.
Saturday night in Nicosia was a disgrace, a scandal and an unforgivable humiliation. No manager deserves to keep his job after watching his side disassembled and torn to pieces by one of European football's traditional minnows. But it is hard not to feel some sympathy for Staunton.
He was given a job he could not do, appointed to a position well above his qualifications and experience.
Staunton's four year plan, his dreams of World Cup 2010 are over. Sure, nobody expected miracles - but not only has the team failed to show any progress, it has regressed into a shambles.
Ultimately, Staunton was the FAI's gamble. It hasn't worked and now the Association must hastily count its losses and shamefacedly move on from one of the darkest days - if not the darkest - in Irish football history.
The FAI should seriously consider apologising to the Irish fans in Cyprus and those with pre-booked tickets for the remainder of the campaign.
A world-class appointment was promised - what was delivered was world-class ignominy.
Ireland were out-played, out-thought and roundly beaten by Cyprus. Not since 1982 have we conceded five goals in one match. That was to Brazil, Saturday it was to Cyprus.
The sickeningly poor performance that led to a 5-2 defeat showed nothing to give Ireland any hope for the future, with the idea that the World Cup in 2010 is a realistic target under Staunton mocked by each Cypriot goal.
Oh how we all laughed along with Stephen Staunton when he dismissed Eamon Dunphy's call for him to be fired after the friendly humiliation by Holland at Lansdowne Road.
Well the joke is over. And so should be Staunton's reign.
But if Stan is to be held accountable for Saturday night, the FAI must be hung, drawn and quartered for his appointment in the first place.
I'd sack him now. We have no chance of qualifying and have to start afresh. Alan Curbishley is the only man that springs to mind and I'd beg him to sign up.
Steve Staunton was duped into taking the poisioned chalice that is the Ireland manager's job by a Cynical and financially motivated Delaney. He was supposed to fail maybee not as spectactularly as saturday night but fail none the less.
the reasons for this IMO are
1. The seeding for the qualifiers dictated that we would face a difficult group and would likely fail to qualify,which in the current climate usually means the manager gets the sack. Having someone like staunton was a cheap option for the FAI as it won't cost an arm and a leg to pay out his contract when we fail to qualify.
2. Delaney knew full well that the majority of the Ole Ole brigade would not look further than Stauntons excellent playing career and status as a favoured son as reason to get behind him and hope in vain for success under him
3. Delaney is a compleate B*****D who won't lose any sleep over the fact that he has destroyed any chance Staunton had of being a decent manager (who'd touch him now?)
I feel for Staunton because he was lead a merry dance by delaney and now really has only one option and that is to see the job trough to conclusion because if he resigns now he'll be unemployable and his only hope however unlikely is to turn things around with Ireland and restore some credibility to his managerial career.Not a pretty thought but I fear were stuck with him for the foreseable future. at the end of the day would you resign from a job knowing you had little or no chance of getting another one?
Good Luck Stan hope it all works out in the end but I'm sorry I dont believe in miracles so please please do the honorable thing and resign now! and take that C**t delaney with you
Agree with a lot of that Raptor, but a couple of points.
1. If the idea is for Stan to fail and leave after this campaign, why give him a 4 year contract?
2. I think that Staunton has to accept his share of the blame. He has played over 100 times for Ireland, he is not a child, and he should have known that this was too much for him, at least at this stage. I am sure that nobody put a gun to his head and forced him to take the job.
Why apply for a job you can't do..
"I feel so sorry for Staunton"?? It must be hard alright earning half a million a year and not actually earning it. Not his fault that he was appointed but if he'd had any decency in him, he would've resigned after the match instead of continuing to get paid for something he clearly isn't up to.
Delaney and the FAI have a lot to answer for, but that doesn't let Stan off the hook. His team lost to a mediocre Cyprus team. The game was actually there for our taking, but the dreadful organisation as well as lack of concentration cost us. As Aldridge said, its as if we picked our back four and goalie from the first five guys we met on the street. What the hell does Staunton do with them during those training sessions? From Saturday's evidence, it looks like nothing.
If I'm crap at my job I get sacked - this in turns means I cannot pay my mortgage.
He'll be ok.