[QUOTE=cfdh_edmundo]Begs the question why did the Spurs managers pick Keane ahead of Defoé most games.
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Can you name those games ?
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[QUOTE=cfdh_edmundo]Begs the question why did the Spurs managers pick Keane ahead of Defoé most games.
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Can you name those games ?
Well it certinaly begs the question why the Spurs fans voted Keane player of the year ahead of Defoe.
Yes, Duff, the prolific goalscorer. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfcman
Erm, Defoe joined them mid-season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Defoe would be well in the running for that award this year.
Keane is an extremely talented player, and an automatic first choice for us because he's miles ahead of any other option there. Yes, he's not Up There with Pelé, Muller, or Batistuta in terms of prolificy, but Maradonna has a career total in the 30s for Argentina, and Cruijff has about the same for Holland. Anyone care to argue that Robbie won't be in that band by the time he retires? :p
Defoe was in the running for the award and came second. If they thought he was better than Keane over the half season he played for them he would have won the award.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
You don't think having only half a season is a wee bit of a disadvantage in that competition? I rate Keane and Defoe around the same level, though they're totally different players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
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Originally Posted by davros
Buy that man a pint!!
Reckon all that wankin from behind all those country walls has impaired sligomans vision somewhat :rolleyes:
Robbie is the man to get us to Germany.
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Originally Posted by sligoman
I farrrrrkinnnn love it, you were'nt that drunk girl outside the stade de France that tried to chat me up when I was doing me power walk up to the turnstile's, who tried to get funny over my accent were yer. I told her where to go, shame yer not hanging around so I can do the same to yerself. :D
Little tip next time yer @ Lansdowne try and avoid getting a ticket for block's UW and UX in the East stand, it's got load's of us not true Irishmen in it.
I think i'll have to keep a look out for all these ingurrrrlish people who post on foot.ie that you've got no problem with. :D
No... cant be arsed looking up the individual games, but from the Spurs site there is this (2003/4)Quote:
Originally Posted by Condex
Keane
Barclaycard Premiership Tottenham Hotspur 31(3) 14 0 0
FA Cup Tottenham Hotspur 3 1 0 0
Carling Cup Tottenham Hotspur 4 1 0 0
Euro Champ. Qualifying Republic of Ireland 6 2 0 0
Int. Friendlies Republic of Ireland 7 4 0 0
Total 51(3) 22 0 0
Defoé
Barclaycard Premiership Tottenham Hotspur 14(1) 7 1 0
Nationwide Div 1 West Ham United 19 11 5 3
Carling Cup West Ham United 3 4 0 0
Int. Friendlies England 0(2) 0 0 0
2003/2004 England U21 1 0 0 0
2003/2004 England U21 1(2) 0 0 0
Total 38(5) 22 6 3
Keane started in 38, Defoé 14, even in taking into account the 20 (I think) extra pre-Jan games Keane had, he still comes out as starting more games for them.
I think people should remember that whilst having short legs makes
if very difficult to score goals they are great for doing cart wheels.
A fact which appears to have been overlooked in this tread for some
reason, unbeknown to me ;)
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Originally Posted by davros
Now that's happened a few time's Dav, i've now taken a zero tolerance stance when it come's to that subject. Plastic Paddy has taken copyright on some of my remark's now and he used them well in Paris when called for.
The signature was taken from a gentleman beside me from the rebel county when I was standing up at the back of the stand in the first half who did'nt like one of his fellow Cork native's, I thought he was going to cause a riot. :mad:
Didn't she ask you to stop talking with 'that scary voice of yours'? Dunno if that was the Laandaan accent or your automatic switch to Barry White mode - oh yeaaahhh! - when ladies get up close? There's a touch of the Frank Brunos (not Bluenose :eek: ) about your voice according to Coventry's answer to Benicio Del Toro. Know what I mean, hee, hee, hee? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sylvo
I want to explain what I said in my original message,I said that Robbie Keane is brilliant.The guy who said he was crap-his location is London-that is why I said no true Irishman would say Keane is crap because of all he has done for Ireland,fair enough he is not doing the best at the moment but he is competing with some top players at Spurs and he is the best striker Ireland has now so we need him.Again like I said I am not against English people,I have plenty of relations who are English.So I hope this answers a lot of your questions
So moving to London has made me less Irish and my opions less valid, you'd better not go on holidays then.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
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Originally Posted by sligoman
Listen honestly, the best idea normally is when your in a hole stop digging. :rolleyes:
:D :D :D :D :rolleyes: Shovel anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
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Originally Posted by sligoman
So I take it when Irish people leave Ireland and go to England they also change their nationality as well as their address.
As well as to bring up their kid's to wear shirt's with 3 puddy cat's on them and teach their kid's Chas n Dave song's.
Did they teach yer about emigration in school or were yer off sick that day.
:eek: There was no switch to Barry White I have to say was too interested in making the ground for the kick off, she did crack me up when she said that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
As for Senior Benito Del Toro from Coventry :eek:
"I'm not narrow-minded. Some of my best friends are gay/black/moslem/English..." (delete as appropriate)Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
To build on what Pat O said, the first law of holes is stop digging.
:rolleyes: PP
Listen,I dont have to explain anything to any of you so go to hell the lot of ye :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Condex
no more of us having to do the exile thing too then :mad: hell ?? ever been to watford ??? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
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Originally Posted by sligoman
Stay on the other side of the road cause you can never tell, we've a thirst like a gang of devil's, we're the boy's from the county hell.
The Pogues
Boy's from the County Hell
From the album, red rose's for me.
BTW You did'nt right that song with Shane McGowan did yer.
Don't you mean 'can't explain'? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Indeed you don't and if the standard of your explanations so far are anything to go by I'd try not to.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Just a quick question, since Robbie now plies his trade in Ingerland is his opinion on his own performance less valid? When you see him being interviewed do you run to turn off the TV muttering about goms living in Ingerland and the like?
Yours
Confused of norf Landaaan :confused:
...And to build on what pp's saying, the second law of holes is to stop talking out them. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
This point has been brought up before but I've never come across a more frustrating player to watch in my life. First of all Robbie is at 24 already a legend. Leading scorer with fifty odd caps is class, its pretty obvious he loves wearing the green aswell. That said am I the only one he drives absolutely mental? Last night after trying that ridiculous chip over the keeper I nearly threw my shoe at the tv, only to be dancing around the room two minutes later after his goal. Why does he waste so many chances trying to score beautiful goals, all the great strikers score scrappy goals. When was the last time you saw Shearer or Van Nistelrooy score a great goal?
Keanes convesion rate of chances to goals is awful, I reckon its about one in four or five at this stage. Dont get me wrong I'm not suggesting he's a bad player but surely (as Giles mentioned after the Holland friendly) all this rubbish can be coached out of him. He seems to play like hes still on the streets of Tallaght. Thankfully most of his misses seem to come in games we end up winning but sooner or later hes going to cost us points in a big match.
This has been done to death on this forum before and the majority agreed but he has quit all the fancy shít since the first set of qualifiers. Do you honestly think he chipped the ball when one on one just to be fancy? Of course he didn't. The keeper stood up tall and judging from the camera angle behind Keane he did the right thing (of course in hinsight he didn't). The keeper just barely got his hand to it. Other than that he was fine last night.
I agree with Eireboy's post there.
As long as he doesnt start up the fancy stuff again I'll be happy :D
i wish he'd quit that feckin cartwheel/pistol celebration though, it must be the worst in world football! celebrations are bad enough but even his bow and arrow was better than this one
Come on ffs,it's better than most of the crap out there.What do you want him to do run around and put his hand in the air like Shearer or maybe stand and stare at the crowd and opposition goalie like Henry.Quote:
Originally Posted by ken foree
I thought Keane was useless. Clean through on goal twice, and he messed up both times. His passing was brutal, his first touch was just as bad. Most of all, his decision making is absolutely terrible, and was really poor last night. At one stage he passed out wide to Duff, when it was easier to just slip the ball to Miller on his inside, Miller would have been through on goal. When he won the ball off of the keeper in the 2nd half, he couldn't play a simple low cross into Elliott. Too much fannying on the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Seriously, he has to improve, cos he is going to do this in an important game. His work rate is always good, and he always gives his all, but he has to start aiming to improve. Record goalscorer or not, he is missing more and more easy chances and it is going to cost us.
I thought Richard Dunne, Finnan and Duff were our best players, kavanagh also did well in midfield. Wasn't impressed with Miller at all, and I think we've seen the last of Gary Breen. Thought John O'Shea was his usual brutal self, Finnan for left back I say. The real star of this team though is Damian Duff, you take him out and we're in big trouble....
I am absolutely 100% sure that if Cunningham is injured or banned Breen will be his replacement. If O'Brien is unavailable Dunne will be his.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
well it's not even a GOOD cartwheel though is it? come on admit it. yes even those you mentioned would be better! no big deal but i hate all the gymnastics like earnshaw and the boy from africa that does itQuote:
Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat
p.s. though judgin by your sig, you have an eye for, shall we say, dramatic gyrations? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DolansWaistcoat
leave Robbie alone. he gets us the goals when we need them. Everyone else is crap so it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to start slagging him. It is like the Spanish Media's campaign to get rid of Raúl FFS. They wanted him out of Real Madrid !!! I know this isnt the same level but it borders on the same kind of madness.
I think Morrison up front is going to be more effective than Elliot. He looked the business in Stade de Paris and I was convinced that he would have scored if he didnt come or injured or at least had the assist to robbie.
Yeah Robbie Keane is a legend. He doesn't take as many chances as he should and maybe used to. When he was sent through and tried to lob the keeper I didn't expect him to score, whereas a few years ago I would have. However he's still one of the best players we have (and by his records we have ever had).
And I agree Clinton is still the best partner he have for him. He's improved greatly since he first joined the set-up. His work rate is second to none.
Also what's with all the slating of John O'Shea? He mite not be as good as he was in his first season but he's still a decent full back and much better than Steve 'nosebleed outside his own third' Finnan.
Also Barry Quinn should be back in the squad
Jesus, are some people never happy :mad:
Robbie is no Ronaldo but he is a great player on his day and he's also the best we've got by miles.
Yes he's got his faults and can be frustrating but sure why don't we throw David Connelly back in there instead of him and then people might have a right to moan :rolleyes:
Stop moaning about him and accept him for what he is...a great striker who misses his fair share of chances.(like every other striker)
We're lucky we have players like him.
Finnan is an awful lot better full back than O'Shea. People may be judging O'Shea by the standards he set in his first season but I'm not, he has just been a poor full back the last year and a half on general standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by the ox
Spot on. Unless someone can suggest an alternative, I don't see the point. Keane could be a much better player than he is at the moment, all that complaining to the ref is tiresome, but he still has potential. I didn't think he played well at all the other night but he got in the right position for the goal that won us the match. As a striker, that's enough, a lot of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
With regard to the cartwheel goal celebration one of my English colleagues at work (I live in London) pointed out that it's a bit rich if Duff dances past 3 defenders, plays a great ball in to the box and Robbie taps it in and goes off on an egocentric goal celebration.
I think my colleague was right when he said his first instinct should have been to run to thank Duffer for laying it on a plate for him.
Yeah, I'd have to agree with that. BTW, has anyone noticed that when Chelsea score Robben is always over to praise the player who assisted the goal? Even when Duff flicked the ball back to Robben for his goal against CSKA Duff was praised by a lot of his teammates. It was Duffer that should have been celebrating on Tuesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88