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On what grounds, tell me one area where Dublin City will struggle to satisfy the Licencing Body that they deserve to be in Senior Football next year. The division is irrelevant to this arguement, they should be judged on their sporting performance as to what division they will play in.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Financial grounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breifne
KOH
Their finances will be better than this year due to increased attendences, more prize money and some tv money.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Like Monday's. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dmandmythdledge
Actually, they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
The same jounos do the match reports for both, so I assume this was something similar
Is this based on fact or on presumption. Care to share it with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
That's going be be offset by the increased costs of having a Premier League quality squad and the fact that they have previously made a loss in the Premier Division. Last night's gate would not cover rent or running costs for last night's game.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmandmythdledge
Facts of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breifne
Already posted this but here it is again. Your auditor's report:
"The directors are seeking additional investment from individuals and are hopeful of achieving this. However, if this does not occur we feel that the company may no longer be a going concern and may be forced to cease trading."
The only interested individual is seery. How long do you think before this implodes?
You dont need to be an accountant to work this out. Someone mentioned increased gates, prize and tv money? Hope that was a joke.
No increase in gates, no prize money cos the ambition is to just stay in the premier and absokutely no chance of any TV company televising a CHF game live.
Only increase is in players wages and in rent money. However I wouldnt be surprised if CHF are in the league in 2007 as the UEFA Licensing has so far been a fudge.
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I you look at the attendence thread you will see that it has gone up significantly. I heard somewhere that Setanta were trying to show every team once live. Don't know if it's true though. On prize money they are in the Premier now. Premier is higher than first just to let you know as you don't seem to realise this.
That includes a 'home' game against Bohs though so it's not too representative.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmandmythdledge
Still counts towards income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
You think?:rolleyes: Since when is there prize money for finishing in the bottom half of the premier?Quote:
Originally Posted by dmandmythdledge
Wake up I'm not slagging UCD at all. Wages, rent, insurance and travel costs to pay with a tiny income? Wont last long.
KOH
and what were UCD fans doing in Cardiff when they had a game in Dublin on the Monday?Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
UCDons hope to attract greater crowds by moving to Wales, and a fans delegation was sent over to finalise the plans.
Isn't there now prize money for all places...miniscule amount, but I thought ye got summit no matter where ye finished. Think last season may have been the first such occurence...Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
On the button as usual harpskid!Quote:
Originally Posted by harpskid
5k for the bottom half of Premier.
5k? Oh well then they're sorted:eek: :D
KOH
Or they could be sensible and rename the thread instead of killing off a perfectly reasonable conversation. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stars
Correct me if I'm wrong (and obviously you'd know better than me!), but if your club is in debt, doesn't licencing require you not to make a loss? Or are you covered by directors loans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Breifne
And didn't you get a licence a few years back on the grounds that you were building a new stadium?
Exactly. We're moving the entire university. The average IQ of people living in Dublin's expected to drop by at least five points. :p;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pól-dcfc
It's quite simple really:
bigger support => bigger gate receipts + higher sponsorship revenues = More money => ability to sign better players => better performance on the field
In the long run, the clubs with the bigger support bases will have more success. If clubs with a small fan base are doing better it is because either (a) they are over-performing in revenue generation or in performances on the field or both or (b) clubs with the larger fan-bases are under-performing in revenue generation or on the field or both.
There is the third possibility, that a club is over-spending, betting the club's future in the hope that short-term success will come and build a fan-base that can support the spending. However, my understanding is that club licensing should prevent this from happening in the future.
So the FAI shouldn't have to meddle with the divisions as time will make the decisions for them
Given the history of financial mismanagement in this league, I think I know which. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc
That assumes the FAI's implimenting it properly.Quote:
However, my understanding is that club licensing should prevent this from happening in the future.
So whats different than the current situation?Quote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc
The FAI wants to hand pick the divisions next year. There's a vote some time during the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronnie
The game was rescheduled due to our players' international commitments after we'd bought tickets for the Heineken Cup final. Also we were inspecting the Millennium stadium as it will be the initial design for our new ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFans
Remember, you'll have to factor in the fact that it was full of langers before you make your decision. We wouldn't want to reject it out of hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
as, presumably, will the Welsh average ...Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Sure, but we can only aspire to match the genius of the likes of Cox and Preece.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofstan
the debate that UCD and Dublin City bring nothing to the league is getting old and stale at this stage. i personally love going out to UCD; nice people, good atmosphere and we always win ;) and dublin city is the same. dont think ive ever come across a UCD or Dublin City fan who wasnt a nice person. cant say that for a lot of other EL teams, my own included
Hold on! Aren't UCD in Leinster?Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
It puzzles me that you would shell out to watch a rival team in a different country and miss a UCD game in Dublin.
So are you gonna be supporting Cork against Longford on Friday? Are you gonna go down and support Limerick against the Drogs? :confused:
UCD is in Leinster but not everyone in UCD is from Leinster. In any case, we never considered UCD Soccer and Munster Rugby to be big rivals.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFans
I bought the ticket before the Leinster-Munster semi-final and I'm not going to let the money spent on travel go to waste. I hadn't expected the match to be moved to the Monday, assumed it would be rescheduled for well in the future. I can live with missing two games in the first 11, especially as it doesn't sound like I missed much.
Sacrilege.
Don't worry, a ceremonial First Division club will be sacrificed to appease the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
your missing the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
....that is if Schumi is not from Munster!
Sounds good to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
I understand that he's been to three Munster games this season; two against Leinster and the Final, so that makes him a bigger Munster fan than most of the poor genuine fans who can't get tickets for the big games.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsFans
This is so off the topic, its getting scary:eek: Lets hope Rovers stay in the first division;)
one way or another we will be playing football in a division above your joke club next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ringo