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Kavanagh will be 33 when we play the last Euro 2008 qualifier so age is not an issue with him for this campaign. If anything, we need someone with his leadership in the team. O'Shea is 25 but he's not good enough at the minute imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by BaZmO*
btw - I thought we played 4-4-2 against Sweden with Elliott on the right wing? It seemed like that to me. :)
Does Kelly have the same flexibility?Quote:
Originally Posted by colster
I cant see Kelly playing LB. At least he was no great shakes at that position for Spurs,(opinion based on one game only)
I'd say odds on Kilbane for LB
I think it would be very harsh on Kelly to start him at left back.Could it be possible he will start O'Shea at LB with KilBane partnering Reid in CM and Duff and Finnan on the wings?Have to say looking forward to it should be interesting.
I like the idea of naming the team a day ahead of the game.
It looks like Stan has us bamboozled enough to have many different opinions on the formation.
barring breen who is unattached, is this the first all premiership lineup played in a long while? was trying to rak my brains to think of another friendly atleast were we had 11 premiership or topl flight players on the pitch. and i also read a quote from stan which described Dixon as a "bit of a boy alright". once again your superior knowledge of the age of players has me extremely impressed stan. now if only you could realise that o' shea is a "bit of a donkey alright" and we'd be away
I expect a tougher game than against Sweden.It would be great to see Doyler get of the mark-formation should be a bit more to his liking as well.
does anyone else have an obvious suspicion that Steve is only putting Breen in the team to do him a favour to find a new club,i mean,why the hell else would you play that donkey!!!
Because O'Brien is injured.
That was my impresion too. He was useless out there too!Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Didnt they all take turns on the wing?? Worked well IMO- kept the swedes guessingQuote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Both newly proomted Reading and Sheffield are already reportedly keen on signing him, maybe Staunton is trying to also attract the attentions of the likes of Ferguson, Mourinho, Jol etc.. to ensure he is playing at the highest level?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers1
Yeh Madrid need somebody to cover for Woodgate.:) We have nobody else full stop.
Real Madrid is club for have beens though, Breen has a few good years left in him yet.
It was funny reading the papers after the game. Every paper I read, including the UK ones, said they lined out a different way: 4-4-2, 4-3-1-2, 4-3-3, 4-5-1...!Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
I think the idea was that there was no rigid formation - players were given the flexibility & responsibility to adapt their shape as they saw fit. They seemed to relish it too. Total football, Stan style.
maybe put this q as a post on the board and see if any of the stattos here can answer that for you. something i always look out for myself, along with counting the number of irish born in the starting line up (please no reactions to this im just saying ;) ), but i reckon you might have to go back to charlton to find an all top flight team.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeixlipRed
Wasn't the starting XI in Paris all Premiership? Andy Reid, then at Forest, replaced Morrisson after 30 mins or so but we started out with an all English top flight XI.
From memory it was:
Given
Carr
Cunningham
O'Brien
O'Shea
Finnan
Keane
Kilbane
Duff
Robbie
Clinton
sounds right to me-fair play, as i say.
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Spot on
From the sounds of things on the fai site, it'll be 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2, something along the lines of:
________Given_________
Kelly_Breen_Dunne_Kilbane
__Finnan_JOSH_Reid___
__Doyle_Keane(c)_Duff
or Duff playing behind the front 2. Finnan on the right of a midfield 3 is interesting seeing as how he said recently he didn't like playing there.
My guess is that Stan wants the midfield to be mobile & solid, leaving Doyle, Duff & Keane to provide the flair & maybe Steven Reid driving forward. I suspect he may not be playing Andy Reid as he wants Kelly to have as comfortable an introduction as poossible, Finnan providing him more cover than Andy Reid would. Just a guess though...
I think you are proably right Stuttgart.I think there is also a bit of man management invovled with Finnan, not leaving him on the bench because of his public wooing of Carr
And his one minute vs Croatia (?). He was expected to figure against China but we were struggling. I suspect McGeady will replace either Doyle or Duff at some stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
The more you look at this the more I think Finnan is going to be left-back with Kilbane in midfieldQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Given
Kelly Breen Dunne Finnan
JOSH
Reid Kilbane
Doyle Keane Duff
Probably makes sense if he is thinking of bringing the grumpy buddha back right-back.
Finnan is out injured Millar in as his replacement.
Which probably suggests that Finnan was originally selected as a midfielder.Quote:
Originally Posted by FarBeag
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Originally Posted by totalfootball
Not so sure about that but Staunton is quoted as saying Miller is playing wonderful stuff at the moment. He obviously didn’t see the Leeds/ Watford game on Sunday.
Agree. Miller was awful.
Even though Finnan is injured, I don't think Stan would have played him at left-back at any stage. Stan seems to prefer players playing on their natural side of the field, meaning that he is much more likely to play Harte or Kilbane at left-back as opposed to right-footed players like Finnan and O'Shea. Similarly, I think that is why he prefers Finnan or Miller on the right side of midfield ahead of Andy Reid.
On a separate note, I think tonight's formation is quite flexible. If Duff moves back into midfield, it becomes 4-4-2 and if he pushes forward it becomes 4-3-3. I'm looking forward to seeing Miller in midfield tonight. He played on the right side of midfield against Romania (in Roy Keane's return game) almost 2 years to the day. He was man-of-the-match that night. Lets hope he puts in a similar performance tonight.
dont think he was much worse than the rest of the leeds team-they looked like they had the sh its or something but surely mcgeady/andy reid are better options. i mean millers no winger, he cant cross or beat defenders-i dunno this sh it annoys me. they must be doing well in training or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
But Stan will probably play 4-3-3 so it will be 3 centre mids.
True I was wrong with my team prediction of Finnan at left-back. However I do think that left-back is the one position you can get away with a wrong-footed player. Really all they have to do is win the ball and plonk it up to Duff as soon as possible. Let the right-back do a bit of attacking and keep things safe at the back by having three there at all times.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.
Yea I agree. Would have liked to have seen Finnan given a game at left-back. He's very versatile and has quite a good left foot anyway. Am I right in saying that he crossed the ball with his left peg for McAteer to score against Holland 3 years ago? It will be interesting to see how Kilbane gets on at left-back tonight. Irish managers always seem to find a place for Killer so I wouldnt be surprised if he makes that position his own! Gery Speed is a midfielder and he did a good job at left-back for Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by bawn79
Ye that cross was with his left. When he first came onto the scene I think he was described as been able to play on both sides.
And because Breen is a Legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmandmythdledge
Gary definitely seems to play better when he's Unattached, I hope he realises this and decides to become the first player to reverse the trend and announce his retirement from club football to concentrate on his international career.
i believe there is another thread knocking around about how breen is a legend ;)
I reckon 3-0 to Ireland
2-0 to us. Chile will be better than people think.
They probably will be, although in their World Cup qualifying campaign they only managed to beat teams that finished below them :Venezuela, Peru and Bolivia.
Although they did draw with Argentina and Brazil, so who knows.
I reckon Ireland should be strong enough to see them off
More like a Leg End
That's almost 5 years ago now, my how time files :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.