Not claiming it anymore. Miscommunications in the ranks.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaffer
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Not claiming it anymore. Miscommunications in the ranks.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaffer
no rift what so ever. b team was formed to keep a bunch of lads together for crack and play some ball. most of these lads have put in 3 nights training and games with avenue over the last 10 years and just cannot give that sort of commitment anymore. they want to be able to go out on a saturday night etc. we trainied the first few months but was too many injuries and fights (indoor training was harder than some of the matches in 3rd div), so we don't train which suits most of the lads. if they want to train there can with a team. i can honestly say this is the last year for us. we've had a great 3 years won 3rd promoted from 2nd although relegated this year we also made 3 cup semi's (one final to come) and played in european cup in barcelona supposed to go to prague in june put has been pulled.Quote:
Originally Posted by myleftfoot
the main reason was losing j purtill to a team when spudy got injured. up to then no team had put more than 2 goals past us in the 3 years. our back line was mainly the same as well. then we had 8 different keepers in the run in and injuries mounted. joke, teams where scoring for fun stupid goals. we also could't get numbers. many games we had the bare 11, but we gave no walkovers. cup was always our holy grail.Quote:
Originally Posted by myleftfoot
Hey lads,
Who is in the Cup Final? Avenue B vs ?
J
Corofin
Wonder will there be the drama of last years final? Only saw the replay myself but corofin scored some peach of a goal. While they obviously weren't the best two teams in the county, they provided great entertainment. Hopefully a good omen for this years final??
Just wondering if the cup final went ahead this weekend & if so who won it ??
Also does anyone know how the promotion / relegation playoffs have panned out ??
I think the cup final was called off due to bad weather...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauliwallnuts
heard the cup final was re-fixed for this saturday evening. what a joke, the clare league obviously know avenue have a number involved with eire og on saturday versus quilty! ye are an absolute disgrace if ye dont re-schedule it for the week after as it will ruin the final! im sure corofin wouldnt want to win the cup either knowing they had to play an understrength avenue team! just emphasises how much of a joke the league is!
I think the FAI Clare Area final is on Saturday also are Avenue A in this.Quote:
Originally Posted by townie
GAA should never dictate when a soccer game is on.
However I am not in favour of this final going ahead on Saturday evening either.
Cup final should be on Sunday. (as I have said in my previous posts)
Except Clare League dont want to clash with Clare Cork game!
Still ruled by f**in GAA!!
Is this for real.If the cup final had to be refixed it correctly should be refixed for the following week irrespective of what else is on.Are you seriously saying the cup final should be fixed to suit guys involved in GAA.Who are eire og anyway???Did they not reschedule because the CUP Final was on???Quote:
Originally Posted by townie
I agree completely with you shelbourne but it should be on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by shelbourne1904
It was down for last sunday and should have been replayed this sunday regardless of what GAA is on.
The fact is the Clare League scheduled it for Saturday because of a Clare hurling match on Sunday. Now that they have changed to suit one GAA match we have guys involved in other GAA matches complaining.
Most leagues have the cup final and possible replay dates fixed in stone at start of year. Then everybody including GAA players will know well in advance when its on before they enter the competition. Is this too much to ask from the Clare League.
Like everyone else on the thread, I think that the Cup Final should be played on a Sunday regardless of what GAA, Rugby or Tiddlywinks game is on. What would have been the outcome if the original game had gone ahead last Sunday and had gone to a Replay? In previous years the replay had been played midweek, why was this not an option?Quote:
Originally Posted by myleftfoot
All other games have now been put back a week to accommodate the few. There were 3 Schoolboy Finals due to be played this Saturday in Digifone which now have to be moved to the following weekend. I know that the Clare Cup Final should take preferance but try telling that to the 80 or so youngsters who were geared up for their own World Cup Final.
Are you guys saying that you want to compete directly with the Clare v Cork match ?? If you want our game to ever get any publicity then you would not do that. Whether you like it or not most players, managers & fans are also Gaa supporters. Its the number 1 sport in the country & trying to compete for any publicity against that is a lost cause.
I couldnt care less about the Cork/Clare match but I see no reason to compete against bigger events than our Cup Final.As in we equally should not put it on at the same time as the munster match or the English Cup Final.So I think sense has prevailed.However we should completely ignore any requests to change because someone palys for a GAA team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauliwallnuts
The reason the game was not on midweek was to give the county grounds time to recover after the rain.The under 16 cup final will be deffered again this Thursday unless another ground is available.At the moment Doora,Lees Road and Newtown are all closed so the other 3 schoolboy finals are also looking dodgy.
The original game was down for last Sunday when the Clare football team played a munster championship game and I didnt hear anyone complaining. In terms of publicity do you honestly think that our cup final will get huge coverage given the Clare hurling game and all the club football games on over the weekend. The same reporters cover GAA and soccer so dont get too optomistic about publicity especially from the Clare CHampion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauliwallnuts
As for Clare FM im sick of listening for soccer results on sunday evening and sitting through blow by blow reports of under 14 b hurling matches and cross country running to get 30seconds of soccer coverage. If it wasnt for this thread you would think that nobody in Clare gives a damn about local soccer.
why should they reschedule. This is the biggest game of the domestic season if the avenue players choose to play a GAA match over the CUP Final then its a poor reflection on their commitment to the club & their team mates who have done brilliantly to reach the final against the odds. Forget about the conspiracy theorys & have a look at the commitment of your players to winning a cup final medalQuote:
Originally Posted by townie
i think there is a lot of ye talkin s**t, for one thing you are not professionally playing soccer in clare league and therefore should be allowed play gaa too , most of the best players playing soccer in clare league are playin gaa also! also i dunno when the last time was that a cup final be played on a saturday! thirdly players can be equally comitted to more than one sport and finally what sort of recognition would it be to win a cup final against an under strenght team! you get practcally f**k all regontion for winning anything in this joke of a league as it is! its all a joke if u asked me because of idiots like u tryin to compete with the gaa which has clearly more interest around the county! time to wake up i think...Quote:
Originally Posted by papa-j
Lads lets be realistic the GAA will always be number one in Clare, that is a fact, there will be at least 15000 approx Clare people in Thurles on Sunday and whether their are dual players involved in the Cup final or not is irrelevant.
Eire Og have had Avenue players involved for a good while now and alot of Clare soccer teams will have players who use the soccer season to keep ticking over until the GAA season starts. Do not fool yourself into thinking that the Clare League can ever compete with the GAA and if Munster Rugby keeps going the way it has over the last 5 years you will find that soccer in Clare cannot compete with that either.
The trend here seem to be that it is fine to reschedule the cup final to accomodate suporters who want to go to the Clare/Cork game but no one is willing to accomodate the guys playing in the cup final. I would have thought that players needs would come before those of supporters, but then again maybe that is why the clare league is the embarrassment that it is!!Quote:
Originally Posted by shelbourne1904
Few years ago Mountshannon refused to play in the cup final because some of their players were playing hurling. They said they would give a walkover if it went ahead. Clare league gave in and the final had to be played midweek. Bunratty were offered home advantage in order to get them to agree. Groundhog day?? Imagine the cup final played in Corofin?? nothing would surprise me with this league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Legs
Above is exactly why soccer will never take off in Clare,when you have lads shouting all year about soccer THEN it's GAA time,Townie stay on your GAA site and leave the soccer to us,The schoolboy league are going summer soccer next year and i fancy the Junior league will follow.then we will see,we3 have experienced no end of problems between soccer and Gaa....:ball: :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by townie
Can anyone shed some light on when Newmarket Celtic will be playing on their new pitch? Who is currently managing the A team? Is there any new players planned for next season?
Are you seriously trying to compare the Clare football team to the hurling team ??:rolleyes: You are totally right on coverage though. Clare Fm & the champion suck but in all fairness to the People they give good coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by myleftfoot
In reference to your last point I think alot of people give a damn about local soccer but for a variety of reasons are fighting a losing battle against other sports in terms of facilities, recognition, publicity, money, & indeed the LDMC teams who keep robbing the best players. Also the people on the comittee don't seem to have any vision of how to bring the game forward. I've been at alot of those AGms & all they ever talk about is what a great job they've done with Doora. Thats all well & good but its empty every Sunday & even when it is required like ( FAI Area Final) its not lined & the gate is locked.
No, noone and probably;)Quote:
Originally Posted by guvnor
I'm an idiot because I choose to play football over GAA, GET REAL. Try and get the point before you post. If you refixed every soccer match so they dont clash with GAA or rugby we'd never play. As has been said by Ballbreaker soccer will switch to summer season and then both sports will clash directly. It didn't harm the Mayo league who had an FAI Junior cup winner last year. If you think the league is such a joke why do you bother playing, I can tell you its not a joke to the lads involved in our squad every sunday morning & twice a week at training. Dont go knocking people for beingQuote:
Originally Posted by townie
passionate about their sport.
Heard through the grapevine that Kieran Collins may be taking over....Quote:
Originally Posted by guvnor
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Originally Posted by townie
As far as I recall the Cup Final was played on a Saturday about 3 years ago.You are correct players should have the choice to play boths sports but when a cup final is involved the player who is equally commited to both sports should go for the cupfinal,otherwise he is not equally committed.Did eire og try to get their game changed??
As far as winning against an understrength opposition is concerned it is none of a players business what the other teams problems are and in a few years the only thing that will matter is whose name is on the cup!!!!!.
Lifford and Newtown served up an absolute cracker of a cup final last night in Lees Road.The game went to extra time and Lifford came out on top 2-1.Great credit to both teams.Great performance from the officials also.
[QUOTE=shelbourne1904]You are correct players should have the choice to play boths sports but when a cup final is involved the player who is equally commited to both sports should go for the cupfinal,
Not if his cup final is the first round of the championship. The way you are talking why not just bring in a reverse ban and not allow anyone who plays soccer to play GAA or better still don't sign the player if you thionk he might put the GAA before his soccer commitments. Shouldn't really be a problem for Newtown should it................................:D
[QUOTE=First]What is the first round of the championship..the same as the first round of the Cup???There is no need for a ban(invented by the GAA) ,or a reverse ban whatever that is,dont sign players who are not willing to commit to what is required for any reason whether it be knitting classes,chess or gaa!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by shelbourne1904
Where does Newtown come into this???
townie, sounds like your a bit upset that avenue havent got there way. there are plenty of good players in this county who only play soccer.Quote:
Originally Posted by townie
if avenue lads are playing football then they have made the choice to play football simple as that... maybe its because if they dont go to the football match they might not get a start for the rest of the season of gaa. in my opinion its the easy option not to play a soccer match... sur whats going to happen... nothing maybe!!
to be frank id say corofin couldnt give a monkeys which team they line up against on saturday all they want is to bring the cup back again,,,... as for recognition of winning something in the clare league.. it will be recorded in history and sur its something to tell the grandchildren.. not every team wins a competition... look at the corofin team.. will be considered legends around there area!!!
Townie, just to pick up on a few of your points. True, Professional Football is not played by any players that I know in the Clare League, though there are a few former players who have moved to greener pastures under the pretence of better football and/or a few bob. I can't recall any ordinary GAA Club players getting paid either. I agree that the choice of sport that an individual wishes to play is his own choice as most soccer players within the Clare League also play other sports weather it be Hurling, Football, Golf etc. The point I want to make is the Avenue B players have chosen to play for Eire Og in the first round of the Championship themselves, instead of playing in the Final of the Clare Cup. THEIR CHOICE.Quote:
Originally Posted by townie
My second point is in regard to the Cup Final being played on Saturday. It is fairly obvious to everyone that the Cup Final was scheduled for this date instead of Sunday to avoid a clash with the Clare/Cork Hurling game.
If I am not mistaken Avenue tried to defer last Sunday's original date for the Cup Final as several of their players were going to Cardiff for the Rugby game, the weather helped Avenue out on that occasion.
Midweek games are a no start for Avenue also (or is that just the A team).
You also seem to forget that Corofin have and have always had a Soccer team that is made up of mostly GAA players, though they are not in the Senior Championship the parish is definately GAA orientated but what they have that Avenue/Eire Og don't have is a community understanding in regard to a games importance.
Lets face the facts. If the Clare League allowed this game to be deferred because of a few players commitment to the Hurling Championship and the game was set for next Sunday, are Corofin playing in the Intermediate Hurling or Football Championship on that date? So the Cup Final gets deferred for another week. On that weekend Eire Og are playing in the Football Championship? can you follow where this is heading.
Avenue will just have to face the fact that the Cup Final is on tommorrow.
As for your comment regarding recognition for beating an under streangth team. I don't suppose we will hear Avenue players commenting on how they beat Corofin with an under streangth team if they perform like they did in the Semi Final.
The bottom line is the Cup Final is on tommorrow, hopefully it will be a good game and that the team that wins the cup are deserving winners regardless of which one of you wins it.
Anyone know who won cup final last night??
1-1 draw, replay next friday at 6.30.Quote:
Originally Posted by myleftfoot
Not a classic game by any stretch of the imagination. Avenue scored early in the first half by Skehill, who had a good game over all. Young Jason Whyte was outstanding for Avenue who seemed to rely on solid defending after going a goal up. Corofin equalized early in the second half by Keane and were the better side in the second half probably because Avenue had a player sent off for a brainless tackle, his second booking of the day.
With all the rubbish that had been written prior to the final, Avenue had nearly a full compliment. Cossy and Fonso were the only two missing. In truth Corofin took a long time to settle but dont have anyone up front capable of converting the few chances that came their way. Young Whyte was unlucky not to win it for Avenue at the death, he dragged his shot wide of the post. James Hanrahan kept Avenue in the game on a couple of occasions that the Corofin forwards managed to get some space behind a solid Avenue rearguard.
All in all a draw was the right outcome as neither of the teams deseved to win the cup or lose it for that matter. So hopefully the replay will be of better quality.
avenue united b team are to donate their cup medals this friday (winners or losers) to newtown who seem stuck for silverware.
at recent league meeting regarding avenue uniteds no show in munster junior cup clare league agree there was a major mix up and requested newtown to replay the final. purely down to the sportsmanship of newtown this replay hinged. looks like newtown declined this offer. as the saying goes eaten bread is soon forgotten. (some newtown lads will know what i'm on about)
Haha - this shud be fun......
Clifford, I can only speak as a player and we turned up for this final twice only for it to be called off. Obviously we were p*ssed off with this. If your lads were going to pull a no show ye could have tipped us off, being such great sportsmen. I dont know the facts if we refused to play for a third time as the players we not consulted, at this stage the interest is gone its over 4 weeks since we last got together. There is also a change of management being put in place. We dont want this cup by default but it was there to be won & ye never showed up! as the saying goes no point crying over spilt milk.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Clifford
Let me clarify some facts here,after the 1st fiasco(all down to the league) Newtown were down to play Avenue in the Munster area final,John O Malley was in Shannon every day speaking to Jim Rocks,Avenue had a problem with the fixture and went to a league meeting,whatever was said i don't know but all of the league panel bar one left in the knowledge that the Munster match would stay as is and the league would put back the FAI area final to suit Avenue.Newtown knew nothing about this till on the day of the match John called into Jimmy Rocks,Jimmy made a comment about the match that evening which John informed him it was off,Jim wasn't happy as John Kelly had just made 16 phonecalls to make sure the players were there,The 1st person John O Mally rang was the one and only member of the league that agreed with him,the league told Newtown and Avenue the fixture was to go ahead,Any phonecall that Newtown made was in the presence of John O Malley,2 players from Avenue showed up for the game,a few days later the league rang Newtown and said that if Newtown were willing to refix the match as a show of sportsmanship they would refix it for Ballycasey.This was turned down for this reason,If Newtown thought it was possible to be playing matches in late May they would have entered the shield which they were reigning champions,Jim knew after May he was losing half his squad to lads going away to the states and uk and some who had other commitments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clifford
Also Jim Rocks and John Kelly had stepped down after the Final that didn't take place,I have good respect for Avenue but here is the bottom line,J O M tried to con the league,it didn't work..............:ball: :ball: