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Yes McGoldrick said that yesterday.
No he was a schoolmate of Liveheads. I thought you had that memory to remember every single detail that your read ; )Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I'm also pretty sure there was a more northern up towards liverpool connection to the tricky one.
I did once.
You reminded us more than once ;) :P
That's obviously hanging out with you too much. Reminding people is your forte.
It's close to that, I did a search for the story that I had read, from when he first came on our radar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
He told how he got in contact with his birth mother and she told him her father was Irish.
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
on loan at Derby, not starting, usually comes on thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
So thats twice today Stutts has been wrong.
Come on someone get the back of a programme with McGoldrick on it and see.....3rd time llucky :D
He's contracted to Blackburn :)
I knew he was at Derby but was struggling to recall at the time. You are witnessing here before all and sundry the demise of my mental powers. Or maybe I just am not that fussed about Leon Best.
Stop making excuses for yourself everyone knows youre a ringer for (remembering )the leetLe(significant/and insignificant)details and obscure facts/info
With the demise of your mental powers, does that mean your guts have stopped working because I want to take over with the guts' test!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I'm senile but not yet incontinent.
At least some of what you say is true, as far as I know. The McGoldricks also have an Irish connection/heritage, but possibly a bit further back than what would entitle him to play for Ireland. I'm pretty sure the article in which David himself mentioned this is in this thread somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Edit: And I see geysir has posted a link to it again above. :)
How can you know, remember if you are or not?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I will see later tonight if you even got this correct.
Paul, if he p#es or cr#ps all over you, you are correct!Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Up into second spot in the Championship, there is a very Irish look about Ipswich
6 Irish taking part, starting with 4 and finishing with 5, both Hunt brother playing
but not at the same time, Noel Hunt getting the winner.
Anyone know of a team in the English leagues fielding more Irish?
Also St Ledger on the bench meaning all the 7 Irish at Ipswich were in the matchday squad.
Oh and I almost forgot, managed by Mick McCarthy!!
Ipswich Town
- 33 Bialkowski
- 02 Parr
- 04 Chambers
- 05 Smith
- 03 Mings
- 08 Skuse
- 18 Tabb
- 12 Hunt (Sammon - 76' )
- 11 Anderson (Hunt - 83' )
- 10 McGoldrick
- 09 Murphy
Substitutes
- 01 Gerken
- 14 Bajner
- 16 Hunt
- 23 Henshall
- 24 St Ledger
- 28 Clarke
- 32 Sammon
Would add that McGoldrick did the work down the right wing and put the ball in which was deflected into the path of Noel
hunt for him to score.
Mick is doing a good job at Ipswich.
Roy Keane should ask him for a job as an assistant.
He would be on a good learning curve and also working with lots of Irish players.
What could possibly go wrong.
Was his birthday today too, happy birthday lad!
Watched the Ipswich game yesterday. He's a talented player but f*** me if he isn't nonchalant. He would want to improve his workrate a bit if he wants to make the step up. Maybe he's still feeling his way back after injury.
Stephen Hunt was a calming influence; Murphy kept himself busy winning headers and bullying defenders, and he carved a few good chances for himself; Sammon had a great chance to score before Noel Hunt's goal but, as usual, took an eternity to pull the trigger and the chance was lost. I'm getting tired of defending him at this stage.
You sure it's not just his running-style and demeanour that makes him look casual? Is he known to be a lazy player? Surely he wouldn't be playing at the top of the Championship if he was actually a lazy player. He seems a fairly honest lad from the little I've seen of him. How many games have you watched him play in?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
It's not often you'll see "Stephen Hunt" and "calming influence" in the same sentence. :pQuote:
Stephen Hunt was a calming influence
Sure you can always berate him... Why defend some of our players but not others? If it was another of our much-more gifted and celebrated strikers, you'd be digging in to have a go.Quote:
Sammon had a great chance to score before Noel Hunt's goal but, as usual, took an eternity to pull the trigger and the chance was lost. I'm getting tired of defending him at this stage.
I issue praise when it's warranted. There hasn't been in much in Keane's performances at Intl. level over the last several years to warrant such praise. But when it does warrant praise, I issue it in kind - Faroe Islands, Georgia friendly, Gibraltar.
And yes Keane is the best striker to ever play for Ireland. His namesake is probably the best midfielder to ever play for Ireland. It doesn't mean I would still play him either.
Why bring up Keane anyways? Does he play for Ipswich?
And I never called McGoldrick "lazy". I said nonchalant. You are just misinterpreting what I say again and being mischievous.
I just found it interesting that your default position for analysis of Sammon was one of defence, but for Robbie, it would seem you come at analysis of his performances from a different angle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Am I? You explicitly stated you thought he'd need to improve his work-rate. Forgive me for assuming you were calling him lazy... In what way ought he improve his work-rate?Quote:
And I never called McGoldrick "lazy". I said nonchalant. You are just misinterpreting what I say again and being mischievous.
He is nonchalant.... He needs to improve his workrate.... He is more naturally talented and skilful than Sammon..... Sammon works harder..... I qualified what I said by saying he may be feeling his way back after a lengthy injury spell.... Never mentioned the word lazy once.... You did....
If you honestly think he acquitted himself as much as Murphy, perhaps you need to watch the match again.
Again. Why bring up Keane? Totally irrelevant and off topic.
Judging from the USA game, I would agree that he appears nonchalant. I haven't really seen him play a full game otherwise. Maybe that's not a bad thing though, we've had enough fellas that will run through walls and create little or nothing.
Exactly. Sammon & Cox can run all day but I would rather have the poise of a McGoldrick than the bluntness of those players.
I can't imagine Mick would tolerate a player who's not pulling his weight. He looks nonchalant alright, but I was keeping an eye on him in the USA match and he constantly on the move, making intelligent runs, keeping the centre halves honest in possession. He might not chase shadows and race the corner flag like your typical Kevin Doyle-style workhorse, but he's not a lazy player from what I have seen.
Nonchalant is one thing, but anyone being told he needs to improve his work rate is being told he isn't working hard enough. It's splitting hairs and engaging in wordsmithery to say that's not the same as lazy. There are degrees of laziness. Bone idle is one extreme, could work harder is probably the other.
Lazy: "Averse or disinclined to work, activity, or exertion."Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
If you're saying he would want to improve his work-rate, aren't you saying he's averse or disinclined to work, or lazy, in other words? If not, then what do you mean exactly? How should he go about improving his work-rate? Perhaps his instructions don't include a requirement to expend energy chasing down opponents seeing as his skills are more technical in nature/he's better with the ball at his feet so should be focusing on getting into good receiving positions for when his team-mates do win back possession?
Where has this comparison come from? I didn't see the game and mentioned nothing of Murphy. I was simply inviting you to clarify your position on McGoldrick.Quote:
If you honestly think he acquitted himself as much as Murphy, perhaps you need to watch the match again.
I already explained why. It was because I sensed an inconsistency in how you approach analysis of the two players; Sammon and Keane.Quote:
Again. Why bring up Keane? Totally irrelevant and off topic.
Nonchalant - (of a person or manner) feeling or appearing casually calm and relaxed; not displaying anxiety, interest, or enthusiasm.
e.g. "Mario Balotelli scored a lovely nonchalant backheel goal in training."
Danny, seriously stop overanalysing what I said. I said he looked nonchalant in one game I happened to be watching and queried whether he was still feeling his way back from injury. I complimented his technical skills. I pointed out that he has different attributes to Murphy & Sammon. You are agreeing with me in a roundabout way now FGS.
You mean how I criticised Sammon? Keane is not beyond criticism and Sammon, McShane & Ward can be praised.
Stop bringing up Keane on threads to have a go at me. I feel like I cannot say anything about anyone without worrying about you making it about Keane.
I have praised Keane several times but you think it is heresy to honestly appraise his performances.
Whatever about him being nonchalant (although you did seem to be making a connection between his nonchalance and his work-rate initially), I was strictly referring to you stating he'd want to improve his work-rate. I think he has a casual demeanour, but saying he has a low work-rate on that basis would be unfair.
I'd assumed you were referring to his general play because you said he is nonchalant and would need to improve his work-rate rather than was. If you were referring to that one game, then fair enough, although your phrasing didn't suggest that at all.
Why should I stop analysing what you say? A lot of it happens to be seriously suspect. If you'd rather your opinions weren't analysed and queried, stop offering them and involving yourself in debates. It's simple really.
Please slap me hard if i ever use the word honest in any football related speak.
That's hardly the only reason we could give you a slap?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
does that apply retrospectively?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
That's just one of many results from a search of the term "honest" in your postsQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I have no reason to doubt TOWK's word, and I only watched the Football League Show highlights, but there was one moment in the second half when McGoldrick tracked back to half-way, won the ball back with a very solid sliding tackle and launched an attack.
I was impressed, particularly since it made me think that it showed he had a bit of work rate.
Gladly. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
All I meant was that he didn't seem like a chancer or like a player with a poor attitude who would go out of his way to drag his feet. He seemed keen. But certainly correct me if my impression is mistaken. Would he really be playing at the top of the Championship if his general work-rate was suspect?
There is a difference between being lazy and being efficient, you have to use your energy where you get the best return from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Running yourself into the ground chasing lost causes like headless chicken is not the best use of energy.
Using your head a bit can make up for a lot of leg work.
McGoldrick may not do a lot but he does seem to be productive when he does do something whereas other
expend a lot of energy producing nothing productive. If there is no end product it is pointless.
Yes I think I say that and was impressed too, yu would have to watch a lot of highlights to see some of our midfielders doing similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Danny, I'm not going to stop posting because you have a grudge.
Again, stop overanalysing what I say. I said he was nonchalant. Someone said the same thing in the USA game thread and you didn't pull them up on it. You are making out that I insulted the player when I complimented him and offered constructive criticism that he could work a little harder if he wants to make the step up to PL & Intl. level. Again, I queried if this was because he was still working his way back to full fitness.
It's common enough parlance, Danny. Should I ask my Granny to start going to football trials because people say their Granny is better at defending than Stephen Ward?
So he's not lazy, but he needs to work harder because he might be lazy, depending on if he's minding himself or not. Got it.