Whats the plans to make up the loss on the 8,000 spare seats every two weeks, how about another price increase, this time from eur 20 to eur 50 admission, that should help.
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Whats the plans to make up the loss on the 8,000 spare seats every two weeks, how about another price increase, this time from eur 20 to eur 50 admission, that should help.
Our crowds haven't increased feck all from when we were fighting relegation to when we were fighting for the title! Mainly because United Park is a bit of a dump. The new stadium will increase crowds no doubt. And whats the big deal about empty seats? You should all be well used to it, this is the LOI ffs!
It's fair to point out that Drogheda brought more fans to a Cup Final than any team in probably the last fifty years. (An attendance of nearly 24,000 at the 2005 final v Cork - mostly from Drogheda).
Also, if the restrictions on capacity at United Park hadn't been so ridiculously low, perhaps 9,000 to 12,000 would have been at each of the final two games of last season to see the title being won. But the 'bread and butter' attendances at United Park are lower than what should be expected.
I accept ye brought more fans to the Cup final. maybe 12k v 9k or similar when exclude neutrals.
Are you seriously suggesting that you would get 3 or 4 times average attendance for title winning games? Give me a break. At most you would have got 5k. I was at the game ye beat us & has several spare tickets from City allocation which I could not sell in the pub to locals.
This is no pop at Drogs but until you see the buildings start work no guarantees with any stadium developments in this country & even at that we have Tallaght situation.
Lower than what ? You cant even average 2,000, the demand is simply not there from the public. Pie in the Sky stuff.
PS : St Francis and Bray had 30,000 between them in 1990, the drogs fai cup final was a once off, their attendances at all european games sicne were poor.
You cannot create thousands of extra fans, ourselves included, we`d be doing well to get 2,000 if we get promoted next season.
Get used to 8,000 empty seats on avg.
Whatever about the weekly crowds- the extra capacity certainly does make big money spinners like major friendlies and possibly concerts a lot more viable. Even cup finals could end up at the venue depending on the teams involved, although I'd imagine FAI cup finals will be at Lansdowne once it's complete.
Oh sweet mother of devine Jesus! Drogheda are operating on a reduced capacity in a horrible ground. How can you even try to suggest that 2,000 is the attendance they will get in a bright shiny purpose built stadium?
Curiosity alone will bring people out in droves at the start and I can imagine that once people start going to watch Drogheda The powers that be up there will do their utmost to keep em comin!
Is there any hint of The GAH HEADS trying to scupper this with planning opposition?
I live in Meath and I dont think the local GAH heads are best pleased at the prospect of Drogheda playing on their doorstep.
Hopefully not! Tallaght was delayed for 3 years before PP was granted in 2000. Many people are unaware that the GAA was behind this. The people who run these gah clubs really do HATE football. I can nearly understand why. Its such a big threat as on a level playing field, the best sport wins... I hope drogs get this PP and move into their new stadium without delays. United Park is an absolute hole - its not suprising if they get low crowds in that place. I can see a doubling of their attendence in a new stadium after the "interest" surrounding such a development disipates.
Sorry - I forgot about the 30,000 at the St Francis game. I think if Drogheda could get 12,000 to a Cup Final, then a similar figure to see them win their first ever title is not unreasonable. I remember a club official at the time saying they could have got 9 or 10 thousand for the Bray game. But as I also said, the average gates are low, and a poor reflection on the local support. Actually, I think Dublin supporters are the worst in the country. A population of well over a million in a supposedly cosmopolitan city where Champions' League football should be more than viable, yet their clubs get attendances which would shame a Conference side. (As I've said elsewhere, they're all watching the 'Dubs' v Laois instead of Bohs or Rovers v Real Madrid or Juventus). It's an extraordinarily insular and parochial outlook for a city that prides itself on being modern and European.
I've just re-read the start of this thread and I'd recommend looking at thejollyrodger's posts on the first couple of pages. Hilarious stuff. :D
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Originally Posted by Straightstory View Post
It's fair to point out that Drogheda brought more fans to a Cup Final than any team in probably the last fifty years. (An attendance of nearly 24,000 at the 2005 final v Cork - mostly from Drogheda).
It's only been just over a year when Derry sold over 12,000 for the windy cup final V St Pats!
I wont even go there about the '88 final V Dundalk (the dodgy pen final)
You mean for their league games, their was a poorer turnout.
First Final for both sides.
The St.Francis publicity machine had started months early, with their away win in Kilkenny in round (3?, 5?)
Excellent price for tickets. IR5 for an Upper Tier ticket.
Nice day weather-wise
It was the first final at Lansdowne Road Stadium.
Two sides with fans whose traditional support lived near Dublin.
Curiosity value for others/neutrals. Neither side had too much LoI baggage yet. St. Francis were still Leinster senior.
To be fair it was mostly Bray/ St. Francis support but soccer supporters in Dublin identified Lansdowne as a happy-place for football (IRL qualification). On the day there was generous over-spill onto the N and S terraces.
Yes more good examples of much bigger one team support and in some cases bigger overall cup final attendance. That Derry v Dundalk 1988 game (dodgy peno indeed, martin bayley barely touched Larry Wyse, shocking decision) anyway the crowd that day was over 25,000 with Derry taking easily 17,000 an incredible support for a team only 3 years back in senior football. I`m also sure Sligo took huge numbers to the 94 final with Derry, again this was well over 20,000.
Im pretty sure there were numerous 40,000 + crowds too in the 60`s at cup finals.
Older Waterford and Rovers fans will know more.
Its certainly gone all quiet on the Drogheda Stadium Front. Sure isnt it already built pre fab style and waiting to be shipped according to Drogs fans!
20,000 was the total attendance at the 1994 final.
Anway, there are probably closer to 60,000 people living in Co. Sligo.
Meath Council are to issue permission for the whole shebang 10k shops gaffs etc:, page 4 of todays star.
kdjac
Todays Star
"Drogheda Utd FC and property developer Bill Doyle are a step closer to building a new 10,000 seater football stadium.
Meath CC has confirmed it intends to grant permission for the project which also includes a retail park and a leisure centre.
The €30m development is planned for a 360 acre site in the south of Drogheda".
Enter An Bord Planaila (?)
Would'nt be too sure of that. Only submissions/objections to the planning application was from a rival developer who is trying to shift some retail units a couple of km away from the new stadium site. Maybe he will go to An Bord Planeala as a delaying tactic until he gets up and running but surely ABP will see it for what it is.
Great news if true. Take that, UCD naysayers.
Cos you'd know all about building a ground, yeah? :rolleyes:
Sure I'll just scoop out a crater in the middle of a field somewhere and call it one. Delighted if your petty nitpicking gets exposed for what it is in this case.
Indeed.
Best of luck to Drogs, as I've always said, but there's a long way to go in this yet, it would appear. It's not as simple as ringing up another team and having Seery throw away more of his money on rent.
And if pointing out that losing a million a year isn't a viable business plan or wondering how you don't check what a piece of land was zoned for before making a planning application is "petty nit picking"...
you are nit picking ! your whole attitude towards us and the stadium is very clear for all to see .You love picking holes in everything we do .Get over it mate , move on and accept that youre a ucd fan :(
Eh...OK.
I'm sure Shels fans and Dublin City fans still think I was nit picking when, in fact, I was completely right.
But hey, what would I know? I challenge you to show me a post where I was nit picking on this issue. :rolleyes:
What exactly was it you were right about Mystic Meg? I seem to remember Higgins handing your arse to you a few times when it came to Shels related matters.
You see the thing is, although your points are always structured and well thought out the fact of the matter is because you are not privvy to the inner workings of clubs like Shels, Dublin City or in this case Drogheda your points can't be taken as accurate. There was a lot going on at Shels, at the time, that you had no clue of, alot of which, made your points moot.
According to a councillor on langerweb, nothing could be done about rezoning the land until the council plannners approved the project. Thats why its only to be applied to be rezoned at next council meeting.
Btw if/when this stadium gets built ill happily dig up all your posts on it as yove being a complete d!ck about it from day one.
Though in saying that, ill hold off on that til the builders actually move in as we ain't there yet, just anoher obstacle we've got over :o