I see he got the best young player award in the SPL for November:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ic/4519696.stm
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I see he got the best young player award in the SPL for November:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ic/4519696.stm
That's great news. Keane going to Celtic may not be such good news though. Strachan might shift his midfield which might result in McGeady losing his place or getting less playing time.
but keane will be a good infulance on Mc Geady. Plus any other irish lad there.
We can only hope. I'd like to think you are right though.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
McGeady might lose his place in the short term but Lennon and Keane won't be playing in the same team long term.
Like Liam Miller and John O'Shea at Man U :eek: :eek: ? I think not.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
he was good mates with o'shea i think you'll find.
Probably more to do with their ****e form - I suppose keane was to blame for that as well..........Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Sure he is also at fault for the Iraq war too.
No, just answering the statement that Keane will have a good effect on the young Irish players in Celtic ? There is no basis for that statement having regard to the form of O'Shea and Miller when he was there. In fact one could argue that O'Shea's form has picked up since he left.
Would have to agree, it seems like a weight has lifted off his shoulders since Keane left...Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Man United are a different kettle of fish... They arent top of the league and they are more like a club in decline from their former glory. No wonder he was having a go at all the players. Man united is not a club i would recommend to any youngster at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Celtic on the other hand are top of their league and look forward to CL football next season if they can keep the ship on course. RMK can feature in the CL matches if he can keep himself fit.
Well domestically at least they look as if they're heading back on course and enjoying their football without the shadow of RMK looming large over them...Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
Sounds like you may have delusions of grandeur there, Rodg. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
On the other hand (and if you haven't I apologise), do let us know the next time a hot footballing prospect comes and consults you before deciding whether it's ManYoo, Arsenal or Chelsea that he wants to join... :p
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PP.
Man United are not a club of stability at the moment. They will continue to be a rocky boat until fergie goes and then the proper rebuilding will start. It would be far better for an irish youngster to get some stability in a smaller club and then maybe try for united in a few seasons time (when fergie has been pushed)
I'll PM you with a tip off ;)Quote:
On the other hand (and if you haven't I apologise), do let us know the next time a hot footballing prospect comes and consults you before deciding whether it's ManYoo, Arsenal or Chelsea that he wants to join...
Fair point and FWIW I'm inclined to agree. Liam Miller's experience, for example, shows the pitfalls of being a fringe player at ManYoo under old whiskey chops. I'd hate to see another Irish prospect go the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
Fine bombast, but I was talking about their record in domestic football since he left. Hardly an artificial construct for the purposes of an argument, so I disagree with your premise, but that's by the by. The answer is five wins and sixteen points from six league games. Those facts speak for themselves. No cherry-picking required.Quote:
Originally Posted by totalfootball
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I agree 100% with this post. Keane's influence on results was immense, both for ManU and Ireland. Anyone who could suggest that results have improved or will improve for either team in Keane's absence are deluding themselves. I remember when Keane got injured early in the 1997/98 season, United's results were excellent in the run-up to Christmas. Some people said United were a better team without him. However, the second half of the season proved how much they missed him. In a similar way, I think United will struggle when they need someone with genuine leadership skills. The likes of Ronaldo will go missing. From what I can see, Wayne Rooney is ploughing a lone furrow at the moment. United are lacking characters - winners who have the convictions to strive for something better. Indeed, I would put United's recent improvement on the domestic scene down to the return of Gary Neville to first-team action. Despite what many people might think, Neville is a player with character, a top professional.Quote:
Originally Posted by totalfootball
So many fans cannot acknowledge the true quality footballers, out of a dislike for the player or a hatred of the club that player plays for. Neville is a great example. I think he's an ar$ehole but he's a class full back and Utd and England aren't the same without him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.
I just finished reading Keane's autobiography, for the third time, and its kinda hard not to agree with a lot of what he's done or stood up for.
Anywho back to the topic. I think it would be ludicrous to insinuate that Keane's arrival at Parkhead would have anything other than a positive effect on McGeady, O'Dea, O'Donnell (?) or any of the other Irish lads at Celtic.
Over the twelve years, yes, Keane's influence was both positive and immense (I'm only referring to ManYoo here as certain aspects of his Ireland career are moot in that regard) and to deny such would be churlish; a bit like David Irving or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's denials of the Holocaust (although this forms rather an unfortunate comparison). My point was that at the end of his Old Trafford career his dressing-room influence seemed more malign than beneficial. Anyone who could suggest otherwise is deluding themselves... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.
Anyway, back to topic. McGeady to score two today at Inverness. :D
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D'you know what? I really don't care enough about the issue to have to labour my point with you for the third time. I offer no real argument about Keane either way because I don't really care enough either way, whatever you may wish to think. I will though state that domestic football and European competition are mutually exclusive in real time, because you appear to conveniently forget it in your presentation of "the facts". It's totally possible to play well in one competition without necessarily doing so in the other. What's so illogical about that?
As it happens, all I did at the start this was recycle an observation I noticed that Paul Wilson had made in last week's Observer, which seemed plausible enough given the football I have seen ManYoo play in the Premiership since Keane's departure. If it's good enough for Wilson, a football journalist whose opinion I respect, then it tends to be good enough for me. I see no reason to change.
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At this point, I don't give a fiddlers about Keane. He no longer plays for Ireland so he no longer interests me. If his playing for Celtic results in any Irish player getting less playing time then I will be upset. That's all the matters.
I would seriously doubt that the arrival of Keane onto the training pitch with his new team mates would have anything other that a beneficial effect on our budding midfield maestro McGeady.
Roy is going to join a team of real men.
It's one thing bollocking the Man U trendies and posers but I think he will be a tad more diplomatic with his new mates. He wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of a flying Hartson elbow in training or find himself alone in the showers with a vengeful Bobo Balde looking to spill some blood.
Real men? I say United are as tough as any other team. They're also a better team than Celtic.
Regardless, I don't care what happens to either Keane or Celtic just as long as current and future internationals aren't hurt by his prescence there.
Not to mention Sutton. Even O'Neill was afraid of him. :) Sutton was out with a virus the last few days and hadn't trained. Strachan said yesterday that he put himself on the bench for yesterday's match. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Again I ask the question on what basis do you suggest this ? He'll have a positive effect on the results because he is a great player but on what basis do you say he'll have a positive effect on the youngsters, when both Irish "youngsters" at Man U (Miller & O'Shea) didn't prosper. As a young player, the last thing you want is someone criticising you. A mixture of praise/encouragement and constructive criticism is what a youngster needs. Does Keane offer this. Sure they'll see he trains hard and is ultra competitive but if they live in fear of a bollicking every time they goof, that won't bring them on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Never read it. Looked at the index for Sheffield Wednesday and every reference which I checked referred to Sheffield United:eek: I refused to put one penny of royalties Dunphy's way by buying the book. Saipan apart, what else has he "stood up for" as a matter of interest. Also, is there any mention of his heart's felt desire to play for Celtic in the book ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
McGeady was subbed yesterday. Thought he was doing ok. Amazing view of the sea from the Calli ground.
His Matt Busby book is brilliant. Everything the Keane book isnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I heard on the radio that McGeady missed a sitter from 6 yards.
Going on reports, training is already at a bone crunching competitive level at Celtic, Roy Keane's arrival may well have a calming effect. Roy may even be rested for some training sessions for his own protection.Quote:
Does Keane offer this. Sure they'll see he trains hard and is ultra competitive but if they live in fear of a bollicking every time they goof, that won't bring them on.
He did. Came to him quickly and he scuffed it wide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I suppose you'll never know and are only speculating unless you interview O'shea and Miller. How many bollickings have these poor unfortunate professionals had to suffer over the years or are you basing your view on one un-aired MUTV interview?Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Keane has offered praise/encouragement and constructive criticism to many a youngster in his days at Man U, though Im only speculating obviously.
Personally, I'll base my view on his career to date. A quality player who has consistently brought the best out of himself and his teammates.
Not a great read - some interesting bits. He does bring up his , shall we say affection for Celtic and a desire to play there. He also states his boyhood club in England was Spurs. He's never professed to be a diehard Celtic fan with boyhood dreams to grace the hallowed turf of paradise, unfortunately you have to see through the tabloid spin. Unfortunately a significant amount of celtic fans haven't managed to do that and are not best pleased at his arrival.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I thought he was one of Celtics better players in a pretty poor performance and I was disappointed that he was subbed, despite Petrov being obviously injured. He did miss a good chance, but it came to him very quick and it was an instinctive strike.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
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McGeady came off the bench after an hour and scored a decent (deflected) goal and also superbly laid Hartson's goal on a plate. He's just hit the bar too.
yknow whats annoys me about this board?>
bringing back old threads. This one is how many months old and we have to scan through all the old crap to see the new comments. I'm not having a go at anyone in particular but maybe if a new thread started with "Mcgeady on Sunday or something"
A thought.
You don't have to scan through the old comments:confused: Just either click on the last page or click on the thread link and it will bring you to "the last unread post".
Back to the subject, Fair play to Mcgeady, that was one of the most impressive substitute preformance i have seen in a long time, should have had two goals.. reminded of Duff before Mourinho stole his football Soul
Not entirely true-an old thread say with 3 pages could have been re-activated and might now have 6 pages so you would still have to scan to see where the new chat started and the old chat stopped, as i say.Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
This has never happened to me. When I open up the Ireland forum I click this icon:Quote:
Originally Posted by as_i_say
http://foot.ie/images/buttons/firstnew.gif On every thread.
It brings me to the most recent post in that thread since I last looked at the thread. The small box beside the date on each post is also lit when it hasn't been read.
Anyway, here's McGeady's goal and assist:
http://media.putfile.com/McGeady-v-Motherwell
Great sub performance. Turned what could have been a draw in to a win. with some fancy footwork (I just love all that sand dancing:D). The two boys he skipped past when creating Hartsons goal, could have serioulsy injured him, if they were quick enough!
Lovely footwork & great to see he picked out a good final ball. Regular McGeady watchers will probably concede his final ball is what often lets him down. He looks a bit bigger than last year too. I hear he also hit the bar.
Keep it up Aiden.