Two points thrown away but dundalk look decent emough and means the fightbatbthe bottom will stay interesting
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Two points thrown away but dundalk look decent emough and means the fightbatbthe bottom will stay interesting
Dundalk looked better than I was expecting they had any right to and if they keep playing like that they will be alright. Rovers will want to be much more clinical and should have made the advantage of an extra man pay particularly at the level they’ll hope to be operating at in Europe.
Yes the goal was a bit of a clanger but hardly underserved or against the run of play
Agree on the red card but as someone just said on the bus there on way home, as it is never a red card Dundalk may appeal it and he might get away with no suspensionQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
We were awful. So many misplaced passes and errors. Dundalk were much better than I'd expected and deserved their point. Tbh, in the second half they should've already been level. Some tidy players there and good options off the bench.
Didn't think it was a straight red but he was gone either way.
I was worried about this game, back in PD with such a big change of players, the Fri / Mon (and will be plenty more) will stretch any squad, then the obvious stress of last Fri night.
First half mostly Rovers, but def thought second half we were better side, and deserved that point, delighted with the nights work, really decent away following too for a Mon night, must been 500-600.
4352 per FAI Connect. Not bad for a Monday night
At one point the score on the creen said 5-0, got a bit of a fright in what the hell have I missed. Was then set back to 1-0.Any flares set off when Dundalk cored?
I was in drogheda end on Friday night and I find it crazy that a lot of fans seem to turn in to lunatics when it comes to dundalk ! Our ultras have been fairly good the last couple of years but the last 2 weeks have been shameful . They also wrecked 2 portaloo toilets in oriel and there was only 2 toilets there for a sold out away crowd of 500! the whole ultra thing has good and bad sides but the loi as a whole seems to have a major problem with these flares it is seen way to often I can think of many times like a linesman getting hit a couple of times by away fans in drogheda and werent dundalk fans burning cobhs plastic pitch last year with flares ? Cup finals other big games have problems too. pitches can be fixed but when children are getting burned something has to be done
I agree with what you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slartibartfast
I find going to away games in the league an unpleasant experience.
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I agree with what you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slartibartfast
There is no safe way for flares to be managed. It is time for the league to get past this crutch.
It would be easier to give the firefighters flares to use on the pitch. They at least wouldn't panic and would know how to put it out.
Damaging another clubs property on purpose does not reflect well on the league.
Exactly why whataboutaery about oriel facilities is bullcrap. If Dundalk had opened a brand new block of toilers friday they'd have been smashed to bits. Utter scumbags who were dragged up by the knuckles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slartibartfast
SPORTS MINISTER PATRICK O’Donovan has said he was “disappointed that it took my intervention” for the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) to attend a Joint Oireachtas Committee last year.
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SPORTS MINISTER PATRICK O’Donovan seemed to enjoy seeing himself on TV when the LoI budget was announced.
His recent comments about pausing all astroturf investments into the League of Ireland are comments from a politician who needs to rein his neck in. FAI were an easy target to come out with a hissy fit in being able to demand they appear before the Oireachtas committee. His recent comments are a complete over reaction. Embarrassing for himself.
Great point last night, fully deserved. We were poor in the first half, lucky to be just one down. Second half we were excellent and the better team. Still scratching my head how Arubi missed from two yards and then when Leonard was sent off it looked over and a missed opportunity. But there is something about this group. Kilduff is becoming a top manager and I'm already worried about holding onto him.
A word on the ref, and I know we all love blaming them but he was dreadful. Rovers had 19 fouls to our 13 yet we had 7 cards to their 1, mind boggling. He even ballsed up the sending off, it was a second yellow and he had to go but giving him a straight red is just incompetence. The lino on our side was equally bad, not a clue what he was doing.
Anyway 33 more draws and we should be safe.
Honestly think the minister was bang on with his comments and pausing funding, and I think he could have even gone a step further and paused more than just astroturf funding. There needs to be a properly hard line taken with this. Flares are an utter scourge on our league. Dundalk are being slapped with a massive repair bill, Drogheda release a half a statement that brushes matters under the carpet, "if we identify these lads they'll be banned", which is a cop out. Same lads will be back at games this weekend, no punishment dished out, and the only ones harmed by this are Dundalk, and the reputational damage to the league done as a result. FAI have disappeared in the midst of it all and haven't taken charge of the situation whatsoever. It's been a dreadful week for the league and nobody is taking any responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
I think I’m significantly closer to Nigel’s views than much of the commentary I’ve seen around this. Anyone paying attention would know that this particular minister has a habit for taking a hard line an this is seen in his approach to the Arts Council and RTE as well so I think anyone in the know would say he would be punchy on the league of Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I’ve seen a huge amount of victim complex commentary around this on social media and Reddit that other sporting bodies would let be punished like or the response wouldn’t be as dramatic. But I think fans have to reckon here with the fact that a holy show was made of the league by the people who would claim to love it the most and that justified or not, it was the fans who allowed the league to be put in a position where they would be subject to collective punishment. I don’t think it’s cause the minster is a GAA man and that suggestion has driven me round the bend.
I don’t think the ministers actions are wildly out of proportion or what the vast majority of the population would think. Equally I think if the FAI and League get their house in order I wouldn’t need to think it’s long lasting. What do people expect was going to happen when a piece of infrastructure the state has invested in was on fire before it was even used ?
Often times what’s wrong with the league feels out of the control of the fans, well in this instance it was entirely within their control and on the night when a government minister was in attendance to open a new pitch, the destroyed it. There needs to be an acceptance of some accountability here
"The chair of Drogheda United, Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne, declined to respond to questions about the incident. She declined to say whether she witnessed Drogheda supporters throwing flares onto the field or if she would help gardai with their inquiries. Byrne was present for the ribbon cutting by the Minister before the game.Sinn Féin said she would not be commenting." This is without a doubt a desperate response like you cant enjoy the fruits of being chair of the club when its politically advantageous and then hide when real leadership is required
100% right on her,On the Minister, the Taxpayer paid for most of the pitch and its being burned in front of him so i cant blame him for his response.Its Dundalk not the taxpayer who will have the repair bill so its probably a little unfair but at the same time if him making a point results in less crimnal damage hes probably doing all clubs a long term positive..Quote:
Originally Posted by Roones26
Byrne ha been silenced by her poilitical party. She is assoiated closely by people who behave with indifference to other peoples safety and welfare. Something they fear becoming a discussion point considering their history, and the Byrne could continue to land herself in it.
calm down there lad she has responded
Bull****. FFG nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
She’s a drogs fan, she probably knows a huge amount of fans who were present, and is being extremely foolish in thinking they can ignore this away.
Dundalk I feel sorry for, ridiculous that they foot the bill, FAI should have stepped in, issued a 70k fine to drogs and put them on a ground closure notice that going forward flares are banned in their support.
They’re her voters she can’t afford to slag them offQuote:
Originally Posted by Dermobohs
You may not have been too far away from this logic, Dundalk have funding and almost ready to go planning for 2 perm toilet blocks at the away end of the ground, one for away fans, one at the YDC side for home fans. Running water and everything !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Both should be in place around April, maybe good timing, but there is another Drogs visit in the summer..................
It isnt nonsense! Its actually pragmatic by SF to instruct her to say nothing. She ran the risk of damaging her reputation by associating with these people and they have let her down. She has photos with the goups in the same week they were stating online what they were planning. She knew what they were planning and didnt put a stop to it! It isnt hard to paint a picture for her and her party know that. She may subsequently have given comment after significant pressure from the IT but it is carefully curated while also not outright condemning the group responsible, the group she is closely affiliated with. This group has formally cavassed for Byrne during election time. Now what is FFG about her being associated closely with a group guilty of criminal damage and serious injury to a 12 year old child, it is fact. With many other infractions in the past. There isnt a pivot to whataboutery here - If the SSA have contributed to issues on crowd behaviour its wrong but they are not associated closely with a sitting TD and one with loftier ambition. If Byrne has any sense and ambition for her political career then she needs to distance herself from reputational liabilities like the F45. She has a blind spot so her party intervened. The main SF office in the county is in Dundalk, the vast majority of current and past elected SF reps are based in Dundalk. Do you think that Dundalk people havent spoken to their elected rep on their concerns and one being Byrnes association with the culprits on Friday night. Some people looking for a pound of flesh and some with concern for their party in terms of reputational damage locally now and nationally if Byrne ends up being proposed for a national portfolio job one day.Dont be so quck to jump to accuse other party's presentation of things Dermo. SF are canny enough to know spot risk themselves and that they cant be dismissed as fake ala Donald Trump. SF, like it or not still have to manage their own history and in many ways distance themselves from much of it. Its common sense or total folly not to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dermobohs
€15k fine, four match ban on Drogs fans at away games, and a season long ban on Drogs fans at Oriel. Seems to punish Dundalk more than Drogs from a financial perspective. Though I guess it prevents a repeat for now.
€15,000 fine for Drogheda, an away supporters ban for the next four games, and no away support in Oriel for the rest of 2026. Don't think they went far enough.
Is there a fear that if they went harder, they would destabilise Drogs? With all the hinted at possiblity of the Americans pulling out ?
They really should have gone with a home game stadium ban. This punishment isn’t really going to bother the lads who caused all this. And I don’t think the possibility of their owners pulling out should have any influence on the punishment handed out.
It’s also not much of a deterrent to anyone else doing the same.
Always the problem with away game bans that the home team may be punished. Probably the most sensible option at this stage though. I think a home game ban, or partial closure would have been very harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
No mention of the fine money going to the repair of the pitch, but maybe it'll happen in the background?
Costs us and a few other teams a few grand and nothing to do with us
But you will have less costs too. No need for security. I've no idea of costs but I'd say the loss will be quite small.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
I really dont understand away fan bans.
Ban there home games FFS
3 of the furthest away games too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Drogheda normally dont even bring many to Oriel Park until recently.
"Alongside this record level of sanction, the League of Ireland and the FAI are committed to bolstering our efforts to combat the challenge that pyrotechnics presents at our stadia. This commitment includes:Mandatory Club Licensing requirements from the 2027 League of Ireland Season for adequate CCTV which will assist with the identification of any persons found to be engaging in the illegal use of pyrotechnics.Enhanced detection measures at key entry points to our stadiums such as the use of pyrotechnic detection dogs.Refusal of entry and / or ejection from the stadium if a person is engaging in this activity followed by a stadium ban."Hvaing read the statement I actually think this is more interesting piece - expensive experience for everyone with that i guess everyone will have to invest in CCTV
Shouldn't be all that expensive to put in a few cameras in strategic places around the ground you would think. Good news for pyro detecting dogs also, presumably they're the dogs who aren't good enough to be in the drugs units.
It’s hardly going to be that expensive considering Drogheda had a media person filming the whole display last week from the pitch.
It’ll be a few grand that we’re losing through no fault of our own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckett
Could they double up as alternate angles for LOIV is the real question!Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
It could be a lot more than that, with the Sat night it attracts more, so if even 350 Drogs had gone, that's over 5k gate loss for Sligo. Losses too to their local bus companies and also bars / food spots at away locations. Same for visits to Pats, Derry, and Waterford.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
The punishment was far too lenient, should have been where it hurts most, a home game behind closed doors, or partial stadium ban, bigger fine etc.
Overall their away fans ban is is actually 5 games as they're also banned from the summer game at Dundalk, not that they'll be missed.
Dan McDonnell has been chirping on about this a good bit. Any idea who it was that recorded the "display?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Drogheda Utds next four way games are Sligo, Pats, Derry and Galway, these clubs have been punished due to the fact they won't fill the away end with home supporters. Drogheda should have received at least 2 home match supporter bans. Then they as a club would do more to weed out the rats who caused this and and take the issue more seriously.