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easily the most over worked hairdresser in the land...:D
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[QUOTE=Jerry The Saint]
Liam Kearney's hairdresser QUOTE]
easily the most over worked hairdresser in the land...:D
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Originally Posted by Kevin77
If he is and Ireland turns it down...then lets find out why.
the london times has a full page on him. too many independant articles on him all with the same story. someone is feeding the media and i smell a waterford rat!
its clear stevie threw a mickey fit about being on the bench in Cork at under 17. his ma and da came to see him play so he demanded (in a competitive game no less) to play, was rebuffed, bench again for the second and didnt stick around for the third group game.
he is refusing to have anything to do with any side managed by kerr. hence he didnt play for the u 19's when asked.
the guy sounds like an obnixious little p.rick and for a player of his age and experience to be demanding Kerr get sacked so we can be honoured with his presence is an insult to us all. id rather have a hole in the midfield than another c.awkie who thinks he can hold the side to ransom
the brits are welcome to him
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Originally Posted by Kevin77
Hit the nail on the head there Kev.:cool:
Sounds like Ireland has the makings of something special, and no Corkman would ever play for England. Nobody here knows the truth so give the kid the benefit of the doubt and the benefit of his youth but he clearly harbours a grudge. Gotta love that pure Cork spirit, if we had more of that in this current Ireland team instead of lazy assed-Dubs we would far better off. And I'm not from Cark either :D
If this is true (which I doubt) then f**k Ireland (the player) we'll take a few reliable Dubs in Owen Garvan and Joey O'Brien for our central midfield for the future. Both are class. He can change his name to Stevie England and try to get an international game in central midfield ahead of Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Carrick, Joey Barton, Kevin Nolan and Jermaine Jenas.
He might get a cap in some silly North American tour in about 8 years or so and he'll be hated by his countrymen for the rest of his life for it.
I'd say its bulls**t anyway. If he was offerred the chance to play against Cyprus on Saturday he'd take it (and score a few Ogs to get Kerr sacked).
cark - miller and judasQuote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
dubs - duff, carr, cunningham, keane, a reid (ok, lazy-assed applies to this one) elliot and dunne
you choose.
the defence rests.
While I agree with most of your sentiments I have to ask a question here. Would you do that to the poor English? Inflict an obnoxious little C.awkie p.rick on them? As if they don't have enough problems? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
And for the record Delaney is a Kerryman if memory serves in spite of the WUFC connection
Well by the sounds of the media reports he just might... same spirit as Dermot Mc Murrough and Churchill's secretary Brendan Bracken and what was that Norwegian chappies name ?oh yes Quisling:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
Pure media tripe, not one quote of substance from the anyone about this and a blast of you are castigating the lad and Kerr in equal measure, with no idea where the situation stands.
The facts are he pulled out of a tourny and Kerr at the time was disappointed. If anyone has a quote from the involved over the last ten days about this I'd love to see it.
Christ, I'd not want you lot to see a real story, the over reaction would be earth shattering. He's only played 1 Prem game, Givens might, might call him up to the u21's next year, lets see what happens then.
Part of the reason he was not selected since the tourny is because he was behind Flood, McCarthy, Paisley, Murphy, etc in the City academy Irish lads, in my opinion and has only really developed in the last 6 months. But that's not "sensational" enough is it?
Spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by Clifford
Cheers, indeed your post was spot on also. Sorry about my edit also, added a little more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin77
Tis Saturday we should all be concentrating on anyway.
You've even gone to the Manchester Evening news to let your gripe with a nothing story be heard?Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
First things first, he could be another Stephen Mc Fail.
I have no time for players like S.Ireland who have a chip on their shoulders and consider playing for foreign teams. He should be itching to play for Ireland no matter what bust up he had with Kerr. He can try his trade in Seria A or the English PL but anything else is treason
I dont know which of you fcukers to Quote after reading all your rubbish...this is a thread about Stephen Ireland and not about the fact that he is from Cork...but since you mentioned it i will give my opinion...Cork people will not tolerate being 2nd rated by a bunch of Jackeens...i had to laugh at some Rovers clown above naming the Cork and Dub players...how sad is that in a thread about this young lad?..some of you Dubs are jealous that Roy Keane is a Corkman and the greatest player ever from these shores...now you are afraid that another fantastic player from the REBEL county with his own mind is going to outdo all you jackeens again..it makes me laugh...what does Dublin ever add to sport in this country then bigmouths?..Kerr should have at least given the young lad a run-out on his home pitch in his home town with his family there...if he was not good enough for that why was he included in the squad first place?...it was only under 17 in all fairness..Kerr was a lot to blame on this also...some of you Dubs dont know whats going on outside the City boudaries in that sh*thole you live in...
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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
This really is a sad and terrible comment about a young lad that could go on to represent our country...i thought a college boy would have more sense about him that to agree with some English tabloid..do you think a Cobh lad would represent England..if you do well wake up please...not a hope in hell..and some of you people on here are criticising posters for complaining about Brian Kerr...and then in another thread you laugh at comments like this..disgraceful!!
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Originally Posted by RedX
Bit Hypocritcal there. You stoop to the same level.
As a Dub I'm not jealous of Roy Keane being from Cork. As for him being the best player from these shores I'd just say that he's one of the best along with a few from Dublin.
[QUOTE=colster]Bit Hypocritcal there. You stoop to the same level.
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I probably do...but would you blame me for being overboard after reading some of this rubbish above...its disgraceful...one guy even mentioned Micheal Collins...this thread has turned into an anti-stephen Ireland-cork thread...
[QUOTE=RedX]I agree. Some of it is just moronic.Quote:
Originally Posted by colster
Don't hold back...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RedX
I would have to say it was probably not the best man management not letting
the lad have a run out in his own back yard but probably an overreaction
on Irelands part, prehaps a bit of an apology/explaination is in order?
It's storm in a tea cup really.
It all smacks of a bit of a media driven feeding frenzy in the build up to the most important week in Irish international football for years. Our media at this stage are almost, if not as bad as the English media in the way that they have hounded successive international managers and teams for the sensationalist story and quick buck!
Whatever the truth is, I don't believe that any player at any level is justified in pulling what appears to be a temper tantrum and walking out, just because he didn't get a run in a competitive fixture in front of his friends and family. Selection decisions, especially in competitive matches should be left to the manager and should be for football related reasons only. They should not be about getting a run just because your family are in the stand. Likewise, I think the chances of an Irish born player, especially a still as yet largely unproven player playing for England over Ireland are remote. (We won't mention Kieron Bracken in the rugby however!)
Redx fair is fair, some of the sh!te that has been spoken has been stupid no arguments there. But c'mon man to try and argue that a guy should have been picked just because the match is being played on his home turf is a load of cack. Honestly man. Regardless of what age group it was or whether it was a competitive or non-competitive match is irrelevant. I can appreciate you getting wound up but don't lose reason just cause you're annoyed.
there is not one irish boy from Cobh that would represent England in ANY sport.
some of the comments on here are sad and they'll seem to be comin from the jackeen *******s!
who said ANYTHING about the FA cup?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
****in idiot :rolleyes:
I would look at the majority of Tets posts nismo and you'll find that the last thing he is is an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by nismo
where's your tongue kingdom?
Sorry, off topic nismo but I like your signature and hope it happens like that!:)
The vast majority of Dubs are just happy a player is Irish no matter what county he's from. I couldn't care where Damien Duff, Robbie Keane or Gary Breen is from as long as they're playing for Ireland. The vast majority of Dubs don't treat their country second to anything, of course that includes county. And your last bit is a load of crap, no need to even argue it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedX
nismo - get to bed ffs.
some of you Dubs dont know whats going on outside the City boudaries in that sh*thole you live in...[/QUOTE]
And this from the stately grandeur of the Leeside village?
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Originally Posted by Kingdom
Thats a matter of opinion there Kingdom really...there were nearly 4,000 at the game in St Colmans Park and i can guarentee you that they were alll extremely dissapointed that Stephen did not get even a 5minute run...in fairness it does matter that its under 17 and a bit of cop on from the management especially considering the game was well lost by the 80th minute..i think there was a problem before the game that we might not know and that is the real reason the management decided to not give the lad a run..
nobody did, for one thing if you'd bothered to click the link I'd posted you'd see it was for the FA Youth Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by nismo
First off, there is no reserve cup final, just the FA Youth Cup final. Man City haven't appeared in the final since 1989, Stephen Ireland would have been about 12 months old at the time, so I doubt he was in the side .Quote:
Originally Posted by nismo
Second, very few semi finals and finals are played in September (when Ireland went back to Manchester) - thanks Eirebhoy for pointing this out.
Thirdly, seeing as how Stephen Ireland was 16 at the time, he probably was in the Academy side, even if he was playing in the reserves (which I doubt) there's no way he captained the side.
Given you are way off on your opening argument, the rest of your post (above) is highly suspect, to be quite honest, it's on a par with some of the "journalism" we've seen in recent daysQuote:
Originally Posted by nismo
cheers, mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Yeah like I said lazy-arsed dub :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
nismo - your credibility is destroyed there not that you'll care
tets. solid work
redx: matter of opinon and I think you'll find there were another 8 guys in that squad who didn't get to play that night - should they all have gotten 5 minutes.
hard cheese on ireland is my vote. if he'd been smart he could have had 10 or 12 more underage caps by now and been seen by his family 3 or 4 times.
as it is I don't take any of this media stuff to heart. although ireland's lack of urgency to deny it and decalre support for the team prior to the big week ahead is disappointing.
chiarraí abu by the way
Lads,
I am a Dub living away from home. I have been away for a few days and I come back to read an article about Stephen Ireland. It has now just changed to a slagging match between Irish people.
For gods sake, we are playing two games in the next week which will decide if we go to Germany and is all we can do is have a go at each other. Everybody unite behing the team , even if they are born in Dublin, Cork, Wexford or Preston.
I dont believe Ireland will play for England, he may have issues with Kerr, but he should not have problems with Ireland. If picked he is representing Ireland and not Kerr.
So lads, get behind all the players, the country and Kerr and stop this infighting.
Anybody got a spare ticket for next Wednesday!!
I'm from Dublin & couldn't give a monkeys where in Ireland any Irish player comes from.
This post is now ridiculous. I thought the rules were attack the post, not the poster. Moderator?
Firstly, on the dub v cork thing, one of the cork posters brought where he was from into it and bad mouthed the dubs, i was merely responding tongue in cheek.
but there appears to be a 'he's from cork so he can do no wrong' here.
look at the facts.
he left an u17 tournament early because kerr wouldnt play him in front of his family. that is unacceptable at any level and is the antithisis of the preperation and professionalism kerr brings to his teams.
he then refused to play u 19 for kerr.
there have been a number of articles in various Irish and British papers in which sources close to him have said he will not play for any Irish side under Kerr. he has not moved to deny the articles. he (or someone is manipulating him) is deliberatley trying to increase the pressure on kerr in a vital week for irish football.
this apparently makes him a hero in cork.
i, and others here, even giving him the benefit of the folly of youth, believe that sort of behaviour should bar him from ever pulling on a green shirt. we dont need this sort of ar.sehole in our team, and imagine how insufferable he will be with a few seasons of premiership ball under his belt?
can anyone from cork look at this as a footballer throwing his toys out of the pram without bringing the phrase 'rebel county' and other such empty crap into it?
It is an honour to represent your country and I don't care what you or anyone else says you don't throw your toys out of the pram if you don't get your way, you represent your country, play the game , complain about it to the papers afterwards. The manager is the manager rightly or wrongly; otherwise the lunatics take over the asylum.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedX
As regards your other comment about someone from Cobh never playing for England... ye still refer to Cobh sneeringly as Queenstown, so what conclusion is one to draw from that?
He allegedly qualifies for the Sassenachs through a grandfather( or is that another pile of tabloid poo?). I am personally eligible to play for 4 countries and never had the ability to even play for the worst of them. Whatever about playing for some of the other countries, even if I was eligible I would never play for England!
Oh and for the record I was extracting the michael, or to put it in Munsterese , ball hopping, did you not see the symbol at the end of the post?
The superlatives that are being written about Ireland were being written about Willo Flood and McGeady only a year ago. He's played one decent game and now he's the messiah! FFS will people get a grip.
The story is only getting the attention it is getting because sections of the media have it in for Kerr at the minute. It is a nothing story about an immature pleyer (doesn't matter where the fc*k he's from) throwing a tantrum.
Whether he's good enough to make it in the premiership remains to be seen never mind play at international level.
Stormin Norman
Well said, and besides the fact that Kerr and most of the squad are annoyed with the Printed media here over the Robbie Keane reports before the French game means they are barely speaking to the papers. And they have all this space to fill...............
At last, a reasonably sensible article on Stephen Ireland.
From RTE's website:
Republic of Ireland U-21 manager Don Givens insists Stephen Ireland's prior fall-out with Brian Kerr will not block his path to playing for his country again.
Cork-born Ireland had a bust-up with current senior boss Kerr at a time when he was coaching at U-17 level three years ago, vowing then never again to play for the Republic if the 52-year-old remained involved.
But it is understood the Manchester City midfield starlet, who produced a Man of the Match performance on his debut in the 2-0 victory over Everton on Sunday, is willing to put the past behind him.
Givens has been monitoring Ireland's displays of late, although his revelatory outing at the weekend came too late for him to be included in the squad for the final two games of the Republic's bitterly disappointing European Championship campaign.
With nothing but pride at stake, Givens ushers in a new era for tomorrow's match with Cyprus in Larnaca and on Tuesday against Switzerland at Tolka Park, with a number of the old guard replaced by several newcomers.
Ireland will have to wait a while longer yet to return to the Republic fold, although Givens said: "Stephen is a player coming into contention for me now.
"Like all good players he is somebody I will be looking at closely. I've already seen him in action, and he is coming into his own.
"I watched him just a few weeks ago in a reserve match and he did okay, yet despite his performance on Sunday, it was too late to bring him in for these matches because the squad had already been picked.
"There is already a lot of competition in midfield at this level anyway - Joey O'Brien, Glenn Whelan, Darren Potter, Gary Dicker, Aiden McGeady and Willo Flood.
"But if he continues to play for Manchester City then I will be looking at him very differently because despite what happened in the past (with Kerr) that is nothing to do with me.
"He will be assessed like all the other players, and although I've not spoken to him yet, if I pick him in a squad, then he is in the squad and he will come into contention just like everybody else."
There is the suggestion if the FAI continue to dally for too much longer over the 19-year-old, England will step in as he has an English grandparent.
Givens poured scorn on the notion, adding: "I don't believe everything I read in the papers.
"I don't really want to get involved in that kind of stuff. I will look at the lad just as I look at everybody and then we will see what happens."
There are potentially five debutants in Given's new-look squad - Dicker and Darren Quigley of UCD, Birmingham City's Marcos Painter, Keith Keane of Luton Town and Karl Bermingham, currently on loan with Burnley from Manchester City.