The rest of leagues collective hearts break for youse Nesta,a tough last decade youse have had alright !!;);)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
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The rest of leagues collective hearts break for youse Nesta,a tough last decade youse have had alright !!;);)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Lol Whats seldom is wonderful I know but breaking a habit is tough!
“Bohs park the bus..”Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
We haven’t been able to beat UCD at home or away this season so I wouldn’t be putting any money on us
FC Riga are in Fourth place, 7 points off top. 13 points ahead of fifth place. It would be hard to imagine much depth to the Latvian league, and my guess is it would be a way weaker team than faced Dundalk in 2019.
Bala Town finished second and 21 points behind league winners TNS. Welsh football has certainly come on in the last couple of years, but with them being in pre-season and way off winning their league, hard to imagine Bala being any good. Massive oppoutunity for Sligo. Getting through a round is more money than winning the league, and could get them back on track for next year.
Both very winnable games. It is a pity both are not in form. Sligo in particular has massively underperformed anytime they played in Europe in recent memory too. Hopefully their squads can come together.
Really expect all three teams to progress.
Got you talking about it. The only bad news is no news.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Is it not a bit mad that Bala Town are seeded despite only winning 1 round in Europe in their history?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bala_Town_F.C.
Have Welsh clubs done something of note in Europe in recent years that I’ve missed? Surely not to the level of last seasons 7 (I think) wins that LOI sides got, not to mention Dundalk's qualification the year before
Bohs Board in Terminus decline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Laughing about it , not the same thing :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Terrible cliché/myth. Try telling that to Prince Andrew, Gary Glitter, Jimmy Saville etcQuote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Try telling that to Bohs and Longford :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jd2793
Great draw for Rovers (the Shamrock varierty). They should get at least 4pts out of the 2 games, with a home win..
Sligo probably won't get a draw that combines location and ease so perfectly. They should be banned from Europe if they lose either game, and should be aiming for 2 wins here.
Derry's draw is the toughest, but not unwinnable. Their problem is scoring though, so if Derry can stop Riga scoring then they should go through themselves - presumably by narrow win(s). So I'll go with a low-scoring home win and an away draw.
Looks like we will be playing in TNS ground in Owestry. I believe Bohs played there a few back, what was it like to get tickets does anybody know, it only seats 1K.
TNS were a peno shoot out from ECL groups. But yeah its a system that punishes a competitive league and helps perpetuate dominance by 1 or 2 clubs (which was fine when Dundalk were dominant by the way!). I wouldnt want our ranking to drop to preliminary rounds but it does give a leg up for individual clubs. Co-efficient points and money should be added for the rounds prior to entry. Lucky Rovers should have gotten points/money for the 2nd ECL round they skipped last year (Cork also got a buy not so long ago?). I dont think you should be disadvantaged in ranking or money because of the draw or becase you've earned the right to enter a competition at a later stage, maybe with the exception of clubs going straight in to groups or are above some financial threshold. Small margins are big for small leagues.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
That will obviously depend on the demand, but I suspect you'll be fine. Bala's average attendance last season was only 292. I'm pretty sure that Bohs game there didn't sell out.Quote:
Originally Posted by redarmyfaction
Derry , sligo Rovers have to be very happy with that all 3. Great draws.
And that's the truth! You joke but the FAI and league of Ireland should ban any team from first re-entry and in their place goes the last best in Europe not in Europe, who embarrass themselves and the league :DQuote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconfe...ng-round-draw/
No pots yet but the majority of the teams in the seeded side represent a big ask for our current team.
Olympiacos (GRE)
Ludogorets (BUL) / Sutjeska (MNE)
Zrinjski (BIH) / Sheriff (MDA)
Pyunik (ARM) / CFR Cluj (ROU)
1 of these for Rovers if we beat Hibs.
I guess Sheriff is the best (assuming they win) tough though
I’d like to avoid Slavia Prague.
Slavia Praha
Suduva
Spartak Trnava
Winner of Sfîntul Gheorghe v Mura
Winner of Buducnost v Llapi
Plus a handy away trip to north inner-city Dublin :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
From a progression point of view, I’d order the draws as below (most favourable first):Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
1) Suduva
2) Buducnost
3) Mura
4) Spartak Trnava
5) Slavia Prague
From a ‘that’s a great away trip' point of view I’d nearly flip that order upside down. In terms of travel I wouldn’t be mad on having just 7 or 14 days notice to book a trip to (likely) Montenegro or Slovenia, as first world a problem as that is :)
Mura beat Spurs last season aswell,might be good to avoid id say!Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
I recall that game yeah, it was a weakened spurs side but the likes of Harry Kane still played the full 90. They lost the return game 5-1 in London and were beaten in all their other group games with Stade Rennes and Vitesse but still not an easy draw. They were only formed 10 years ago so seem to have had money pumped into them as we’ve seen with the likes of SheriffQuote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Derry's opponents means they will be on the seeded side of the ECLQ2 draw. Knowing this, this could turnout to be the best draw out of all 3 teams today.Quote:
Seeded
1 Derry City (IRL) / Riga (LVA)
2 Royal Antwerp (BEL)
3 Basel (SUI)
4 Tre Fiori (SMR) / Fola Esch (LUX)
5 Vaduz (LIE)
Unseeded
6 Inter Turku (FIN) / Drita (KOS)
7 Koper (SVN)
8 Ružomberok (SVK) / Kauno Žalgiris (LTU)
9 Magpies (GIB) / Crusaders (NIR)
10 Borac Banja Luka (BIH) / B36 Tórshavn (FRO)
Only maybe the Slovenians or Slovakians would be less than a 50/50 game in their potential second round. Although I think both Derry and Crusaders would be massively hoping to draw each other.
There is damn all to work with in that group, catch Olympiacos cold and underestimating opponents could be the lucky draw. Dundalk put Sheriff out on penos 2020 but they went and beat Real Madrid last year in UCL groups (from QR1). Cluj and Pyunik know how to get through tough rounds regularly, Ludogorets should be beating Sutjeska. Unless Rover dig out 2 big games its ECL(QR3?).Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Yeah Derry may just have gotten the best draw if they beat Riga, very winnable ties in that group if they can recapture some form..
Winner of Buducnost v Llapi for St Pats. Mura did beat a half bothered Spurs 2nd string but lost well to Vitesse twice last year. Sfîntul Gheorghe have just 4 European games but not sure that indicates what they're like really. Least inconvenient and expense on travel might be the best draw here too.
Ridiculous. We’ve earned our place to embarrass everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
It shows the stacked nature of closed shop that is Champions league, that Sheriff are still having to scratch around in the prelims despite their progression last year. How on gods name do dog**** teams like spurs get such a relative passage into champions league despite not troubling the league winners enclosure since (?)1961 or thereabouts.
In regards to Rovers drawing Hibs, as stated everywhere else it's the best we could have hoped for.
Get through this round and European football opens up in front of us. Which can only be good for LOI football 😉
Nobody embarrased us more in Europe in recent times than Shamrock Rovers. They're going to hve to be hundred times better than last season's ... whatever that was. Sligo have been keystone cop levels of hapless in Europe themselves, but surely they can beat a Welsh team. Hard to see Derry getting past Riga. They should really have knocked Dundalk out there a few years back.
Cos in the end of the day, Spurs have done a lot more in Europe than Sheriff have.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Seedings are based off this - still includes a CL final appearance for one.
If we beat hibs and then lose the second qualifying round we drop into Europa League Q3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
If we then lose that round its Conference league play off round.
Basically beat Hibs and we are guaranteed 3 more rounds any one of which if we win it guarantees group stages , sounds easy but the draws get progressively harder (unless you are lucky) as can be seen with CLQR2 draw where we would be heavy underdogs against all the likely winners.
Rovers get Ludogorets (BUL) or Sutjeska (MNE) in second round.
Away first leg.
Not hopeful but its not impossible.
That's a horrible tie. Ludogorets are a seriously good team (11 successive league titles since promotion; regulars in the EL groups) but with no profile.
What’s this European Football you all write about!
Don't pretend you don't know! :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNkVtLHY1qE
No easy games at all...especially after the first round.
Rovers should still be happy with Ludograts. Bulgarian football is in complete disarray. While an underdog... i think this is their best draw and best chance
no chance of them beating ludo im afraid
Just noticed Bulgaria couldn’t beat Gibraltar! Shame Ludogorets don’t have many Bulgarian internationals!!
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Thats harsh