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What about giving Anthony Barry a go? Maybe he doesn't want it and he has been involved in this shambles but at least he's an effective communicator, he has a very good reputation in the club game and we may be able to afford to top up his wages to take the managers job.
I agree I would link with Mark Hughes in my opinion he is not english, he is a proud celtic guy, and is a motivator, we need a motivational speaker after this. I wouldnt sack him I would make him to understand and do the right thing, dont alienate the football people in ireland , the national team is bigger than any coach
if it was mi decision after this 17 games, i would see out the remaining games of the group and I would get Mark Hughes inmediately he plays better football, he can motivate people, and he is less than 60, which makes him still young yet experienced. plus he is a proud celt guy
Chris Hughton and Neill Lennon are more less the same both have passion but they play boring stuff. Hughes has the vision , the passion and is someone the celtic people could identify with. Plus he is a well known figure of the game. For me it has to be Mark Leslie Hughes
Chris Coleman? Half-Irish, 19 wins and 13 draws in his 50 games managing Wales -- and he's Ronan Curtis' godfather!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
I suppose the question you have to ask is - if Coleman were to look at the Ireland job and consider it, what would they see? A team on a long decline trying to squeeze something out of PL2 players or third tier loanees. Coleman's career trajectory has been weird - a great spell with Wales but he's flopped since then - but he presumably has ambitions to get back on the merry-go-round. Is the Ireland job a route back to the top? Or has it become a bit of a poisoned chalice?
(This goes for any of the suggestions btw; not just Coleman, who's an interesting call in fairness)
Before Chris Coleman I would get Mark Leslie Hughes better mánager more streetwise and plays it more jogo bonito than Coleman yet is an old fox. Either of those celts could be fine but Hugues will get more tickets
Chris Hughton looks the obvious candidate for me.
He's got good experience, he's a good coach, and he has a good reputation. And he's not a radical swing to the opposite of what has just failed which we're so often guilty of.
Forest are bottom of the table so he'll be available shortly, but that club was a sh*tshow long before he got there.
Failing that I think we have to look outside these islands, though Steven Reid or Lee Carsley maybe come into the conversation.
No poisoned chalice Kenny has done the hard work. Any mánager has to be appointed after the last match vs Luxemburg I think. Qatar match is also the sixth team. Lets not forget. How would be there in that table?
From all the names mentioned Hughes fits all the squares. One thing Kenny is correct was we should have won vs az but we didnt.. I said it before blame cullen and Coleman but for me it was bazunu and thats Kenny choice. I would have stayed with Randolph.
No club is interested in hiring Hughes, no international side is interested in hiring Hughes, no fans of the game want him to take over either their club or international side, and he's way down the list of candidates with the bookies, stop mentioning him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
what the names are?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Sam Aliardyce, Roy Hodgson and Harry Rednapp? then CH or NL
You’d think that Chris Hughton would have enough in the bank to get the Irish Job if he wants it. Nottingham Forest seem to have been a bit of a basket case of a club for a long time ( hasn’t everyone failed their for 10 / 15 years )Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Would Chris Hughton want it ? = = Maybe, after all he has done a lot of club management now.
Ireland are on the worst competitive run of their 100-year history and, should they fail to beat Serbia tomorrow, Kenny will become the first manager in 50 years to preside over an Ireland team out of qualification reckoning with three qualifiers remaining.
Eliminated from two competitions last year, last rites on the third he looked forward to should be applied by Serbia tomorrow.
for that I would get the dutch maestro Gus Hiddink out of CurazaoQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
from the bunch i would get Neil Lennon because he is younger and has won a few things, he is not a bad manager. i would judge him because of Hibernian than Celtic and he did very good. Plus Martin O Neill could be behind that appointment and that would be great, You need to get a guy who indentifies with your people and history, first a sense of belonging with the irish and celtic culture, someone who comprehend that issue and is part of the community.
I have always championed for Gus Hiddink for the Republic of Ireland national team.
You've mentioned Hiddink once before today. You've mentioned Mark Hughes more than Hiddink.
Could do a lot worse than Michael O’Neil. Did ok for the North with even more limited playing resources and played better football. than we managed under Mick or his namesake. Would he leave Stoke for us? Doubtful at this stage.
from the names is NL to reject it with C.H as second choice, robbie keane? he coached the aids soccer game
Neil Lennon is a bad manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
In fact he's really bad. He's dreadful. He was an abject failure at Bolton and Hibs. He was an abject failure at Celtic. The only things he ever won were in Scotland when Rangers were on their uppers.
i judge him for Hibernian and he won it, his stats are good he doesnt play bad football. listen I liked that Kenny did ok, but as Kerr said you cant play too much kids at the same time and get results, mick mccarthy had the same situation in 96 i think we have to check those games I think 20 matches is a good measurementQuote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
he defeated Barcelona, that Barcelona, I judge him for the CL record and he qualified to the last 16 and went to group stages most of the times
There was a reference to approaching Jim Goodwin. I would say that's an interesting proposition. I would also say that I don't think his approach would be entirely different from Kenny's (in philosophy). It's unlikely that taking the Ireland role and it being a disaster (or akin to what it currently is) would affect his standing in Scotland or in the English lower leagues post Ireland.
There would still be a huge amount of "who?" factor though.
Crucially, you'd have to imagine he'd be within the financial bracket that we're looking at, or that a package could be put together that would be appealing to both parties with success being a topper-upper.
My list for next manager.
1. Robbie Keane. No extra expense as paid already.
2. Stan. Everyone deserves a second chance.
3. Mick McCarthy. Everyone deserves a third chance.
4. FAI players selection committee/ alternative foot.ie poll. Players organise themselves on match day.
5. A washed up lower Brit league manager looking for a job.
What's Lord Buckethead doing these days?
Skstu's suggestion of slitting throats and bleeding out is becoming a nice proposition...Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Just one more thing on chris wilder. ( I know he may not want it etc) but his formation of choice 3 5 2 would suit us as we saw v Portugal. I know there is more to being a manager then that but I wouldnt rule him out. I think we will have to invest extra funds for him and like all investments there is risks involved. I would also suggest to offer him 500k with a massive bonus for qualifying. Sweden used to do that and possibly still do. The names on "kingdoms list"!! Are by and large a disaster
now Mark Lawrenson is supporting the idea from Paul McGrath. Veterans Paul McGrath and Mark Lawrenson against Kenny??
ive got to admit I admire the passion of Lawrenson for the irish shirt
I'd still like to know if the team video is the real reason the Duffer left.
Yeah took them up from League 1 to PL and then got sacked. Very harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
It would still be Hughton for me. I know his stock has fallen a bit (and he is still currently employed!) but he is a very decent guy and his teams play decent stuff. He was solid at Newcastle, Brighton and Norwich.
He has said in the past that he felt too young for international management but with dwindling options at club level should he lose his job at Forest and now in his 62 year it should be mutually beneficial were he to be appointed ahead of the nations league campaign.
Obviously SK still has 4 games left to convince people he's worth a contract extension. I'd rather him remain than Lennon or Keane coming in.
On Hughton, it cannot be overlooked that he was the coach of Kerr's team. I know he received a lot of praise for his coaching, but that was a relatively drab Ireland team on the pitch despite being relatively glossy on paper. If Keane is associated with the calamity of O'Neill's style, then the same can't be ignored for Hughton. His club career hasn't been more Gruner Veltliner than Cava to be fair too.
No dice. Hughton was what an assistant manager should be an assistant. Keane was a bellend pop star, with a few whitty gags. Keane had already had the highlight of his managerial career with Sunderland. Hughton would after the Irish job go on to do an excellent job with several clubsQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
There's no obvious choice - all on the potential lists have (many) faults. Anybody with credentials won't take the job and we can't afford them anyways. The current manager has a contract that runs out in the middle of the next qualification campaign. What an utter mess. I think you have to stick with Kenny until his contract expires and hope he can turn it around in the meantime.
While it's true that his system would fit the players we have right now, in 2 years we could have a totally different looking squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Having watched a decade of Trapattoni, O'Neill and Kenny desperately trying to smash square pegs into the round holes they've cut out for themselves, I think we need someone who will come in, pick the best players, and then train them in a system to get the best out of their strengths, and exploit the weaknesses of the opposition.
Maybe but there isn't a system on the planet these days that overlooks the basics principles that Kenny talks about - bravery on the ball, being comfortable and cohesive on the ball. Formations and team selections notwithstanding, using the ball well has to feature. That's what annoys me with Kenny most. He talks about what he wants and it's probably what we all want, but a lot of the time he just doesn't pick an XI capable of delivering it.Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
Jim Goodwin could be an inspired kind of choice, but my worry is he would be doomed from the beginning as Irish fans who are used to calling for Mourinho/Moyes/Tuchel/Klopp/Solskjaers head every weekend will be asking who the hell he is!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Discussion on who should be the next Ireland manager is a joke in itself, question should be whats being done with the game as a whole on this island.
Goodwin is definitely one to keep an eye on.
Lars Lagerback anyone?
Experienced international coach.
WCs & Euros experience with Sweden.
Big part of Iceland's success over recent years.
Not so great with Norway, but they sacked him just as their young players are starting to come good.
73 now and seems to have a cushty advisory role with the Icelandic FA. Sounds ideal at his age.