what actions????overexuberant celebrations yes.rampant hooliganism i think not :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
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what actions????overexuberant celebrations yes.rampant hooliganism i think not :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
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After the security debacle of Friday night and reading through the comments on same I just want to add my bit.
The pitch invasion and what went on inside the ground has been covered by many people. However I had to endure a gauntlet of sub teen and teenage louts down Richmond Rd. to my car. My car was then surrounded by these louts who, while shouting obscenities, proceeded to jump on the bonnet and bang the windows and roof.All this while their elder peers looked on and laughed. At no time did I answer them or make any remarks. It was the most terrifying night at a football game that I have ever endured. I am in my 60's and it appears that my sin was that I was wearing a Shels jersey and was therefore deemed a 'soft' target.
As a longtime supporter of League of Ireland football I looked upon the demise of Rovers and their loss of Milltown as criminal. After my encounter with their so called 'fans' I have now changed my mind. The sooner the better this club is kicked out of football, the better and safer for all.
Of course, it was the other teams fault. It didn't happen. It was the gaurds fault. No scum at Rovers at all etc etc etcQuote:
I'll say yet again I was viciously asaulted, kicked and punches by Rovers scum. If it wasn't for my mates and other Shels fans intervening I could have easily been beaten
Don't you mean Rovers ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Passive
Surely this ( pitch invasions ) wouldn't be seen in the best leagues in Europe? I thought we were all in favour of trying to improve the league ......Quote:
Originally Posted by Colm
No doubt about it, there is an element of Rovers 'Fans' that are scum and only go to high profile matches to cause trouble. The rest are probably harmless enough.
BTW when people say that the 'club' ie Rovers should sort it out, well, the 'club' doesn't really exist anymore. They can't afford to throw fans out / ban them because they are at rock bottom.
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However I had to endure a gauntlet of sub teen and teenage louts down Richmond Rd. to my car. My car was then surrounded by these louts who, while shouting obscenities, proceeded to jump on the bonnet and bang the windows and roof
What was he driving, a tank ?? :rolleyes:Quote:
I made a comment about the events. Yes I did report it to the Garda. They asked me if there was damage to my car and could I identify the culprits. The answer to both was no
What did Shams really do that was so bad, they went onto the pitch and celebrated there win with the players. Bottles were thrown from Shels fans at first and were thrown back. Does this mean that either club have a rampant hooligan problem, hardly. We had a pre season friendly with them and they were no bother. When people here of an incident involving Shams they suddenly jump on the moral band wagon and condem the 'scum' who follow there club.
Got to agree with Da Real Rover. He without sin throw the first stone or in Shels case bottle
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Originally Posted by higgins
I've supported Rovers for 16 years now and I know of far more serious things that Rovers fans have done - few and far between though - than waving our hands and singing and jeering the opposition... :rolleyes:
Wasn't it Ollie himself who established (in the District Court) that using one's fingers is an acceptable means of indicating the score to opposition fans? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by higgins
Of course. And that chap was just asking for it. In fact, he made them do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Imagine being 60 and want to go to a football match? Against Rovers. In a Shels jersey. The sheer audacity of it!
Hilarious thread. We win deservedly. Harmless pitch invasion at the end which can be clearly seen on tv. One paper reports that shels fans started throwing bottles at the Rovers fans with plenty of eye witnesses as well.
The main reason Rovers fans went to the new stand was simply to follow our players off the pitch.
Ollie is the biggest cancer on the league but no all you Rovers haters have to concentrate on this non issue. He attacked Roddy from behind like the cowardly, convicted criminal that he is. FACT.
Will I mention the shels fan in full gear behind us at the ballybough end who shouted out "Rutherford you black *******"? This was witnessed by the Rovers fans present. Yet you had shels fans at the game saying stuff like this and calling us scum?!!! Incredible.
This a club who allowed in dozens of union jacks for the linfield game despite the setanta cup ruling that no national flags be allowed. This a club that played a HOME European tie in england FFS.
Jaime fair play for seeing some sense. All fans have taunted or been taunted. Its part of the game for those of you who are too sensitive.
I relished the final whistle friday cos I knew it would send those pathetic Rovers hating no lifers oily and fintan cassidy into an apoplectic mood. Even the cops who took down our banner "OILY IRELAND'S BIGGEST HOOLIGAN" were embarrassed. What a complete scumbag.
And we, with no ground and bottom of the league, had more support there than the defending champions. Truly pathetic. TBH at this point I have more respect for boez! :o
KOH
AFAIK there was no such rule, it was rumoured briefly, but never put in placeQuote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Fair enough,it's an absolute disgrace and your man should never be allow into a football match again.At no point should be people be discriminated against beause of their colour,nationality or Religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Now hold on,does this not seem a bit hypocritical.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
And that's just a lie,you lot should have stuck with the original idea and as opposed to going to Tolka,gave your money to the 400 club and then we would not be having this argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Lads, the in-fighting on this board about who's fans are to blame over each increasingly frequent incident is pathetic. You're missing the big picture. It's not a problem for Rovers, Bohs, Shels or any one club. It's a societal problem at base level, and above that it's a problem the LEAGUE faces.
Now, we all submit to this forum, presumably, because we care about the league. We would all like to see bigger crowds, bigger games, better facilities, exciting European runs, colour pictures in the papers, big build ups to big games.
This league cant grow while a prominent sector of people attending these poorly attended games behave in a way that is threatening to other spectators. Let's put our heads together and work on solutions to this issue which pervades in the league instead of the childish one upmanship flooding the forum.
How do we get the message to these people that our football league is not an accepted vehicle for their thuggery?
Football fans go to football matches, thugs go to prison.
Let's get to work on the real enemy.
Maybe the small picture is more important. At Bohs, there is a competent stewarding system, where the stewards hold up orange mesh the length of the stand after the final whistle. Result; no pitch invasions from that side of the ground. As Shels fans have repeated though, their club doesn't listen to them when they insist on the need for competent stewarding.Quote:
Originally Posted by el punter
Sorry Jamie but i have to disagree with you on the competentcy of Bohs stewards.As an away fan in Dayler i found the stewards to be sh!te.Would Pats and Rovers fans agree with me on this or is it just Shels fans these stewards treat badly.
I've always found the stewards in dalyer very good tbh
Yee should borrow some of our stewards,the best dam stewards in the league ;)
Well said and your dead right about the union flags they didn't let any irish flags up :rolleyes: there is something wrong there.Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
I'm lost here.
Oily Byrne physically attacks the manager of the club his side are due to play.
$hels fans throw missiles at celebrating Rovers fans.
Shels fans racially abuse sparky rutherford
And some red tosser comes on here and calls us scum?
Have I got the broad gist of this?
And the really quality is people join in.
This isnt rovers fans denying that there was an incident, there wasnt. Shels fans invade the pitch after EVERY game, and when we do it we are hooligans?
Blaming us for all your ills is getting very tiresome.
But Shels are the home team, and they probably don't make their way over to the away supporters to goad them. Let's face it, Shels ( and most other eL fans ) are harmless, Rovers have a significant gouger element in their ranks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
but we dont make them chairman :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shelsman
If you look hard enough there is a gouger element everywhere. It's a leaguewide and societal problem as I said before.
Shelsman, lets just say - by some bizarre freak of nature - that you had become a Rovers fan rather than a Shels fan. How would you now propose that Rovers deal with what you say is 'their gouger element'?
And as a Shelsfan that you are, how do you react to Olly Byrne's behaviour and the alleged racial abuse of one of your former stars? Do you care about the league as a whole or just that we all acknowledge that whatever misdemeanours Shels do, Rovers do worse?
Walk a mile in another man's shoes and all that....
There is also a suggestion in your post that its ok for the home team to invade the pitch???? Have I read this correctly?
I ( and a number of other Shels fans who post in foot.ie ) am unhappy with Byrne's behaviour and have been for a long time. As far as I am concerned the guy is a muppet. Clear enough? :eek: :D :) :pQuote:
Originally Posted by el punter
so basically what you are saying is that even when shels misbehave, its rovers fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelsman
and yes, your fans (and come to think of it your players when they score) have run at us and taunted. but we dont care and dont react. the rovers fans followed the players up to the tunnel which happened to be where you 'fans' sit. a mere conicidence.
Why didn't they just walk away when the players were gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
Lets look at this logically.
Over the last month Ollie has came up with stories about us and suggestions about what should be done to us. Also Shels are league champions and went 1 up early on. We were down to 9 mine and Shels had McKeown giving themevery decision he could possibly give and it was in Shels back yard yet we still prevailled and won 2-1.
It was a highly emmotionaly charged occasion and some people (mainly kids) decided to release that by going out onto the pitch. The first bottles were thrown by shels fans even some of the reports stated that. That football taunting goes on. Sure didnt Rogers celebrate his goal in front of us not his own fans the other nite.
It seems to me that Shels fans are trying to build this up to cover the disgraceful behaviour of their chief executive on friday night.
KOH
JUZ
I'm not covering up what Ollie did,thats not my job and tbh i'm not that disgusted eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Juz the Hoop
Can you imagine what the reaction would have been if the shoe was on the other foot and Roddy had have attacked ollie?Quote:
Originally Posted by D2 Red
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JUZ
Not much of a reaction from me,i wouldn't be that suprised with what Collins does these days and it not my job to react to anything to do with Ollie.In my eyes he will always be OLLIE THE GREATQuote:
Originally Posted by Juz the Hoop
I didnt mean reaction from you as an individual. Youve seen all the hullabaloo about us over the pitch invasion im just saying if it had been the other way round there would be a huge outcry.Quote:
Originally Posted by D2 Red
D2 Red I have to have a serious chat with you bout your views on ollie byrne ;)
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JUZ
If we would have won our fans would not have went over to the Rovers fans and thrown bottles,as far as i'm concerned it was rovers fans threw them first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juz the Hoop
I would really like to have that chat,as we are probably the only 2 EL supporters in the Pearse st area.
Sorry about the wait on the replys,my computer just keeps knocking off.
I meant if roddy had have attacked ollie the outcry would have huge. Ollie wouldnt have shut up about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by D2 Red
D2 Red ah cmon, Shels fans threw missiles first. From where I was the first missile came from the new stand.
Yeah too many barstoolers around Pearse Street unfortunately.
KOH
JUZ
well in that case....Quote:
Originally Posted by D2 Red
my apologies :rolleyes:
dont let the facts get in the way of a good rant!!
I wouldn't give a ****** if Roddy attacked Ollie first,Ollie could say what he liked about it and it still wouldn't have made a difference to me.As i said in regards to Football,he can do very little wrong in my eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juz the Hoop
I was in the Very middle of the new stand and a bottle flew past me and missed a kid by about 2 inches then i saw a bottle being f*cked at the Rovers crowd.I can't say anymore than that because i didn't see anymore than that.
Juz,If you ever want to have that chat,you know where i am or you can contact me here..........We are a dying breed.
Shamrock Rovers as a club,the only thing i can say is F*CK'EM
You know, I sometimes wonder how Rovers' idiosyncratic conception of culpability might have been manifested throughout the ages, had their spiritual progenitors enjoyed access to the internet.
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Originally Posted by UberAlles
Next up in the series: Hoopus Maximus explains why the Roman conquest of Carthage amounted to little more than "a few youngfellas throwing shapes."Quote:
Originally Posted by Doktor Nachtdubben
:D :D
where's post of the month disappeared to ;)
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Good decision to an extent,should have gave a few to the Supporters clubQuote:
Originally Posted by town73
Oh dear, oh dear, what a truly terrible decision by the culchie Bohs. Couple of hundred disgruntled Hoops drinking in your two-bit town. Brilliant security strategy. :rolleyes:
KOH