What would make you say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
What would make you say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Its just a friendly. England are using a lot of different players these days. Ok, their won’t be a crowd, certainly no Irish fans I assume. Just easier all round if the two lads didn’t show for this relatively meaningless game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I have no doubt both will push to play and kiss the badge if they score.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
A couple of points if I may:
1. Seeding : Pointless friendly especially considering that it may affect our seedings for the world cup draw.
2. Rats & Ghoulish : Will they play? Me thinks there will be a lot itchy trigger feet amoungst the current Irish squad.
3. Poppy : Its the day after armistice...will the team be requested to wear it?
Oh yeah, forgot about the poppy sh1te. Makes it worse again.
I might start McClean in the game just for that( I wouldnt be upset to see him get 2 yellow cards for 2 hard tackles either)
I know but they will make them play, will pressure on that as well,Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
the 70's are always coming back.
politics and soccer/football are the two sides of the same coin.
Thats the scenario I think this Kenny guy is a bit of naive, he may cheapen our national team in twenty days from today, plus he may place his head in the guillotine
not a chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
I reckon the FA and even Southgate are too clever to allow that to happen. As i said England are playing a lot of players at the moment. The two lads will not be playing in the Irish game I suspect !Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
To be honest about it England could put out a very weak team against Ireland at the moment and still expect to do well !
Thats how the english operate things, can they make the irish wear the poppy symbol for the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
eire republic vs england is never a friendly
it is like argentina vs brazil or holland vs germany, those are classic football matches.
Argentina vs england is never a friendly neither
Get yer mates to invade the Falklands ~ that’ll learn them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
But Kenny is the manager! His final call.Quote:
Originally Posted by eekers
we will never recover those islands and now less chance since they have found oil, you know. The pilgrims there are just as victims as our peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
For fear of fan reaction all the booingQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
If we can't break our scoring duct against a team with Jordan Pickford in goal and Harry Maguire in defence then Kenny may aswell pack it in the following morning.
LOL......Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
i checked on twitter the english are promoting this grudge match with Declan Rice in an irish shirt
Good, you can post the tweets from English twitter users saying this, and if you don't I'll give you an infraction for an unproven allegationQuote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
Unfortunately I think you're right. I do hope Coleman is back fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
I'm trying to think who would be the worst English striker that would be guaranteed a place in our starting XI. I think we'd be looking down the divisions. And the same in quite a few positions.
Surely Rice will be too ashamed of himself to line out in this game? He'll fake an injury or something?
Hopefully James McClean shows him how much it means to be Irish when you’re from the bogsideQuote:
Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA
Can’t see Rice or Grealish playing. It would be just too provocative. England have plenty of options and plenty of other game to play them and its only a meaning;ess friendly. Why would they play them in a meaningless friendly ?
Surely the poppy thing won’t be an issue, it is not a domestic English game, it is an international friendly and there will be no expectation that a visiting nation wear a poppy.
Correct me if I’m wrong as my memory on it is far from clear but previously when The FA had the set to with FIFA which result in them wearing poppy armbands I don’t believe the opposition that night wore a poppy?
Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979Good, you can post the tweets from English twitter users saying this, and if you don't I'll give you an infraction for an unproven allegationQuote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
That's not an English twitter user, and nowhere does it say this is a grudge matchQuote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
RE: The poppy, I thought this was going to be a non-issue based on my understanding of the etiquette in Canada (worn up to November 11). Is the poppy worn beyond that in the UK?
Should there be poppies and James present, it would indeed be very very freaky should Sky Sports enhance the audio with boos and the racist abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I remember a lot of those times we were robbed. We had fabulous players galore. I actually think our team in the early 80s was possibly better than what Jack had. I find it incredible how little Whelan for one is mentioned in the running for our greatest 11s. A rolls royce of a player in one of the greatest club sides of all time and a stalwart of Liverpool for well over a decade, when they were majestic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
The thing is our current team has a generally solid keeper, a decent defence, a lot of piano movers in midfield and no current goalscorers. I like McGoldrick and he offers something but he isn't going to bag 7-8 goals over a campaign. We have no world class players or anything close. We have two very good premier league players in Doherty and Coleman whose best position is the same. We have a few good premier league players to be fair.
We have a very bright future imo. The numbers of excellent young players coming through makes me think that we will have a very good team in about 4 years. It's not hard to qualify for a euros these days so lets use the next campaign to get them ready for the 2024 campaign which I would expect us to qualify for.
The teams of yesteryear with the quality of the players needed to go after qualification. This team needs to give it's all and show big improvements over the next two years. If it does that I'll be happy.
If Connolly could be tutored a little to relax in front of goal he might be our rough diamond striker. Reminds me of how Sterling would need 4 chances before scoring one, then someone got a hold of him and taught him to score. What Ireland need is a forwards coach. Maybe apply some old fashioned training methods, like play with a lighter ball, or use a softer ball, (ball with some air let out) to improve touch.
With a full Irish squad, no injuries or Covid 'outees' we will give England a game, my reading being England want a runout and are less concerned about the result.
Don't make any plans, I think Kenny will be on the buzzer to you when he hears of your ingenious training methods. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrufil
Ive been thinking about this game this morning and rather than look at it negatively like I had been there might be some positives.
If we just take the game on its merits and forget all the other crap I dont think England will hammer us as some people are saying. I would have much rather a "smaller" team that we could pick up a win from but we always raise our game against England. When does any one remember them giving us a hiding? We all know about the big games like in 88 etc, but I have a very specific memory of the 1995 game that was abandoned. We had so many injuries in the squad that on the morning of the game I remember my father suggesting that we might not travel to Dublin for it because there was no point. For the half hour or so that was actually played we were great and we all know what happened after David Kelly put us into the lead. My point is though that we raised our game massively that night, even with basically a B team.
The players wont fear the English players as they play against them every week. Player for player they are better than us, but we've been in that situation plenty of times. What better time for Kenny to get a great result and get the general public on board. Realistically I wouldnt be betting any money on us winning the game but I'd be very confident of putting in a great performance and see where that brings us.
I really don't fancy playing this mob at so low an ebb. It's just a really bad idea.
If ever there were a time for a friendly against Oman, it's now.
For the month of November usually. It's a serious agenda and the English FA are very keen to roll out the military at any given opportunityQuote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
It's actually a Canadian institution, originally, later imported into the UK. What was once a simple mark of respect for, in the main, working-class British and Irish men conscripted into a war that was largely futile, and hugely barbaric - a disgraceful waste of human life - has now taken an unfortunate and rather sinister turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
It's now a jingoistic and rather tacky event, ever increasing in timescale and scope, and something that, if I were I a footballer, I would refuse to have any part in.
Actually Kenny used an old fashioned idea for one of the corners in the last Irish game. I would term it 'a double/treble cross'. Pass the ball to the opposite edge of the box, over players heads, pass ball back to corner taker who then crosses to attackers in box. This has the effect of turning the opposition twice, while the Irish players stay in the correct position to receive the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA
Old move but it nearly paid off.
Too many players hitting the ball over the crossbar early in games? It comes down to an energy rush, they will always hit it harder in an actual match than in training. They need a type of 'softness' order, via mind training to get into the habit of underhitting the ball early in games.
Kenny give me a call if yer stuck, we'll bate them old Swinging Chariots and take their wheels home with us.
Timing is a valid issue against this game happening but if it is to be played, best to have it as the first game. The game v Wales doesn't matter if Bulgaria (a pot 5 team) are beaten.
The game will be played in an almost empty stadium, not a poppy or abusive jingoists in view.
Kenny can use the game to the benefit of the team. It's England and if you don't want an Ireland v England game to happen in some shape because of a fear of getting beaten then there is no reply to that because there is no sense to it.
Yes but attitude doesnt fix it, we have no dangerous dribblers like Frank Stapleton nor a Tony Galvin out and out marauding winger as stubburn and as good as old Tony, we are gonna get mauled by the english this time,Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
My point is Kenny plays it openly, thats very easy to attack,
no attendance some no pressure factor for them, it is easy to perform, with flair players like mount, maddison, grealish, sterling, kane, foden and rice
They have 3 times at least our very best eleven players at the highest level, (randolph, coleman, egan, clark, stevens, doherty, mccarthy, hendrick, brady, mcgoldrick, connolly.) r it is just too much to ask.
The difference is notorious and outrageous. 4-0 or 5-1 for the Empire.
The only chance is playing it tight, all men behind the ball under this circunstances , go for a low key defeat, 2-0. Bad timing.
Ban this idiot ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
that's a bit defeatist. its a decent opportunity to maybe kickstart the SK era. we don't concede many goals so I am not overly concerned about us. we cant just hide in the corner and avoid challenges like this. our football history is littered with decent friendly results against the oddsQuote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20