I wasn't there, I have no evidence to blame any one particular group. The thing is, Ollie Byrne has no evidence either, so he shouldn't be blaming anyone eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl
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I wasn't there, I have no evidence to blame any one particular group. The thing is, Ollie Byrne has no evidence either, so he shouldn't be blaming anyone eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl
I saw that quote in yesterday's Examiner and thought it was an April fools joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
To call for a club to be thrown out of the league because a small number of its people wearing its jersey may have been involved in a relatively minor incident (nobody charged as far as I can make out) is a joke.
What is the point of these comments from Ollie?
Post up the quote there where he says he wants Rovers out of the league because of people in Rovers jersies were involved in a minor incident.Quote:
Originally Posted by paudie
A chance he might get his hands on a ground in Tallaght?....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by paudie
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To call for a club to be thrown out of the league because a small number of its people wearing its jersey may have been involved in a relatively minor incident (nobody charged as far as I can make out) is a joke.
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NO ROVERS SHIRTS INVOLVED. END OF DISCUSSION!!!
this friday the examiner annnounces who, if anyone, takes over rovers. oily getting a bit worried that an english insurance millionaire will pump silly amounts of cash in and challenge shels?
answer, have them thrown out on a pack of lies.
no chance. we will sue
And you know that Ollie Byrne has no information for sure? You can say that for a 100% fact? And if so, how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
I await publication with interest.... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl
When he was asked for it on Newstalk last night he clammed up by all accounts. If he has the proof, out with itQuote:
Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl
I'll repeat for the hard of hearing in the Drumcondra area - Ollie had ZERO proof, just his usual bluster and bullshít. Dave Carpenter from the 400 Club took time out to actually talk to the relevant parties - the Gardai and the security firm in charge of security in the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
No contest on the evidence front and unless Ollie comes up with something more than hearsay he can expect to hear from our solicitors very soon.
Any chance that our imminent announcement of a multi-millionaire owner has Ollie's knickers in a twist? That and the fact that his rubbish team blew €150,000 on Saturday night?
KOH
All the dublin clubs are ultimately chasing the same supporters & player pool with goal of making CL first so no surprise Ollie or any other cluib official would feel threatened by other success or potential.
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Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl
we arent the ones making the allegations. burden of proof is on him.
and as it happens the gardai and security firm agree with us that the trouble was not caused by rovers fans. but thats not the point
So your proof that it's untrue is as followsQuote:
Originally Posted by Éanna
1) A radio show that you didn't hear talking about it.
2) An incident prior to a match that you were not at to comment as to if it did or didn't happen in any way, shape or form.
3) A man who you hate said what you don't want to hear.
4) A few posts of support off the internet.
5) Ollies Byrne's past, which has scant connection to what went down.
6) Some post on this forum to say that it didn't happen (Funny you didn't ask said members to identify themselves).
Eanna, if you really want to know Ollie's side of it, pick up the phone, ring (01) 8375536 and ask for Ollie Byrne himself. Contrary to popular belief, he is very approachable to people and within reason, he will deal with queries regards to Shels. As you said yourself, "Out with it" :)
I couldn't care less what Olly, you or anyone here has said, that statement there is plain untrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
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Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl
its not up to eanna to prove oily is telling the truth or not, its up to oily to back up his allegations. he hasnt so far, presumably because he cant. he clammed up very lively on newstalk when asked to back up the statement made.
we arent taking the blame for something we didnt do, especially when olly has threatened our existance as a result of the incident. the timing of this stinks to high heaven.
as for the rovers shirts, there was a pile of press photos taken, see the rovers ultras forum for a selection. not one rovers shirt there. unless you were a witness slash/ed, id let it go.
as i said earlier, i believe legal advice is being sought about this whole pathetic saga.
I wasn't a witness to the attacks but was a witness to the eejits who Olly ejected out of the ground and it was obvious from that alone they were there only to cause trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
I'd be interested to hear Fintan Cassidy's comments on this after he's read the thread!
Personally I think it is a disgrace for the supporter's club of an eircom league team to be firing out statements accusing people of something that they haven't conclusive proof of.
Then people wonder why so many people in the eircom League feel a certain degree of contempt for Oily and co!
so you didn't witness the non existant rovers shirts either?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
i'll give shels fans one thing, they are loyal to the party line!!!
im bored of this topic now, everyone who has posted here except the shels fans has seen through this for what it was, a cynical attempt by representitives of sfc to kick rovers when they were down. will not be forgotten
Dig your head in the sand if you want and pretend you don't have a problem and hope it'll just go away.
This thread summed in the words of a Shels fanQuote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
Carpenter, sounds like a lier
Superindent, well known spoofer
Head of Security, sure their always lying
We love you Ollie and the Shels Lapdog SC, you could never be wrong... Ever. FACT ! :rolleyes:
Reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons where they get brainwashed by the Leader..... Anyone got any hover bikes ?? Seemed to work on one set of kids :cool:
I can't find when Eanna said he didn't hear the interview (open to correction).. And funny enough, I couldn't get thru to oily earlier....Quote:
Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl
I dont have time to read the whole thread .... so whats the deal ???
Shels fans clashed with Linfield fans and Ollie tried to get the meaja of the trail by saying it was Shams fans instead !!
No Shels fans clashed with Linfield fans.
you have spectacularly managed to miss the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
when we act the ******, we take it on the chin. did any rovers fan deny those buses got smashed up 2 seasons ago? or the shed getting taken etc.?
no. because, despite some media hysterics and exaggeration, rovers fans were involved. we do have a more, ahem, militant, set of fans than anyone else in ireland, and have been involved in some silliness.
so why would we be going so ape over what seemed to not even be a schmozzle?
because this is a malicious attempt by ollie byrne to damage the club when we are vunerable. that is despicible, and legal action is a definite possibility. he made a kn.ob of himself and a laughing stock of your club.
but stick to that party line, it might get you some free smokes
But didn't someone see Shels fans after they clashed with them ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
The Shels fans said it themselves to the on-looker !!
Were they making it up ?? ..... I mean whats up with that like ??
I think you're reading too much into it, it was an attempt by him to stop the media reports that it was Shels fans involved. He didn't have to mention that it was Rovers fans and definitely didn't come out of it looking too well, he shouldn't have said what he said but you're reading too much into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
If that's true than fair enough but nothing I've read has said that Shels fans were involved in any trouble even on the Linfield forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
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Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Thats settled then !! ;) :p
Does this mean they had Celtiic OR Rovers jerseys?Quote:
We have received numerous reports from many of our supporters who witnessed these attacks on the Linfield fans, by thugs wearing the green & white hooped shirts of Shamrock Rovers or Scottish club Celtic FC.
You cannot make comments like that casting dirt in direction of a certain clubs without ever suggesting have any proof. Thats just like saying saw a person in red football jersey in fight on Richmond Road.
Shelbourne are a disgrace to the league. Once again fans backing Oily 100% without hint of criticism.
:rolleyes:
Ah, so what your saying is that this time, it wasn't Rovers fans? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Roverstillidie
Mind you, SRFC said it was a minority that took the shed at the time. As Father Crilly once said "Only 5% of priests have been found guilty of child molesting". lmao
The funny issue about all of this is that nobody seems to be addressing the issue that Ollie Byrne may well actually have this evidence he speaks about; ie the chance that heaven forbid, it could well be so. If say John Phelan or Finbar Flood had have stated it on Newstalk and not Ollie, would there be any uproar? Somehow I doubt it.
BTW I never said Eanna heard the show, he did howevercomment on the show without hearing it's content though which was my point. Just to clarify that point.
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Originally Posted by pete
Was there ?? .... when was this ?, well what can i say ..... i mean, are any of us really suprised ?? .... :eek:
:p
NO advocating any violence by any stretch of the imagination, but why SHels fans would want to be seen 'welcoming' the blues 'fans' and watching the English FA Cup final is beyond me..
they were deathly silent during the game.. and even when the linfield 'fans' were shouting their bigoted ****e and making noises at Ndo they said nothing at all and sat on their ****ing hands..
an embarrassment to the eL...
p.s the Sunday Mirror had a full page match report of the Setanta Cup final..
mentioned the linfield fans' racist chants too i think.. didnt see this is many other papers...
What about the group of fans that were boasting they'd won a scrap to Cosmo - two of them were wearing Shels tops...Quote:
Originally Posted by Slash/ED
Suppose that was them bad Rovers fans in disguise :rolleyes:
Whats he waiting for to produce this evidence? He's getting hammered about what he says and he still won't produce this mystical evidence - or is he still working on it? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl
What did the Star do ? Aren't they the official paper of the competition (whatever that actually means...) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsyfella
'If that's true than fair enough but nothing I've read has said that Shels fans were involved in any trouble even on the Linfield forum.'
It's 100% true. I wasn't going to bring it up until I saw the shels were blaming it ALL on rovers/ Celtic and saying that NO shels supporters were involved in anything. Actually if he had've just said that no shels supporters were involved and kept rovers out of it I'd never have mentioned it as I think rovers supporters are getting a very raw deal here.
I don't like bringing up handbags stuff that doesn't deserve any attention but I wanted to point that it is incorrect to say that there were no incidents involving shels supporters (even though it was only 2) and it was only rovers fans involved!!
(btw that group that were in the drumcondra end that people were talking about - I was sitting maybe 10 seats from them and I only saw ONE lad with a rovers jersey on - the rest were celtic or no team colours)
The statement from the Shelbourne supporters is beneath contempt. Ollie Byrne has proved once more what a pathetic individual he is. He is a loudmouth thug who will go to any lengths to get his way.
The fact that national newspapers would print his outburst without questioning it is a sad reflection on the Irish media. Gerry McDermott should be ashamed.
Ollie Byrne is attempting to have us thrown out of senior football and is using our club as a scapegoat when trouble flared. (Of course, all his outburst did was get huge media coverage about fighting at Irish games, coverage which wouldn't have happened without his ludicrious comments because there was actually bugger all of a fight. Nice one Ollie, yet again you have the interests of Irish football at heart.)
As for the Shels supporters, that statement was just pathetic. Not even worth commenting on.
I just hope supporters of all other EL clubs look back on this sort of behaviour when Shels come to play in Europe. With any luck Shels will be dumped out in the first round, thus inflicting terminal financial damage on a club who have yet to explain how they are making up a deficit of at least 20k a week.
We've all addressed the issue of evidence except for Ollie and his little lapdogs AKA Shels fans. When Dave Carpenter went to the trouble of getting this evidence he was slagged off by Ollie's lapdogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shedendinvisibl
We're still waiting for Ollie and his evidence - according to one of our lads when he rang Shels Ollie said he knew the individuals involved, it was the same people who started the fire at the cup final. The world and his mother knows that fire was started by a steward's carelessly disgarded fag butt.
Ollie is talking rubbish and libellous rubbish at that. It's time you kids woke up to him and started thinking and talking for yourselves. The lack of a fan culture at Shels is one of the main reasons the rest of us are laughing at you and until you stop doing Ollie's work for him we won't take you seriously.
KOH
Actually i love the way there are pages of posts of eL fans all slagging each other when the majortiy of the blame should go directly on Sell-Thick fans .... the foreign Sell-Thick supporters clubs that are based in Dublin should be made answer for this ... it is them who are obviously organising all of this trouble !!
Ollie was wrong .... but any smoke that was there (if any) should all directly go back to Sell-Thick fans ..... they always cause any trouble so why shouldn't they be ones being demonised !!