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Originally Posted by sbgawa
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How did the big club get on?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Who ? Killester?Quote:
Originally Posted by Park_Lane
Good team Killester! Wouldn't of bent over as quickly as the peoples club did tonight!Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Aaron Greene now joint second top scorer in the league, which I think makes him the sole top scorer from open play. Funny how perception works isn't it that this season Greene has been widely considered to be a poor finisher while Hoban is still considered to be very clinical. So is this perception wrong or are Rovers just carving teams open so much more often than Dundalk that Greene has more opportunities to miss?
Jack Byrne with two great goals and Cory Galvin with a belter too. Thomas Oluwa got his first senior goal too to top off a great night's work.
Yep, losing to Killester much more impressive than losing to Dundalk 😁 then again, you'd know - on both counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Park_Lane
"The Cup Specialists" LOL
Ah we all know the boez are the real cup specialists! They just don't do semis.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Anyway relax you still have the coveted choccy mallow trophy to concentrate on! Think of all those hipster aways days to Mull of Kintyre FC and Dog and Duck Athletic! Chin up!!
We just do derbies 😁 or as Bradser calls them “cup FINALS”Quote:
Originally Posted by Park_Lane
Hoban scored four from open play tonight to be fair. He's had a poor season by his own standards but he's still got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
seen it in the sun today for a poor season from him he has scored 19 goals or so. thats a hell of a good season imo considering the stick he gets!Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Cant agree with that being the assessment of Hoban's form this season. From debating whether the contract issues were affecting his form to the much maligned European campaign where 'a more clinical striker' was needed to take us to the next level, there has been plenty of discussion on this season's form compared to last. What has kept him first choice striker is is all round play, especially holding the ball up and creating chances for others. He always had goals in him but want being clinical. Maybe last night has got the monkey off his back and he goes on a run of scoring form! Would you swap him for Greene?Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Apparently his 50th goal in all competitions since the start of last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Odds on to be the leagues top scorer again this season.
We cant count the refereeing conspircay thats put Hoban top of the scoring charts and us top of the table - sure the 200 penos given at the box cant be counted, well not by RH anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
misspost
Open Play League Goals
Greene 11
Parkhouse 10
Parkes 8
Uzokwe 8
Dinny 7
Byrne 7
Duffy 7
McEneff 6
Hoban 6
Mandriou 6
I think it is reasonable to exclude penos when judging a player as goalscoring records can look way better over the course of a career if massaged by penos.
The Peter Crouch podcast (which is beyond brilliant for anyone who hasn't discovered it) had an episode on penos and Peter Crouch was lamenting that he took very few penos as he never pushed forward and was saying there were people ahead of him in the goal-scoring charts who were not as good strikers.
Hoban is a good striker who is having a poor run of form it happens, i don't watch enough Dundalk games to know what else he contributes.
Greene kept his place at the beginning of he season for the work he was doing to create stuff for others, when people were complaining about the chances he was misisng he was one of the most effective players on the pitch for us, its nice to see him getting a few goals now to top off the good workrate. The screamer he scored against Appolon seems to have given him a confidence boost and strikers feed on confidence, Hobans cup goals may give him the lift he needs
Hoban is ( by far) the best proven striker in the league. Apart from his finishing, his ability to win ball and keep possession makes room for other attacking players . Can`t really understand why it didn`t work out for him in the lower leagues. I would be surprised if Dundalk don`t offer him a new contract
I'm sure they already have but he is holding out for either more money or a longer contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
I can't see him anywhere other than Dundalk next season
It's interesting to look at the goals from open play stat, but why would pens be excluded when judging a goal scoring record? Because they're too easy? In that case should we exclude tap ins? Goals against UCD?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Other exclusions that may give a fairet reflection of ability:
Maybe also excluding goals scored from free kicks? Tap ins? Goals scored against teams with 10 men? Goals against UCD in the second half of the season? Goals scored against teams after they are relegated?
What about cup games?
I guess clubs tend to have designated penalty takers, so if, say, Rovers get a penalty, Greene might be explicitly told he's not taking it, which makes it different to a goal from outfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Both stats are relevant though I think.
I think its generally accepted that penos are a bit of a gimme and pad out some players goals totals.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
For tap in's you have to be there (Gary Lineker springs to mind) for goals against UCD.......thats just mean :)
I could suggest a reason but it might open up the Graham Burke debate again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Couldn`t adapt to being a smalll fish in a big pond? Absence of Tayto ( not the northern muck), Kearns Sausages, Downs Cake shop, Williams Jam?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Just not good enough?
Might just be Loft
A Scottish caddie told me the problem with my golf game (having missed a green that he informed me was almost 3 quarters of an acre in size) was Loft.
I looked at my club and wondered how i could correct the Loft at which point he told me Loft was him being polite my problem was Lack Of Fucking Talent
Just not an English sort of hatstand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
I don't know why it didn't work out for him in England, but I am certainly glad he came back to DundalkQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Although he offers a lot more than simply scoring goals, his goal scoring rate in this league is outstanding
In 3 full seasons at Dundalk he has scored 63 league goals, while earlier this season he set a new club record of 70 league goals when he scored in April in the 2-1 win over Shamrock Rovers.
I think it likely that he will end at the top of the Premier Division goal scoring charts again this season for the 4th time in his 4 seasons (jointly with Christy Fagan in 2014).
He may not have the pace that is required to cut it at the highest levels, but he certainly is well ahead of any striker currently playing in this league
I thought it was because he was too good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
How dare you undermine Pat Hoban (and my post) with mere stats!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
There is some amount of fun listening on the Crouch podcast but at times its like listening to a bunch of kids with an old tape recorder acting the maggot!
Yeah I agree i think they have started to believe they are entertaining in their own rite as opposed to it being interesting listening to Peter crouch talk about the minutia of life as a professional footballer...some of the behind the scenes stuff that we never hear about is really interesting. Listening to him sometimes makes me realise the loi isn't that different to the premier league just the money is different, people are the same we just don't get access to the premier league players.
I'm bringing a 9 year old neighbours son to the rovers match on Friday, he is dressed constantly in a Liverpool jersey , can name off the whole team but he told me he has NEVER been in a football stadium....sad but true.
Hope drogs oblige and roll over the kid thinks I'm this harmless well mannered old guy who lives up the road :)
If he was, would that make him a bowler? Appropriate enough with some of the recent cricket scores we've seen, I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
......edges quickly backwards.....'Hello, is that TUSLA' ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
The scene cuts to an emotionally charged press conference. Tearful parents struggle to express their grief. "He was just a sweet innocent 9 year old boy. Then some weird old pervert took him away from us... to see Shamrock Rovers."
Enough now boys , his Dad is coming as well €20 into the Shamrock Rovers war chest to use for Pat Hooban's signing on fee
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