Jaysus Lads, 8 points isn't insurmountable! Plus you've a guaranteed 6 against us ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
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Jaysus Lads, 8 points isn't insurmountable! Plus you've a guaranteed 6 against us ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
I'm fairly confident if I went through the crisp packet thread I could find 80% of posts by Dundalk fans were them complaining that the exact same thing couldn't have possibly been true about Maguire, Sheppard and Dooley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Breaking News DFC "Manager" and supporters think 90% of decisions were right on penos and feel they should have had more.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
In other news the Pope said he thought the bible was just about Gospel and Rovers fans feel that we are the biggest club in Ireland :)
Complain? Of course, isnt that true of all football fans! Specifically and it could have been yerself EP there was comment or debate on Maguire 'manufacturing' penalties, and example of a relatively new skill that isnt diving - its leaving a trailing foot and the like to create contact and 'win' a penalty. Sheppard in the Cup Final, for example, cutely waited for contact from Hoare and went over and the penalty was given. Hoare should have been more aware especially as Shep was heading away from goal and was waiting for any contact. As Ive said I dont think it was one of Kenny's finer moments in trying to play mind games. Im not excluding Dundalk from the same type of gamesmanship. I am suggesting that if a team is relentlessly attacking in to the box there is likely to be a higher number of penalties awarded than a team that sits deep and maybe hits on the break - this could probably result in a higher number of professional fouls to stop a break. It seems that Bohs fans have resigned themselves to there being at least 2 refs that are biased toward Dundalk. One poor decision has set that tone and not so much the sending off and Long needing a Sheperds hook for another player that is just on the pitch. There was also scorn poured on Rovers fans ascertations that poor referring sealed the result of the last Dublin Derby. Not lastnight, but there is usually a grey area of debate on refereeing in the league and that it is inconsistant, fans dont have much faith, some refs like to be in the spotlight et al and we have all been on the recieving end of the most confusing decisions. Claiming refs have favourite clubs so far this season is highly unlikely!
Slightly different style with those two wingers, and Shep was made into one, but one thing not up for argument, that was some front 3 that Cork had in 2017. Maguire obviously, but Dooley was an almost constant nuisance against Dundalk, caused us problems in most games, he was a big loss for Cork when he moved on. He did go to Coleraine, but I forgot he went over to Rochdale, hasn't seem to have featured there, is he injured I wonder ?Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Steven Beattie went-a-fishing last night. Plenty of bites too.
https://twitter.com/steven5beattie/s...230678017?s=19
I know it's said a lot that Dundalk apply a lot of pressure, have tricky wingers and a physical striker so they get a lot of penalties because that's a dangerous combination but even when you look at the likes of 2008 Man United, Real Madrid the last decade or so and Barcelona all of them would have been similar combinations of players style wise to Dundalk (Barcelona minus the physical centre forward for the most part) and dominant teams and their league penalty counts were rarely above 10 over a whole season so for Dundalk to have 10 half way through a season is a serious anomaly.
Crucial to get the three points. I thought we played ok in patches but the last half hour we disintegrated and if Derry had a decent striker we would have been punished.
Yeah, important 3 points, but Derry will feel hard done by, wth some justification. Hit the post late on. We really don't look a good side at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Derrys lack of a goalscorer has them 1 win in 8,Friday will be interesting should be a spicy affair:D!!
You Pats fans make the Rovers support look patient.
You are one point off a probable euro place and 4 off 3rd place,
You have taken 5 points off the two teams around you in your last 3 matches.
I'm starting to feel sorry for Harry.
Hes had 18 matches to stitch a complete new team together.
Total football will follow , keep the faith
Shoot - go for it!Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Maybe you could post up the results in a nice pie chart
He receives very little stick at home game most of the criticism is kept online. The grade of football dished up has been largely rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
I've said it previously that normally I would agree with this sentiment and have acted as much, but this is a particularly special circumstance.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
We just look absolutely clueless even in games that we've won. Tonight is a case in point where if I was a neutral I'd actually feel sorry for Derry, it legitimately should have been 3/4-1. We created a solitary chance all game, scored from it and then stuck 11 behind the ball at home and hoped for the best.
I'd have more time for Kenny if there was an obviously identity or style forming but it's obvious that he's been completely winging it since the start of the season. We played all pre-season with a 4-3-3, then after injuries dictated we played 3/5 at the back in the first game of the season he just abandoned all his previous work and stuck with it, even though it's clear we don't have the personnel for it to the point it restricts us every week. It's honestly unfair the expectations that are being put on Bermo and Madden, and for all his talk of believing in playing "an attractive brand of football" it's becoming more and more obvious that he doesn't know how to implement it, so we've now been reduced to hoping we can nick something off a set piece and then lump it up to Gary Shaw for the rest of the game. For the squad we have it's a bit depressing to be honest.
Got a bit fortunate tonight the Derry player had cotton bud up his nose after a challenge and for some bizarre reason was ordered by the ref to change the dressing before a corner and his marker Toner just headed it unmarked into the net , I’ll take it though.
You Placid in disguise?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
First of all, we are a very patient fan base, always have been, some would say too much at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Totally get how it looks from the outside when we give out, but its very different when you watch us week in week out. Time and time again, we look clueless, and its not just about wanting sexy bucko ball, not at all.
We have absolutely poxed results, all starting with week one against Cork.
Kenny is not developing anything there is nothing improving.
I wont last too long, but sadly long enough to waste a decent squad/budget.
What is the story with Forrester? He appears to be only playing in bits of games. He should be tearing the league up.
You imply Rovers are impatient.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Apart from the 'enough is enough' banner (while conceding 5 goals at home) and the occasional whinge here by Rovers fans, I think there has been a very passive reaction to lack of achievement over the last few years
I don’t think he is capable of tearing up a pack of tayto this season. It’s looking like we are going to have to wait long term for his signing to bear fruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
He's just not right at all, Kenny was saying at the start of the season his fitness levels were way below the rest of the squad but even now you can see there's something wrong with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
What's going on with Derry btw? A month ago in Richmond they played us off the park even before the sending off and they looked like genuine title contenders but they've fallen way off since, just missing a goal scorer or is it something else?
Their first game against us in Richmond, IMO, is probably the most impressive I have seen this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
Yeah and it's just so obvious the squad isnt made for that system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack B
He only has 3 CB, CKelly is a LB who can cover but he was signed to be 2 LB and 4CB. He has only 2 first team strikers.
And then there are many MF's who arent just getting game time because there are only 3 available spots, plus Miele and DClarke who should be wing players are disregarded because can't fit the system.
Fair enough i don't see you often enough to judge things on anything other than a points basis which isnt to bad to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by desaintsno.12
In fairness to bucko he seems to have turned things around in Sligo
In the same time period as Kenny (half a season) you could argue he has made a lot more progress in the second round of fixtures.
With a hell of a lot smaller budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
To be fair, it woudnt have been hard based on the last few seasons. But things are definitely moving in the right direction and people are starting to enjoy going to matches in the Showgies again, which is a big deal. A couple of decent signings mid season would help a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
But the Cork peons would be “ok” if John Caulfield and 90% of the Cork supporters agreed with them ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Or does that just work with Dundalk ?
There was no real complaints about Monday’s result (a deserved Dundalk win) but every Dundalk fan is still moaning !
The only performance marks I saw (Irish Sun I think) gave Regba 2/10 but the ref only got 5/10, so he was hardly great (unless media are anti Dundalk 😁)
Hardly moaning about a late and important win. The cynical time wasting throughout the match and the aggressive fouling is certainly an area of fair comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
The ref deciding not to give Reghba a second yellow on two occasions was bizarre. 5/10 was too generous for him.
I'd dare say the first game in Richmond was more a case of everything falling into place than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
We badly need a striker. We'll create any amount of chances per game, but our scoring record just isn't good enough. We could be comfortably in third position if we had that part of our game sorted.
We're due to lose Parkhouse and Junior come the end of next month, so it's bound to be our top priority in the summer transfer window.
I'd say we need to strengthen the defence too. We concede in most games, often from defenders being switched off or out of position, and when you've only scored seven in your last eight games, that's going to cost you.
where are parkhouse and junior going back to club wise?Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Definitely agree with this. As a club and a fan base we've always been very patient. Even the disaster that was Jeff K&@na didn't really get any abuse from supporters. The frustration this year ( and it is confined to online, there's been no abuse of the manager at games that I've heard) is because we looked to have signed really welll pre season, especially getting Chris Forrestor back. Whether it's the managers fault or not we have not played well, even in games we've won. We have the joint lowest amount of goals in the league, which is shocking really. Big improvement needed. The Forrestor thing is just a mystery. Apart from one moment of magic against Sligo he's been pretty much anonymous, which is a real shame when we all know how good he can be.Quote:
Originally Posted by desaintsno.12
Dundalk complaining about time wasting and aggressive fouling ? at least you kept your sense of humour :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
95th minute match winning penalty,1 red and 7 yellow cards (versus 1 home yellow) among the highest amount of 'injury time' played this season.Yes, the ref sure let Dundalk down :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by marinobohs
Dalymountrower has already comment fairly accurately on the the aggressive fouling and the resultant card count - if the ref had any bottle Reghba would have had a red too. The time wasting started after only 5 minutes
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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Yet when anyone comments on Dundalk diving, fouling etc its 'whinging' :cool: if the ref at Dalymount had any 'bottle' Dundlak would have finished with about 7/8 players, and the opening goal would not have stood (deliberate handball in build up) but hey, maybe there is a conspiracy against Dundalk, half way through the season and ONLY 10 penalties ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Sheffield United and Colchester United respectfully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Even Keith Long hasnt had such a whinge, indeed he wants Bohs to be more like Dundalk so more diving and fouling can be expected from Bohs kids "That's experience, that's know-how"!Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
He'd get fined if he told the truth about the sheer number of decisions that went your way in the three games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Kelly is a CB who can cover at LB. Played 28 games at CB and 3 at LB for Drogheda last season.