Denmark V Republic of Ireland - Copenhagen - 7th June 2019 - Euro 2020 Qualifier

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Originally Posted by joe_denilson

Not aiming this at anyone as I'm as guilty as anyone, but could we, and only if everyone agrees, could we focus squad announcement match threads about the people in the actual squad?

Maybe have another catch all thread about squad omissions, that would actually be interesting to read back on, after some more devolment has happening in there career.

In the current squad we have have some interesting and deserved call ups that go under the radar because there's a natural curiosity about who's been omitted.

Does McDermott merit a call up?
Should K Long be ahead of Lenihan for example?
Who's likely to start in CM?

Anyway just an idea,

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I don’t know — I think there’s room to discuss both those players included and those excluded. Certainly in the context of — okay — so and so is included, but X player we feel is better is out — why? Much of our talk over the years has centred on talented players not playing for us — Roy Keane, Stephen Ireland, Andy Reid — the players that should be playing but aren’t — a popular topic wherever football is discussed the world over.

In the interests of getting this back on topic I am concerned about our goalkeeping depth in the short term here. Could be dicey in those June matches if anything were to happen to Randolph. Other options untested at the top level.

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Originally Posted by joe_denilson

Not aiming this at anyone as I'm as guilty as anyone, but could we, and only if everyone agrees, could we focus squad announcement match threads about the people in the actual squad?

Maybe have another catch all thread about squad omissions, that would actually be interesting to read back on, after some more devolment has happening in there career.

In the current squad we have have some interesting and deserved call ups that go under the radar because there's a natural curiosity about who's been omitted.

Does McDermott merit a call up?
Should K Long be ahead of Lenihan for example?
Who's likely to start in CM?

Anyway just an idea,

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"everyone agrees" you can't be serious?:)
I very much doubt if it would work to have two threads about the one squad and it's not as if the one match thread is so over-subscribed that it gets clogged up. When it gets closer to the actual game, the discussion naturally becomes more focused on the squad at hand.

Alan Browne out with an injury. He's having no luck for Ireland.

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Originally Posted by Olé Olé

Alan Browne out with an injury. He's having no luck for Ireland.

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I have a terrible feeling. His international career will be a let down for him. It's just not happening for him

Will it be a 23 man squad for the games?with Alan Browne out that leaves 2 to be cut from the training squad named. One will surely be a defender long or Cunningham I suppose. I would prob keep connell and drop curtis

With Connell now out, why not promote Ronan from the Under 21s?

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

With Connell now out, why not promote Ronan from the Under 21s?

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Defo. He might do that very thing after today's training match against the u21s

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Originally Posted by Diggs246

Defo. He might do that very thing after today's training match against the u21s

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Mick might look to play all the under-21s after they beat the senior squad in todays training match..

Any idea what the line-ups were? Or did everyone get a run at some stage?

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Any idea what the line-ups were? Or did everyone get a run at some stage?

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https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/repo...s-u-21-victory

Conor Kearns is praised. Jack Taylor scored twice. Can't find much in the line of line-ups but there's a picture on a fan page on Facebook with Long, Curtis, Hogan and Robinson all in the wall for the seniors. And another of Cullen sliding in for a challenge with a lad I'm not sure of. And another of McGoldrick holding off Dara O'Shea.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...84073&sfnsn=mo

Danish squad announced

and the Gibraltar squad

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Originally Posted by Olé Olé

https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/repo...s-u-21-victory

Conor Kearns is praised. Jack Taylor scored twice. Can't find much in the line of line-ups but there's a picture on a fan page on Facebook with Long, Curtis, Hogan and Robinson all in the wall for the seniors. And another of Cullen sliding in for a challenge with a lad I'm not sure of. And another of McGoldrick holding off Dara O'Shea.

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Cheers. That's about all I could find as well.

Shane long out of both games

Whether for good or bad Ericsson did not have a good champions league final . Actually I would say a bad game for him .

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Originally Posted by Diggs246

Shane long out of both games

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Crikey, that's four gone home injured... from a training camp! Did Mick pick a car park for training again?!

Any team predictions? probably something similar to what started v Georgia seeing that Shane Long is out. In that event McGoldrick should retain his place.
I hope he's good at grabbing possession of the high lofted ball :)
There's no way Whelan (if selected) or anybody else will be given the space and time received from the Georgians.

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Originally Posted by geysir

Any team predictions? probably something similar to what started v Georgia seeing that Shane Long is out. In that event McGoldrick should retain his place.
I hope he's good at grabbing possession of the high lofted ball :)
There's no way Whelan (if selected) or anybody else will be given the space and time received from the Georgians.

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I would have callum Robinson on the pitch ahead of Brady anyway

My guess is he'll pretty much start the same side who played against Georgia.

I'd be tempted to play Brady ahead of Stevens at left-back (Brady should theoretically give us something from set-pieces) and Robinson out wide (or O'Dowda) although that would be a little harsh on Stevens.

Centre-mid is bereft of options with McCarthy, Arter, Browne all unavailable. I wouldn't be surprised if Cullen was used at some point.

For once I actually think central mid isn’t our most pressing problem. I think all 3 of Hourihane, Hendrick and Whelan seem to have rediscovered some confidence and purpose under Mick. Hourihane said something like “I now know what my role is” in Tuesday’s papers! I’d say given the resources available Cullen may well see some game time tomorrow. There’ll be a lot of miles run by our guys.

There is one prevailing fear, both Hourihane and Hendrick know how to disappear if they do that, we are in hot water baby

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Originally Posted by Diggs246

There is one prevailing fear, both Hourihane and Hendrick know how to disappear if they do that, we are in hot water baby

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Hendrick has proven he can be a difference maker at major tournaments and Hourihane has played a key role in his club's promotion to the Premier League. Both have an eye for goal. Assuming they have a holding midfielder behind them (Whelan), or Hourihane is deployed in a holding role with clear instructions, I think we'll be OK. But while Mick played the two together against Gibraltar I don't think he'd ever put those two in a two man midfield against a proper team -- and that was part of the problem before IMO.

Trying to think positively here!

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

For once I actually think central mid isn’t our most pressing problem. I think all 3 of Hourihane, Hendrick and Whelan seem to have rediscovered some confidence and purpose under Mick. Hourihane said something like “I now know what my role is” in Tuesday’s papers! I’d say given the resources available Cullen may well see some game time tomorrow. There’ll be a lot of miles run by our guys.

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Optimistically, you're right and we see all three do well (as they did against Georgia).

A negative take would be, you have Glen Whelan who is 35 years old, who was criminally at fault for the Villa - West Brom goal in the playoff semi and isn't able to cut it at this level, least of all against Eriksson and at this age is an accident waiting to happen. Then you have Hourihane who despite his club form has had just one good game at international level. And then you've got Hendrick who hasn't played well for Ireland since Euro 16. And your only option from the bench is Josh Cullen who has yet to make his international debut...

It'll probably be somewhere between the two.

As for the rest of the side (assuming the same starting 11), you have a good keeper, 4 good centre halves, 2 good fullbacks with Doherty on the bench - and in terms of a front three, there are plenty of options with Robinson, Maguire, O'Dowda and Hogan all exciting options to replace McGoldrick, Brady and McClean. To be honest, just one more player and I'd feel more confident in terms of midfield, you're only a pre-game warm up injury or early injury away from things looking very patchy.

I was at all of the home U21 qualifiers in the last campaign and Rice obviously stood out a mile, apart from that, none of Cullen, Manning, Kinsella or Charsley looked the finished article. They all had good games and good moments and I wouldn't write off any of them, but until I've seen him do it, I'd think Cullen playing against Denmark would be a big step-up to make...

In the scheme of things with Denmark grabbing a draw in Switzerland, it puts some deal of pressure on us to get a point. I see Denmark's manager did not consider that his players were disrespecting the Irish lads with their disparaging comments, perhaps thought we were fair game for them.
It's unusual for the top players in one team to be so upfront with their arrogance before a game, regardless of the gulf in class between said teams. And it's not as if Denmark are blazing a technically gifted trail in European football, currently they're 2nd division.

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Originally Posted by geysir

In the scheme of things with Denmark grabbing a draw in Switzerland, it puts some deal of pressure on us to get a point.

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Yeah, some people saw a draw in that game as a good result for us but I was annoyed to be honest, not as bad but reminded me of when Sweden came from four goals down to draw in Berlin. The jackpot would have been one of Switz/Den getting six points from those two matches. That was always unlikely though and I suppose the worst case scenario would've been one win each, which at least can't happen now.

Mick on occasion throws in a curve ball into the team selection or carry some subterfuge scenario in the days leading up (with questionable effect on the day), not quite on the same level as the Allies' dummy preparations to land on Calais on DDay.
If he were to do something for this game, perhaps Brady is dispensable and we could see a return of the Matt and Seamus duo on the right side.

Is there any website to reliably watch Ireland matches on-demand, after they air? Not always realistic to watch live when you’re living in different time zones.

For a competitive European game that’s getting a decent amount of broadcast coverage, this site is prob the best I’ve found, but not a sure bet by any stretch. As ireland games go though, I’d say a decent chance (50/50) this one may make cut there:

https://hdmatches.com/

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Originally Posted by boysingreen

Is there any website to reliably watch Ireland matches on-demand, after they air? Not always realistic to watch live when you’re living in different time zones.

For a competitive European game that’s getting a decent amount of broadcast coverage, this site is prob the best I’ve found, but not a sure bet by any stretch. As ireland games go though, I’d say a decent chance (50/50) this one may make cut there:

https://hdmatches.com/

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Game v Denmark tonight is on ESPN News if you are in NYC - you chould check the ESPN3 and ESPN+ packages - the Euro qualifiers could be on demand on those platforms. Sub is about $5-$10 per month.

Football highlights on reddit usually has links to full games: https://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights

Great shout - thanks!

I have an ESPN+ subscription, and they do show the odd Euro qualifier. I checked it before you mentioned, but it’s on ESPNews, not ESPN+, so I thought I was out of luck. However, I discovered that if I log-in with my brother’s cable TV info, I can access ESPNews content on demand as well. Happy days.

Reddit is another great shout. Know they’re the go-to for live streams, but never poked around for full replays. Will def check out. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by geysir

In the scheme of things with Denmark grabbing a draw in Switzerland, it puts some deal of pressure on us to get a point. I see Denmark's manager did not consider that his players were disrespecting the Irish lads with their disparaging comments, perhaps thought we were fair game for them.
It's unusual for the top players in one team to be so upfront with their arrogance before a game, regardless of the gulf in class between said teams. And it's not as if Denmark are blazing a technically gifted trail in European football, currently they're 2nd division.

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Ya this annoys me, their arrogance you had mortensen or whatever his name is, I dont know cos I'm not familiar cos he plays with some championship team saying how you can change the manager but not the players. full strength Irish team and given the strength of the premier league there really isn't that much difference, Eriksen excepted. But that's Scandanavians to a T, overplaying themselves all the time. And the Danish are the worst offenders.

The only one bar Eriksen who worried me in all the games I saw live was sisto as his running off the ball was causing us all sorts of problems and freeing up space for others. And hes not in the squad this time around.

Keep Eriksen quiet; keep Denmark quiet. We can hopefully grab a score draw.

If we did win. They would have an awful lot of catching up to do

Any line ups yet?

According to LiveScore app, Doherty starts on the right

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Originally Posted by Fixer82

According to LiveScore app, Doherty starts on the right

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He’s on the bench.

https://twitter.com/faireland/status...857261569?s=21

Same as team v Georgia as far as I can recall.

Thought O'Dowda or Robinson would be worthy of a spot on one of the flanks based on the Georgia game. Brady was unfit against Georgia but hasn't been playing much. The role didn't appear to suit McClean against Georgia.

Nicely fired up for this game, so far in the opening minutes