Oops my bad, brain took a while to warm up this morning. Point still stands about the second quote though to insist Pats fans must have done something to bring the attack upon themselves is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by CityRebel
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Oops my bad, brain took a while to warm up this morning. Point still stands about the second quote though to insist Pats fans must have done something to bring the attack upon themselves is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by CityRebel
Haven't read the whole thread but I'm sure people are picking up on this after his wonder goal but you're kind of right. Wouldn't say he was lost but it's definitely going to take him a while to figure out who he can link up best with etc. He was literally all over the midfield. Think he started to link up very well with McEleney before the injury. Ironically I'd suggested for a few weeks now that Murray would replace Benson in that teamQuote:
Originally Posted by eitoof
In his limited appearances to date Sean Murray has shown that he is likely to have a big impact in Dundalk's midfield. This is a seriously talented player who has great movement and drive. As his fitness improves his quality will become more apparent. Robbie Benson's injury simply means he is going to get the game time needed sooner than laterQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
It was hardly a wonder goal. Good strike from the edge of the area alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
I can't get my head around his at all. Watched it back about 10 times now to see this supposed touch by Vojic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
Of course it didn't touch Vojic it went through his leg, Vojic reaction when the goal went it in wasn't exactly celebrating as if he was claiming the goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
LOI website here still lists Boyle as the goalscorer - https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/m...M100GLVVH56HPG
Smacks of Rovers attempting to fiddle their stats for their young new striker to give him a boost hoping he becomes the new Twigg. Boyle's reply to the Rovers on twitter says it all
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Originally Posted by total hoofball
Theres another angle of it from behind the goal, 100% hits of someone but hard to tell if its Vojic or the waterford player.
His celebrations would suggest it hits him, he wouldn't leave that fans and got booked for it too.
https://www.facebook.com/travelswith...U1ODM5ODc5NTA/
When it comes to Rovers ,the glass is permanently half empty for you, TH, yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
Didn't get to the game on Friday, but going by reports Rovers were good value for their win.
A good start, and an interesting game against a Derry side full of optimism coming up next week.
This is what kept me awake on Friday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
I'd say the rovers mangt team spent ages debating who to give the goal too. Clearly huge deal ;)
one swallow does not make a summer. Honestly Carr was malogen in the first half the amount of times we lost pocession through a poor 1st touch was very noticeable. He did play much better in the 2nd half tbf. Greg Bolger was a rock when he came on simple passing that always seemed to find a team mate. Eathan Boyle honest as the day is long but very average. Great first night in the league brilliant crowds at all venues is going to live football matches in Ireland now trendy, looking at the way Bohs have cultized themselves..........possibly maybe or perhaps. Cant even get a ticket to sneak meself into the jodier apparently. KOH
Car was super on the wing last few games last year, it was frustrating how many times he didn't back himself against the full back. I'd say TC will change that
.....and they would have 'got away' with it as well if it wasn't for that pesky poster :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
As was shown at the U19 final shams are not big on winning players names.
What are you on about now? Everyone condemns incidents like these, nobody is happy about incidents like this, nobody is happy about City’s team bus being smashed up either.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
“Neither are as bad as first feared,” says Vinny Perth regarding Benson and McEleney’s injuries. Well that’s a relief certainly.
With RTÉ not holding the rights to highlights until Monday it would be great if the clubs started putting together some decent highlights package for their YouTube channels. Some clubs have done it in the past but having to wait til Tuesday to post them, they kind of lost their appeal
How ironic that it is the virtuous Cork City fans, especially CorkRebel, have had to appear on here in a poor attenpt to defend the indefensible or point fingers elsewhere. They claimed Cork fans are not capble of such behaviour and scoffed when it was said that all clubs have fans that can embaress our clubs, but not Cork - sure their players wont even tackle.
Do you honestly believe that City fans simply walked into a pub full of casually dressed Pats fans and their English buddies from Sheffield Wednesday and simply started throwing bottles at kids and old fellas, seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
7-10 City fans decide to take on a whole pub outnumbered by about 5 to 1? For decades now City fans have been getting hassle at games in Dublin involving certain clubs with the exception of Rovers in recent times who generally leave us alone. When is the last time there was serious trouble involving away fans getting attacked in Cork? It is ingrained in City fans now when travelling to Dublin to be aware of potential trouble. And yes we do have fans who will defend themselves when attacked.
Not much commentary about the City team bus getting attacked and windows smashed afterwards.
That's exactly what happened and those lads with their (Sheffield United) mates don't drink in McDowell's which makes it even more strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebs23
Cork fans also done the same in the Black Lion up the road on the way down to McDowells
* Sheffield United
There's also been more commentary on the pub incident(s) than the bus because Pats fans haven't bizarrely argued against any criticism of a small group of supporters' actions to anywhere near the frankly bizarre extent that many Cork fans have.
Looking forward to seeing Limerick on Friday night. Hopefully they can challenge for the top 4.
You can add Dundalk and Drogheda to that list albeit i doubt they have been over decades. It is always entirely unacceptable, as is not taking some ownership in responsibility also when need be. The tone and use of derogatory language on the Cork forum does have the effect of whipping up like thinking small minds that take things beyond some verbal BS. You should consider why you feel a persecution complex 'over decades' at all bar 1 club in Dublin!! Its not as if Cork have a history of being regular challangers for league titles that can cause a build up of the nastier side of rivalries. Ive never had any poor experience in or around LoI grounds bar at the bridge crossing the road at Tallaght on one occasion. Other than that single event I have mingled and drank with rival supporters in McDowells, The Maldron, Mother Hughes's, Linfield Supporters Club among many more Island wide. I have seen very very little aggro over the years relative to the battle royales that get reported online. That said when Cork fans had nasty experiences in Oriel it was to a man condemned by Dundalk fans, the culprits caught and banned. This debate on who started what is BS too as anyone who engages in scumbaggery deserve to be identified and banned. There is no defense and Cork fans would be better off acknowledging that than trying to take the heat off.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebs23
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Originally Posted by Jack B
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Originally Posted by Nesta99
I've yet to see a single City fan that has condoned the incidents in Inchicore or jumped to the defence of those involved, every Cork City fan on here has condemned what happened, be it what happened in a pub or our team bus getting smashed up. Keep up the "City fans are the devil!!!!!!!1111111111" narrative lads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
to be fair Nesta99 quoted the ridiculous justification posted by rebs23 (which you obviously 'missed'). many clubs have a small element of clowns that occasionally get out of hand and this was Cork Citys moment of embarrassment. Bohs, shams, Derry and Dundalk have all been there but that doesn't make what happened at McDowells right, nothing does. lets just all accept that and move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by CityRebel
You dont frequent the Cork City forum then! Either that its a public condemnation on a general LoI forum but then nothing of the sort on on insular Cork forum? An as marinobohs has mentioned if you have yet to see an attempt at condoning what happened read rebs23's post. He really takes the Cork persecution complex to a new level!!Quote:
Originally Posted by CityRebel
There's been plenty of unequivocal condemnation of violence on the City forum. And I say that as a City fan who frequents the forum. So to say there's been "nothing of the sort" on the City forum is not true, and a gambit from someone who (rightly) believes that most supporters of other clubs wouldn't be bothered signing up for a different club's forum and will take such tripe at face value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
That isn't the case though is it. And you know that. Nobody has said that about Cork fans on the whole, and the only really a discussion has been had at all beyond condemning what happened is that *some* Cork fans have been really defensive about it (not to be confused with them defending what happened) for some reason. You're desperately trying to clutch onto a "narrative" that doesn't exist and it's pretty weird tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by CityRebel
I think theres equally a narrative that all Pats fans were completely innocent. It seems to me that there were two groups of fans looking for a scrap with each other and both trying to pretend they are completely innocent when in fact they are both guilty and a stain on our game.
I wasn't there but from all reports, it seems Cork fans were the cause of the trouble in the pub and Pats fans at fault for incident with Cork bus, both incidents were wrong. If it were suggested that Cork 'deserved' to have their bus attacked or somehow instigated it, Cork fans would, rightly, be up in arms. Similarly, there is no basis to believe Pats fans did anything to deserve/instigate the incident in McDowells (or at least nobody has identified anything)Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Defending it on the basis of some previous incident in Dublin is garbage, many people have had a bad experience in Cork, it doesn't entitle them to go around throwing bottles and/or glasses.
When we played Linfield, no Dundalk fans were allowed attend the game unless they got official buses from Oriel and we got a police escort (about 20 big police vans from Sprucefield into Windsor. Was the same for Glentoran aswell, Cliftonville we were in the bar alright
So Nesta don’t make stuff up that you were drinking in Linfield Supporters Club before the game
Similar for Bohs when we played up in Linfield and Glentoran. Police escort in and out to the city limits. some fans did travel by car/train so they may have had a pint locally but it would want to be a very quiet pint.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
One thing I forgot about Dalymount on Friday was that we had to get our hot food from behind a caged fence because the FAI said so,but after the match we walked out mingling with those we couldn't buy chips with!!!!!
There was a Pats fan on twitter delighted with "slapping" Cork City fans. I get the impression the scrap in McDowells wasn't quite as one sided as this thread suggests. I wasn't there though, I don't know who started it, but it sounds like both sides were delighted to bump into each other. By the way I'm not remotely defending any City fans involved in this. I wish they would all **** off and just let us watch football.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
We all have our own small collections of muppets ........., not worth talking about them.
Your not defending but your are justifying what happened, if cork heads caused trouble in the pub they are scum if Pats heads broke windows on the cork team bus they are scum best leaving it there. The joe soap fan cant control these animals that’s what the cops are paid for.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Strange considering the only reason you weren't in the Jodi is because tickets were selling well enough that they needed to open the other stand. You'll be in the Jodi later in the year when there's less of a crowd. I wonder will they cage you in block A or is the cage only for chip-hungry fans :DQuote:
Originally Posted by joey B
I'm not justifying it at all. I'm saying that the Pats fans are also scum for fighting in the pub. I don't believe they weren't expecting something. I think it was probably organised or semi organised. I have no idea who threw the first punch but I don't think it was random Pats fans who were involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
So you think that two groups arranged to meet for a fight inside a packed pub?Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
I wasn't there but I've heard a very similar story from different people who were, the similarities and the fact that the people I spoke to wouldn't know each other, so wouldn't have had concocted the story between them.
From what I can gather, a group of cork fans 6-10 walked into McDowells started giving it the big one verbals etc this was met with verbals back from a group of fans at the back of the pub. Cork fans started throwing glasses/bottles, Pats fans and Cork Fans then both sets of fans tried to get at each other but as the pub was packed this obviously caused a bit of a crush/stampede.
Thankfully there were plenty of Gaurds around and it didn't last too long.
The Cork fans were also causing trouble in the Black Lion.
Smashing bus windows is an idiotic scumbaggy thing to do IMO what the cork lads did was far worse.
I believe the Gardaí are investigating both incidents so hopefully those involved get bans.
I must add I was very surprised at this as I have never seen any hassle with Cork fans before or trouble like that in mcDowells there would always be away fans drinking in there without an ounce of hassle including plenty of our Dublin rivals supporters.
Why don't Cork request the CCTV from the pub and identify those involved?Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
I hope that we have. I hope everyone involved from our end is banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by dublinred