Are the LoI clubs in some way compelled to take part? Is there any reason why Pats or Rovers, say, might not just decline to enter the competition at all?
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Are the LoI clubs in some way compelled to take part? Is there any reason why Pats or Rovers, say, might not just decline to enter the competition at all?
Surely easier for the LFA and the FAI to get their heads out of their collective asses and make the competition more viable ? maybe convert to an U19 competition ? less matches ? dedicated dates ? Anything to give the competition some identity other than another liability on clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Just play it as a pre season for loi teams Cup. Take the end of January to the league start in February and squeeze as much of it in there as possible. That way the LSL teams have a better chance while also playing actual LOI teams and it has a set date. Maybe do it as group stages in pre season then the teams that top their groups or however the numbers work qualify out for knockouts to be played before June.
No, and they proved that in 1924/5 when all the LOI teams withdrew because the LFA wouldn't agree to excuse them from the first two rounds. The LFA backed down and gave them the two rounds the following year.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Does that still hold today though?
Or would there be a difference between "You have to take part" per the rules and "You have to take part" per FAI politics?
was chatting to our own administator and its not definitely confirmed. Who confirmed this? The Leinster Football Association?Quote:
Originally Posted by hollocaine
I know from doing my own research into our participation in this competition in the mid 90s there were a few seasons that we didnt enter a team in the LSC . Cant remember the exact reason could be lack of nos and as far as I can remember I dont think we were fined!Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
great idea Rathfarnham. That was the way the old league cup competition used to be run!Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
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Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Great idea
Never mind the LSC we should have the League Cup down to the semis at least before the start of the season, like in the good ol' days (mid 90s anyway).
UCD v Crumlin now down for 2nd September
UCD v Crumlin now not down for 2nd September.
Postponed, with no new date yet.
Cabo vs Pats on Sunday at half 3 in the QF.
Who is left in this tournament?
UCD and Crumlin anyway...
They should just save up the finals and play three on the same day.
North End have to play Bohs away in the quarter-final.
I think North End hammered our u19s last week in a game that was due to have been played in February.
yeah 5-1. very hard to get information on who scored for us and lineout/subs. Forza got the ball rolling for me and was superb as was at the game but as for filling the rest of the blanks nothing.. even got our under 19 mgr email address from our administrator and sent an email and still no info!Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Its like the secret service.
wish this tournament would go tbh..
Outrageous comment. It's around since 1892 and is of greater importance to Intermediate sides than it is clubs in the League.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
It's also not obligatory to enter.
Agree 100%
Cabo are in the quarter final and are up for it big time , for intermediate sides its huge and for clubs that are not going to be winning the main cups it is a chance of silverware.
Winning the LSC was a springboard for Shels recently,
Was the LSC the last cup that Shamrock Rovers won back in 2013?Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Yea, it was the springboard for em......😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I suspect your not interested in debating the LSC but my point was that for smaller clubs (cabo) or big clubs who are on a downer (Shels) the LSC is a worthwhile cup that can invigorate fans either new ones or older ones who have fallen away in the lean years.
The lack of respect shown to the cup by the bigger clubs is terrible and some of the ideas suggested by other posters here should be taken up.
Play it in Jan/Feb as a preseason tournament at the point when the LOI clubs get involved is the best suggestion i've seen
In pre season even the bigger clubs routinely play matches against non league clubs so make it the LSC and give the comp a chance
Who cares how long it's been going around for? It's an appallingly-run tournament treated with disdain even by the LFA going by their organisation and promotion of it, and scrapping it is quite probably the best thing for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
It was gone from 2000 to 2010 and nobody missed it.
I would suggest to you that the lack of respect is reciprocal. The attitude by clubs large and small directly correlates to the appalling scheduling, promotion and antipathy shown by the organisers.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
It is hard to find too many positives about this competition, except that the trophy is a beauty
It certainly is and a shame that it's wasted. It is an important enough piece that it should be in a showcase in the Aviva or the like and not rattling around some dusty old cupboard. It's worth more than all the other trophies in senior football in this country combined and it will go missing altogether one day - should be acquired to be presented as the League Cup or Presidents Trophy as it is a rarity for to be the same actual cup from first presented and in such good nick after 127 years. Outside of the UK it could be the oldest trophy in football still presented in the world!? Including the UK its 4th or 5th. But that's just the trophy as the competition is a mess. Nice to add to a seasons collection, handy to get youth and reserve players game time if ye progress in it. Wouldnt have said no to winning it mid 2000s!! Preseason, U19/reserve competition, promote to non-league clubs as a day out v senior clubs with non-league clubs keeping the gate...how hard can it be to schedule football matches sensibly??Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Playing Cabinteely away at 3:30. The atmosphere should be electric.
A scintillating game in Stradbrook that had it all and was nip and tuck right until the end. It was played in fantastic conditions.
The complete opposite of the above is true, anyway we won one nil and roll on to glory.
Does anyone know what the quarter final brackets actually are? We know UCD v Crumlin still has to be played from the 4th round. There should be brackets for 3 other ties involving - UCD/Crumlin, Athlone, Bohs, Killester Utd, Sheriff YC and North End United.
I heard Bohs are playing North End, Crumlin/UCD v Athlone & Sheriff V Killester Donnycarney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
UCD 4-1 Crumlin tonight. Away to Athlone on Monday.
We were talking this evening about what rules are actually in play in this competition given it's technically over three different seasons - 2018/19 and 2019/20 for Crumlin, and 2019 for UCD in this case. New UEFA rule changes come in at the start of the next season - so a rule change that came in the Premier League in August won't appear in the LoI until March, and vice versa. But the LSC is a complete law unto itself of course...
Who's actually left in it?, it takes so long to play games I do forget
Quarter-final between North End and Bohemians has still to be played.
Athlone 3-2 UCD tonight
As someone on Twitter pointed out, this means that Athlone have defeated Premier Division sides in successive rounds in this year's competition - the first the week before their league season started, and the second the week after it ended.
Where that leaves them now with regards their semi I have no idea.
Wow. I mean, just fukkin wow. An entire league campaign in between successive cup games. #greatestdysfunctionalregionalcupintheworldQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
When it eventually comes to Vinny Perth writing his memoirs, he may well reflect on the Leinster Senior Cup as being 'the one that got away'
UCD had some first team squad players playing last night.. that seems a bit mad doesn't it?
The fact that we used first-teamers or that we lost with first-teamers?
It was pretty much a first-team XI (injuries permitting). We had no game at the weekend, so I think the plan was to use the Crumlin game and this one to keep things ticking along ahead of Friday.
I thought there would be no first teamers in action ahead of Friday, honestly would not look at result.. although now that I think of it, probably a headache for Athlone to go through, who knows when the next round will be. Do they have to keep paying wages? Tis chaos!
Crazy competition, needs a bit of rebranding.
The Leinster Senior Cup sponsored by Viagara.
For when your club takes a year to get to a semi.