Yep they can all play. As can Manus for us plus whoever else we sign , badly need to replace Graham burkes goals
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Yep they can all play. As can Manus for us plus whoever else we sign , badly need to replace Graham burkes goals
Ludogorets v Crusaders
Cork City v Legia Warsaw
Christ...
Disaster.
F**king horrible draw.
Harsh draw.
The only plus side is that it's easy to get to.
Even worse for Crues, nightmare.
Safety net! Cork lose and they go straight into the third qualifying round EL.
2nd round I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
No, we got the 'bye'. 3rd round is correct now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArFella
That's a massive boost, at least. Handy extra cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
Will they get the 2nd qualifying round cash even with a bye though?Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
You'd have to imagine they would.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Downside is no trip for the second round if we lose to Warsaw (when we lose) and that would have been a winnable tie in theory. Now we could get Midtylland or someone in the third round and lose all our games and be done. There are some potential beatable sides there if all seeds win their ties though so playoff is not out of the question. Coefficient points for reaching the third round in the bag before we even kick a ball, plus the prize money I guess.
That's a fair win-win for Cork in that case. Only one round from a Europa League playoff at that too.
Ahh ok, not so bad so. Be a tough a round to enter but will give ye an extra week off that we won't have, unless we get knocked out before hand but I'd be hopeful we will both make it that far at least and then who knows what might happen!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
These are the expected seeded sides as things stand for EL QR3 in the Champions Path. Some tricky sides, some winnable ties there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArFella
FC Midtjylland
Red Star Belgrade
Hapoel Beer-Sheva
Rosenborg BK
HJK Helsinki
The New Saints
Videoton Fehérvár
FK Kukësi
CFR Cluj
Zrinjski Mostar
Well my team Basel hammered them 4-0 easy enough:p and would be delighted to get them again. I am sorry I should relaise that 90% of all European teams are class compared to a LOI team.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Just a well organised team would beat them no problem, thats my opinion after looking at them more than once in Europe, 4 times in fact, twice in st jakob. have you seen them yourself?
Cant win games on paper
edit: god damn, missed the draw, and rushed home early, tsk bloody cet times!
awful draw for cork, christ
If it wasn't for any idiot ref giving an idiotic penalty giving a penalty against Andy Boyle....
Dundalk had the measure of Legia, they are beatable. This is the chance for Cork to lay down a marker and show the wider sporting public what they are made of.
Caulfield needs to drum into them that there is no safety net. Forget the Europa League.
Go out and beat the Poles lads and do the league proud. All real LOI fans will be behind you.
Beat Finnish champions 9-0 on agg last season - I get the impression they have improved further.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
On the other side pressure off may help us. Dundalk and Pats have both gotten results over there in the recent past. They won't have played any competitive games and have 2 players in the Polish squad for the world cup, where its not inconceivable that they are still in that a week before we play Legia.
Problem is the money Legia earned from beating Dundalk means that they should now be pretty much untouchable by Cork now.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Cork City - ridden rock solid once more...
Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
I`m pretty sure you only get cash for the rounds you play in, so I don’t think Cork will be eligible for payment for EL round 2 should they lose to Legia.
It’s a very tough draw and I think Legia have got stronger since they beat us on agg, but we drew over there, should have won really, they scored equaliser in the 92nd min, but won 3-1 on agg to be fair, so although it’s a huge ask, it’s not completely impossible, Legia will obviously be massive odds on to progress though.
Nice bonus of skipping EL round 2 should they lose (winning the draw for the tie that gets the bye), I`m assuming Cork will be unseeded for round 3, as this was one I was looking at before. Should Dundalk make it that far, we will no longer be seeded, so likes of Burnley, Besiktas, Seville, Atalanta, Bordeaux, Sparta etc will all be there and seeded, assuming they all navigate past round 2.
Belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Although the budgets, heritage, history, bookmakers, media and pundits may all say it can't be done, belief is one of the big keys to overcoming what appears to be the near impossible.
Anyone who was regularly close to the Dundalk squad in their European exploits, can tell you that Stephen Kenny installed almost incredible levels of belief in his players that they could overcome teams like Bate, Macabbi, Legia, Zenit, Alkmar, Rosenborg, Alkmaar and Hajduk. The players absolutely believed that they could win against these teams home or away.
It may not have always have proved to be the case, but it always gave them a real chance.
Legia Warsaw can be beaten
Second round draw now I presume?
Cork City FC / Legia Warsaw v FC Spartak Trnava/ HSK Zrinjski
Both easier draws than Legia. Cork probably would have been ok with that draw the other way around
Mostar was my preference before the first draw happened. Looks like a gorgeous City and they are one of the lower (lowest I think) seeds. That doesn't mean they are easier to beat than TNS for example but you'd have been very happy with it. As it is we are guaranteed to reach the third round which is a bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
There's part of the Europa League draw on today as well, yeah? The champions' path; not Dundalk/Rovers/Derry
Yes, the part that City would have been in except for the bye.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
3pm
With Cork going into the 3rd round of the Europa, obviously barring an upset, will Turners Cross be ok for that round?
I'd be surprised if they got the cash for the second round if the bye means they don't play/incur the costs involved but if they do that is a massive bonus....Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
As far as we know yes. We played Genk in EL QR3 at the Cross two years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
The other side to it, Cork could potentially argue they have qualified from round 2 on a technicality.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
On Twitter, Owen Cowzer of The Sun is quoting UEFA as confirming Cork do not get the second round prize money.
Cant see us getting money for the bye. No big deal, Would take EL round 3 every day of the week. A round we have never got through. And probably also the same place we'd have ended up if we got a winnable CL first round draw. Todays draw has been decent.
Cork slipped away quietly last year, with barely a whisper, against Limassol, so I fear for them against Legia. As bad a draw as they could have got.
Caulfield doesn't have the know-how that Kenny has in Europe.
Pity about the cash for the 2md round but I suppose 1st round teams that get a bye from the preliminary round don't get the prelim money so its consistent.
The main benefit IMO is they are in the 3rd round and close to a shot at group stages....
Rovers/Derry/Dundalk have to play and win 4 matches (on aggregate) to get that far.
Shows how important winning the league is.
The stakes for winning or coming second in the league now are huge......
Not this again. We beat Levadia Tallinn 6-2 and then lost to Larnaca, who are an excellent side (2nd to APOEL), 1 nil in each leg. Do you feel we should have won that tie? We probably deserved a goal over the course of the tie, but they were better than us, simple as.Quote:
Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve
That would be correct, you only get money for rounds that you participate in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
With the amount of money UEFA have and how difficult they are making it for smaller leagues they could afford to throw a bone at Cork, or whomever
I should have meant to say Larnaca. Watched both matches on stream, and it was brutally disappointing stuff to watch from Cork. They definitely should have won. Just an opinion of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar