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17/02/2018, 7:19 PM
sbgawa

In my never ending quest to spread the gospel I brought a loi Virgin along last night. Loved the atmosphere and intends going to dundalk match...never been at a live football match before. We have a great product need to keep selling.
18/02/2018, 12:10 AM
littlebray

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

... hasn't there been an unwritten tradition of airing the champions in the first game of the season?

Yes, there was - until the Michael D Cup came along. It makes less sense to air a Champions' match again the following week.
18/02/2018, 12:24 AM
El-Pietro

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Originally Posted by littlebray

Yes, there was - until the Michael D Cup came along. It makes less sense to air a Champions' match again the following week.

Wait, was last Sundays game on tv after all?
18/02/2018, 4:49 AM
Pablo Escobar

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Originally Posted by littlebray

Yes, there was - until the Michael D Cup came along. It makes less sense to air a Champions' match again the following week.

The only airing I got of the Micky D cup was highlights (goals), 24 hours later and in reverse order courtesy of Dundalk FC. Credit due to Dundalk to putting the highlights up tbf.
18/02/2018, 1:43 PM
littlebray

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

Wait, was last Sundays game on tv after all?

My bad - but wasn't it on TV the first couple of seasons it was played?? Or am i misremembering that, too?
18/02/2018, 1:43 PM
legendz

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Originally Posted by redobit

Believe it or not there is counties north of the line between Dublin and Galway.

True and fair enough. I haven't strayed north of that line.
18/02/2018, 2:02 PM
EatYerGreens

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

if Pats V Cork was "always likely to be a better fixture" how come Bohs V Rovers sold out two weeks ago ?

Because there's no accounting for taste :cool:
18/02/2018, 2:02 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by littlebray

My bad - but wasn't it on TV the first couple of seasons it was played?? Or am i misremembering that, too?

It was streamed online but not on TV.
18/02/2018, 2:03 PM
EatYerGreens

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Originally Posted by littlebray

My bad - but wasn't it on TV the first couple of seasons it was played?? Or am i misremembering that, too?

Don't recall it being on myself, but I could be wrong on that.
18/02/2018, 2:50 PM
Pablo Escobar

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Originally Posted by littlebray

My bad - but wasn't it on TV the first couple of seasons it was played?? Or am i misremembering that, too?

I think Dundalk Pats was on in 2015. We've been in it since then and it hasn't been shown live on TV. It was streamed live from Cork the last 2 years, but it couldn't even the streamed this year, apparently due to internet speed in Dundalk.
20/02/2018, 3:39 AM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by sulywaterfordfc

The Dublin derby has the biggest attraction in the league without a doubt, games been sold out for a couple weeks now. That�s the game people want to watch. Besides Waterford games, that�s the only other game I want to see on TV - I sure I�m not the only one either.

Any game that sells out should be on TV by definition - there are people who will miss out so the demand should be met by TV. It's as close to a no-lose situation as we get in this league.
20/02/2018, 3:18 PM
EatYerGreens

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Any game that sells out should be on TV by definition - there are people who will miss out so the demand should be met by TV. It's as close to a no-lose situation as we get in this league.

That's a ridiculous argument to be fair.

Games selling out are as much a reflection of the lack of stadium capacity in our league as they are a surplus of demand. Derry had a number of sold out games last year - but that's because they were playing in a stadium with a c. 1,500 capacity, fro example. Should they have been aired over other fixtures with bigger crowds ?

Cork will have multiple home games this season with higher gates than Friday's Bohs-Rovers fixture. By your logic none of those should be televised if games elsewhere with a lower capacity sell out.

Plus - TV schedules have to be sorted in-advance, whereas it won't always be clear if a game will set out in sufficient time.
22/02/2018, 2:15 AM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

That's a ridiculous argument to be fair.

Games selling out are as much a reflection of the lack of stadium capacity in our league as they are a surplus of demand. Derry had a number of sold out games last year - but that's because they were playing in a stadium with a c. 1,500 capacity, fro example. Should they have been aired over other fixtures with bigger crowds ?

Maginn Park obviously wasn't suitable for TV coverage. What other ground would you say this example holds true for?

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Cork will have multiple home games this season with higher gates than Friday's Bohs-Rovers fixture. By your logic none of those should be televised if games elsewhere with a lower capacity sell out.

When will this be a factor?
22/02/2018, 12:06 PM
EatYerGreens

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Maginn Park obviously wasn't suitable for TV coverage. What other ground would you say this example holds true for?

The very example we're talking about. Dalymount has a capacity which will be between 50% and 100% smaller than some crowds Cork are likely to attract in the next few years. By your logic, any Dalymount sell outs should therefore have precedence.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

When will this be a factor?

As above.

A policy of deciding what games to air on the basis of what sells out in a league where some stadia have pretty low capacities - up to half as low as some other grounds - is just not a sensible idea. Which is why I suspect it will fortunately not be followed by any broadcaster.
22/02/2018, 2:43 PM
sbgawa

The broadcasters show what they think will get the biggest viewer figures. Their view is probably as far to an unbiased one as possible.
22/02/2018, 3:50 PM
EatYerGreens

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Originally Posted by sbgawa

The broadcasters show what they think will get the biggest viewer figures. Their view is probably as far to an unbiased one as possible.

That, and proximity to Dublin clearly :D
22/02/2018, 7:14 PM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

The very example we're talking about. Dalymount has a capacity which will be between 50% and 100% smaller than some crowds Cork are likely to attract in the next few years. By your logic, any Dalymount sell outs should therefore have precedence.

Well if Turner's Cross isn't full, then clearly most people who want to see it are already going to be there. If Dalymount is full, that's not true. If there's 5,000 people in Tallaght but Dalymount is full, I'd say the same thing.
22/02/2018, 7:19 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Well if Turner's Cross isn't full, then clearly most people who want to see it are already going to be there. If Dalymount is full, that's not true. If there's 5,000 people in Tallaght but Dalymount is full, I'd say the same thing.

Most television viewers are neutrals and away fans, not home fans who couldn't make it. Any game in Turners Cross, there's likely more away fans that couldn't make the trip, than there were people missed out on tickets for Dalymount last week. Those numbers would be fairly negligible, even in a sell out.
22/02/2018, 7:47 PM
Charlie Darwin

Well if that's the case why does it matter if there's more people at the Cork game?
22/02/2018, 7:53 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Well if that's the case why does it matter if there's more people at the Cork game?

I don't think it does matter much, other than it looking good on tv maybe. Maybe an element that more people willing to turn up to a game is indicative of more people willing to watch it on tv too. But that point was only raised in response to the claim that a game being sold out should be a deciding factor.
22/02/2018, 7:54 PM
Charlie Darwin

The point doesn't really address the claim then, does it?
22/02/2018, 8:00 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

The point doesn't really address the claim then, does it?

If a sell out means there's more people going to want to watch the game on tv, then I think it's reasonable to say more people are likely interested in a game with a bigger attendance.

Personally, I don't think game attendance has much influence, other than giving an idea of the interest in the game. Trying to quantify if a sell out dalymount or 5k at the Cross indicates more general interest seems impossible.

But, I think the original point that a sold out game should automatically be the tv game doesn't make sense.
22/02/2018, 8:43 PM
EatYerGreens

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Well if Turner's Cross isn't full, then clearly most people who want to see it are already going to be there. If Dalymount is full, that's not true. If there's 5,000 people in Tallaght but Dalymount is full, I'd say the same thing.

You're really determined not to let this go !:D

If a Dalymount game was a sell-out - again, let's be honest, largely because of its crap capacity, you'd be talking a few hundred or a thousand or so max who really wanted to go but couldn't.

You don't revolve TV content around those sorts of numbers of people.
23/02/2018, 1:11 AM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by micls

If a sell out means there's more people going to want to watch the game on tv, then I think it's reasonable to say more people are likely interested in a game with a bigger attendance.

Personally, I don't think game attendance has much influence, other than giving an idea of the interest in the game. Trying to quantify if a sell out dalymount or 5k at the Cross indicates more general interest seems impossible.

But, I think the original point that a sold out game should automatically be the tv game doesn't make sense.

I didn't say a sell-out meant more people are going to watch it on TV. It means there are people who would have gone if there were more tickets. If you don't agree with it, fine.
23/02/2018, 8:22 AM
Mr A

Holy crap there's a conversation about live games and sell outs what is happening to this league I don't know any more.
23/02/2018, 9:15 AM
micls

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I didn't say a sell-out meant more people are going to watch it on TV. It means there are people who would have gone if there were more tickets. If you don't agree with it, fine.

You've lost me then. So what's your logic around tv should show it? Just for the small number that missed out?

Of course a sell out means more people would have gone. I just don't understand why that translates into it being the better option for tv? Especially when you consider more people may want to watch a different game.
23/02/2018, 3:18 PM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by micls

You've lost me then. So what's your logic around tv should show it? Just for the small number that missed out?

Of course a sell out means more people would have gone. I just don't understand why that translates into it being the better option for tv? Especially when you consider more people may want to watch a different game.

I think they should be shown as people are missing out on them.
23/02/2018, 4:28 PM
legendz

Surprised that there is no live game on tv tonight. At least two of the fixtures jump out as being worth watching on the box for those of us outside the LoI catchment area.
23/02/2018, 7:00 PM
Eminence Grise

U-20s egg-chasing is far more important. Didn't you get that memo?
23/02/2018, 7:14 PM
CorribsideSteve

The Rovers Dundalk match is viewable on Cricfree. It's continually disappointing that Under 20's rugby takes a precedent on Friday night's like this.
23/02/2018, 8:43 PM
legendz

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Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve

The Rovers Dundalk match is viewable on Cricfree. It's continually disappointing that Under 20's rugby takes a precedent on Friday night's like this.

Has it a higher tv audience?

If RT� didn't want to show LoI this evening, fine, I'm more surprised Eir Sport didn't get in on the action.

Three Irish terrestrial channels are showing rugby this evening;
TV3: France v Italy
RT� 2: Ireland U20 v Wales U20
TG4: Leinster v Southern Kings
23/02/2018, 9:35 PM
CorribsideSteve

It IS a surprise that it wasn't on Eir Sport, wondering what the reasoning is there. I can't ever remember LOI being shown on TV 3, although I stand to be corrected. TG 4 used to show live matches years ago and it was a very good broadcast, would be nice to see it make a return there. According to a recent Irish Times article, the average RTE 2 viewing figures for an LOI match are around 60,000, so it's a good bet that u20 rugby has a higher audience, but the again u20's six-nation rugby on Friday nights has been a staple of RTE2 for many years now so it's unlikely that will ever change.
23/02/2018, 9:38 PM
EatYerGreens

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Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve

It IS a surprise that it wasn't on Eir Sport, wondering what the reasoning is there.

It's because none of tonight's games sold out.
31/03/2018, 10:52 AM
trevy

No live game next weekend from reading this thread. It's probably too late now but Waterford v Cork City would be good one to show. Is Dundalk v Shamrock Rovers next Friday as well?
31/03/2018, 11:09 AM
mcgonigle

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Originally Posted by trevy

No live game next weekend from reading this thread. It's probably too late now but Waterford v Cork City would be good one to show. Is Dundalk v Shamrock Rovers next Friday as well?

Dundalk Rovers is on tv
06/04/2018, 8:13 PM
dong

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Originally Posted by mcgonigle

Dundalk Rovers is on tv

Another fantastic game on tv. Thats the 3rd excellent one so far. Great to see.
06/04/2018, 8:23 PM
dong

Brian Kerr saying 'Tagbajooomi' was an added bonus.😁
06/04/2018, 8:36 PM
pineapple stu

Enjoyed that the commentators started off with "Hooban" but gradually gave up on it and reverted to Hoban.
06/04/2018, 9:44 PM
WoodquayBoy

On the Sky box listings, the RT� scheduled games was Dundalk v Cork City.
07/04/2018, 1:41 AM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

On the Sky box listings, the RT� scheduled games was Dundalk v Cork City.

Maybe they meant the post-match entertainment on foot.ie

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