Anyone see his goal yesterday? It was pretty special, imo, a Bergkamp v Argentina style effort.
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Anyone see his goal yesterday? It was pretty special, imo, a Bergkamp v Argentina style effort.
Showed some nice control but didn't beat a man like Bergkamp did. Then again McCarthy's never touched the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
I've only seen extra time, but McCarthy's having a great game at the back for Palace at Old Trafford tonight by the sounds of things. Palace under immense pressure and have eleven men behind the ball with a few minutes to go but he's dealt with everything United have thrown at him in extra time and made a vital tackle to keep Palace in the lead. Maybe worth another look in a 'B' international?
Gave away the penalty for Man Utd's goal. I do agree that Ireland should have a ''B'' match though
He's been playing that way all season apparently. He gave away a silly penalty, but he put in a real Kevin Moran shift tonight. I'd have more confidence in him than McShane but O'Dea has that reserve CB spot for himself and based on Ireland performances that's hard to argue with. O'Shea & Kelly are also bcak up CB options in Trap's eyes.
I do like McCarthy's no-nonsense defending though and think he's unlucky not to have been capped. He was prone to yellow cards early in his career but had largely cut this out, but when he should have been considered for a spot (under Stan) the press kept going on about his discipline. I think that was what put paid to his chances - that and youngirish's opinions of him (if memory serves me well)!
Hadn't been aware he gave away the penalty.
Whenever I've seen him play it's really proper old-school no-nonsense stuff. Impressive commitment levels, can see why he's captaining the side.
Giving away a penalty is something that happens to the best of players. One of the first names on Ireland's team sheet is the all-time Premier League own-goal record holder. He has probably conceded his fair share of penalties too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
No disagreements there. I think Jamie Carragher is up there too. Maybe such records are a sign of tenacity and commitment; both virtues in my world of football. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Serb
I remember watching a lot of him in his early days at Leicester, and he had moments of indicipline or poor play/decisions which would undo an otherwise impressive performance, this blighted him, but he has (I think) only got two bookings this season, and is part of a much improved side under Freedman, he was next to Tunchev at the back till recently, a very good player who has had awful injury trouble, and was loaned to Palace from Leicester, he is presently back at Leicester, so we will see how McCarthy and Palace fair without him, I think they will miss Tunchev, and they have dropped in the league since not having him available.
All heart, a leader and captain where ever he has been, a dodgy shoulder, and a guy who has found his level, you could argue, again the other night, he let go of one Man U players shirt/arm (Diouf?) to go across and tug the other players shirt to give away the pen, and very nearly did it again later to Macheda. Here
I remember once a poster on a Leicester board saying it always made him smile how the staduim would rise to applaud another last ditch tackle or goal line clearence from McCarthy, never realising it was another balls up by him in the lead up which would invariably have given rise to the need for it.
O'Dea, McShane & Co dont give the opposition as much joy as he does, its marginal, but I think Irish managers have gotten it right.
He hasn't played for Leicester for four years. He is still a last-ditch defender but he is rarely the person who makes the balls-ups in the first placeQuote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Just scored an own goal from a Paul Green cross
Could be a useful squad defender in Poland. Hopefully will make the Carling cup final to give him some exposure
Palace have kept the most clean sheets in the Championship this season with 11 and have only conceded 24 goals in which Paddy has been an ever present and captain. I think that he more than deserves his chance with Ireland.
I'm never against us having a look at a player, but he always worried me a bit in terms of rash tackling. I remember him getting a fair amount of cards early in his career, not sure if anything has changed in that regard but the stats you present eagle are impressive.
When he first joined Palace he was often making rash tackles and picking u bookings and occassionally getting sent off. This season though he seems to have left that all behind him and he has been immense. He has only picked up two yellows so far.
I've always liked McCarthy but I think O'Dea is deservedly the number 3 / 4 centre-back (Dunne, Sledge, O'Shea, O'Dea, Kelly as back up). Also, Croatia, Spain & Italy will be a step higher than anything he has played before. All of the above are seasoned internationals and deservingly ahead of him.
If McShane can have 20 caps, so too can McCarthy have had. Great to see him do well and he'd have had a chance in bygone days playing at his present standard (certainly Jack through to Stan era), but the point I was making on another thread holds - we have lots of players playing at quite a high standard now, just none playing at elite standard - the Champs League teams.
I hav'nt seen a lot of Paddy but I believe he was prone to the odd rash challenge and therefore bookings and sending offs. I would like to know if he a bit short of pace/ or reasonably fast because it does seem a bit harsh that Paul McShane has acrued (?) a nice number of caps and Paddy few if any ?
Saw Paddy on Saturday;he was steady enough. Had a pretty solid game.
At least as good as Kilbane, say. And O'Dea for that matter, on Saturday's evidence.
Unlike McShane who was struggling to match those around him, in Div.2 ,FFS.
Wouldn't fault his effort, but ability-wise, not great.
I agree. Especially regarding shooting outside the boxQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGElFKpzFlE
Erm, except I was talking about McShane.
ha. well then please accept my most humble apologies!
McShane will have little difficulty in meeting championship standards.
Actually, he was struggling to keep up...
In your opinion.
In the opinion of Palace fans, McShane did very well.
In fact, not a bad comment anywhere
Paul McShane (Dumbuya, 67): 7 - The on-loan Hull City defender also effortlessly slipped into the right-back berth when he came home. A boost now that Peter Ramage has gone back to QPR.
8 exemplary when he came on
7 - tidy
7 - I was worried but he did well; quicker than I'd thought too
Mc Shane was OK. Got a couple of good tackles in
7 - some crunching tackles
8 solid as a rock
7 Looked OK, made some good tackles
6 – Good first sighting where he looks a full back without the frills. Looked a little uncertain positionally which was no great surprise, but put in some good tackles and did not allow Townsend much joy.
McShane - was dubious but turned out to be exactly what we needed. Great sub by Dougie
8 - looks very good, made some brilliant tackles
Speed demon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...uoxihmu4#t=30sQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Wasn't it "Speed Deamon".
How hard can it be to spell 'demon'? :D
Wrong thread, geysir!
Though if you must persist, also going by the judgment of the CP fans I was at the game with and those around me who thought McShane's abilities 'limited, if we're being polite.
Anyway, this thread is about Paddy, who was solid, so.
Just sent off for two bookings. First one wasn't a booking but the second one was crazy. Smashed through the back of Miller for no reason at all. Speed Deamon McShane replacing Ambrose to cover for him. Gonna be very tough for Palace now.
Yeah daft challenge, I've been there myself though sometimes you just can't stop momentum when they stop shorter than what you expect. I suppose that is one of those gaffes people always talk about with McCarthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Yeah, a real Richard Dunne circa 2007 of a challenge.
What a pity for McCarthy, very rash though. McShane on to replace him and is doing well as we head into extra time. Good old fashioned cup tie.
It was my first time watching McCarthy in a game, he was poor on the night and couldn't get to grips with Miller.
It doesn't look good for Paddy when McShane comes in and does the CH job better, gets his head to the ball, shackles Miller and generally good with distribution to midfield.
Props to him. Good enough for the EPL?
He'll have to get fit first. Delaney and Ramage would be the incumbent pairing now.
Will be interesting to see if he gets back in, they might end up with an Irish pairing there, but to early to say.
Was that him going up on crutches with the team as they received the trophy?
It was indeed. Yet to play under Holloway but he's club captain.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
McCarthy is an honest and passionate soul, but his rashness in decision making, lack of pace and poor distribution will really affect his ability to play in the Premiership.
So he is basically a Politician without the honesty and passion?