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i can see your logic, but i think your decision is based on 20% logic, and 80% pettiness!
I don't think your point about falling further behind actually holds much water at all.
When Rovers qualified for the EL groups a few years ago they didn't go on to dominate Irish football. If anything they actually regressed, but that achievement was great to promote our league, and dare i say, it may have given confidence to other LOI players that they could achieve something similar. Imho, it did far more good for LOI clubs than bad.
Even Dundalk, with their massive cash windfall from last year are no further ahead of Limerick now than they were this time last year or the year before.
If a LOI side manages to gain a big financial payday from Europe, the money will most likely go to towards long term infrastructural improvements on grounds, training facilities, underage structures and other non-first team related activities, which are sorely needed at almost every club. Every LOI club could probably spend a few million quid on these areas just to bring them up to an acceptable standard, and they'd be no further ahead of the pack.
Limerick
Not one club in the league gained a whit from Dundalks exploits in Europe bar Dundalk. Look at the attendances and you'll find this is an actual quantifiable fact. The idea that Dundalk beating Sparta tractograd gives a big boost to the league with Joe public exists solely in the minds of league of Ireland fans. It has no basis in reality.
I would disagree with you LTID on Dundalk and other teams benefiting. Any success improves pitches/facilities/profile. Our team has a lot of good players from outside the league this year, would we have them all if Dundalk didn't go on their run last year and elevate the profile of the league with non Irish players?
Cáwkies
Well as im sure you know, nothing could be done until the lease situation was completed at the end of November.
Quote from club "the installation of the new pitch is the first part of a long-term strategy to improve the facilities at Oriel Park for players, staff and both Dundalk and visiting supporters. The club are undertaking a major review into the long-term future of Oriel Park. Given that our that long-standing legal issues have only recently being resolved, this process is still in its early stages."
Ya you'd expect oriel within the next three years to be one of the best grounds to go watch a game.
You don't need to agree BWA, but I don't ever remember us having that many quality players from outside the league before. Robson alone, on loan from a premiership team having actually played for them, requires some trust on the part of the loaning club and player in fairness.
The pitch in Dundalk last night was vastly improved.
Its not about agreeing though its a fact. If you just wanna take the ones that were any use for example.
Before Dundalk in Europe:
Patrick Nzuzi
Sam Oji
Robbie Williams
Prince Agyemang
Danny Galbraith
Axel Bossekota
Craig Curran
This season:
Tommy Robson
Bastien Hery
Rodrigo Tosi
And if you add in the fact that the only reason Tosi is here is because of Joe Gamble that leaves us with a left back that again is only here cos of contacts someone the club has and a lad that had been released from Accrington Stanley doesn't say much for Dundalks run attracting them really.
Apart from Robbie, don't think any of those lads are as good as this year' s three. One did produce but ultimately had to be let go.
Them being as good as this years three is nothing to do with the point you made though but even if you wanna go down that route then Tosi is here cos of the Gamble connection and Robson is here cos Pat has a connection at Sunderland nothing at all to do with Dundalk. So Dundalks run managed to snag us a lad that was released from Accrington Stanley having played one game if you genuinely think it had an impact.
Finally paid us back for that Scanlon goal.
Two port a cabin toilets in Oriel Park away section. Disgrace. No running water. How can you expect to attract women or children to a match if there is no running water in the toilets?
The capital I in the title here.
That analysts talking about the league are generally former players who've done very well out of the league and have little to offer on many issues beyond saying more money should be spent. And most have not the foggiest notion of challenges facing clubs.
The tendency towards infighting within clubs.
The myth that Dublin has too many clubs when actually the number reflects the population pretty accurately.
Peter Collins
Brian Kerr's whingey, whingey voice
Analysts that know feck all about more than a couple of clubs and beyond that just fall back on cliches.
Grounds not having bars.
Bus drivers who don't bother to find out where the destination ground is, or won't accept advise on directions, or both.
Bus drivers who refuse to facilitate all too necessary urination stops.
The weird obsession with flares from both the FAI and those who think it's not a game without them.
The way we have followed the Premier League in not respecting cup competitions.
The way that for every person will to help out at a club there are ten willing to shout at them about doing it better but rarely if ever actually helping.
The instinctive negativity of so many involved in the league.
And many more. Might start an equivalent thread for the good stuff.
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The way that for every person will to help out at a club there are ten willing to shout at them about doing it better but rarely if ever actually helping.
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Think you are way off the mark there Mr A , its more like 100 willing to shout abuse at the 1 volunteer
Singing/chanting in an English accent... "Oo are ya?" and "Shall we sing a song for you?" when do Irish people ever use the word 'shall' when 'will' is available?
Unnecessary/heavy handed stewarding and segregation. Is there really a need to keep 12 Bray fans back for 10 minutes at the end of a match in Dundalk?
In fairness they're always liable to have a go at a wall. Pen them in I say.