Ah, I see it; "Mangan is an arse". Ha. I'd have to assume it's a bit of banter between two friends.
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Ah, I see it; "Mangan is an arse". Ha. I'd have to assume it's a bit of banter between two friends.
I hope so, or Mr Mangan won't be a bit pleased.
Anyway, apologies for the digression, back to the thread!
Christy saved a penalty in that game as I recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I am at a loss Stann!
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...pssuweh9pu.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Who's Mangan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by stann
Fellow sports historian JA Mangan, presumably.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
30 years to the day today that the last match was played in Milltown. Like rovers are hate rovers what happened to Milltown is probably still one of the biggest crimes ever committed in Irish football.
Funnily enough though every time there's a landmark about Milltown we end up playing Sligo and we play them again on Friday so here's hoping for a similar result to 30 years ago.
I should have read back before saying i was at a loss - thanks though Danny lol
I'd take a draw alrightQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
I'd be happy with the 1-0 at the momentQuote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
I'd take any result that didn't involve us conceding a ridiculous set piece goal.
You're thinking of the replay of a two legged game in the Showgrounds. Game in Milltown was a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Wouldnt exactly call it a crime, but it was sad to lose such a great ground. Great memories of a young Ashley Grimes, destroying them single handedly in a cup replay there , also a last minute equaliser by Johnny Reynor 83/84? Otherwise it was heartbreak, usually caused by Noel Larkin. In fairness, Rovers had a superb team back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
I was at that last game there 30 years and in the course of the half time pitch invasion the Rovers fans started to run toward the Sligo end and it looked like disaster was imminent. The Sligo fans started applauding them and it ended in photo opp handshakes all round.Emotional day for old Hoops I suppose.
Cmon Sligo.
I was at that game and my main memory is the large "Fu#k Tolka" banner displayed by some fans when we came on to the pitch. I have a fair few photos of that day in my attic someplace. What really gets me is that Louis Kilcoyne later became head of the FAI and was of course supported by Dunphy.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
The fact that man got another job in football at any level never mind as the head of football for the whole country is disgraceful but sums football in this country up.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Yeah I am indeed. Considering I wasn't born at the time not too big a crime but I'm pretty red faced just now, I just knew that was a replay, Rovers won the cup and mick Byrne scored in Milltown so not too bad, 2 replays seems ridiculous. Anyway I'd still take a 1-0 tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Greasy Louis was involved with cork city for awhile, was he not?
If so, it perfectly illustrates the nature of LOI togetherness..
Yeah some Cork fans I know aren't too happy that he was though.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
What also perfectly illustrates the loi is I read a few news reports from big news companies about the last game in Milltown to find out about the match since I wasn't born when it was played, one said rovers won one nil rovers and all of them said it was a replay. Found out in today's match program that the semis were actually over 2 legs for a while. Typical.
Called the 1-0 though and I stand by that I'm happy with it
https://www.rte.ie/archives/2017/040...-leave-ground/
Any idea of what they mean about not being able to develop Milltown in to a soccer ground?
No idea what they mean there? Only thing I can think of is a typo and they mean into anything but a soccer ground due to zoning or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Think it's just a bad copy. The Jesuits owned the ground on stipulation it would only be used as a soccer ground. They sold it to the Kilcoynes on the understanding that that would continue, but clearly didn't get any guarantees considering what happened next. Bit trusting of the Jesuits, but hopefully a valuable lessons there for all the other folks who own grounds in trust around the country. I'd genuinely hate to see Dundalk or Sligo or anyone else lose their home to greedy developers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
It wasn't 2 replays. It was more ridiculous then that. It was a two legged affair where away goals (or penalties) weren't considered after the two legs. (as an aside we famously had 3 replays against Cobh 4 years prior)Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Yeah I know I realised that after reading Fridays programme the news reports I read had said it was a replay that then needed another replay. Journalism in this country. I see your ridiculous fact though and raise you this. For that semi final the fai told the rovers supporters club, they produced the programmes after kilcoyne decided they weren't worth the effort, there was a £200 charge to produce programs for it so the supporters club decided not to produce any because it would cost too much. The FAI though took £200 from the gate receipts anyway despite no programme being made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
There was a programme produced for the last game at Milltown. It wasn't the regular issue but a larger format more like a newsletter. I really doubt there were FAI fines at the time for not producing programmes. Some clubs were hit and miss at the time for issues.
Milltown could easily have been developed into a decent football ground but was worth considerably more for housing. I believe the Jesuits were naive but
couldn't have sold the ground for development without a massive outcry and backlash against the Catholic Church even in 1987. The Kilcoynes clearly made a massive profit on the deal - almost £1 million I believe.
It wasn't a fine. According to the programme write up the FAI were 'franchising' out the FAI semi finals and as part of that clubs had to pay £200 for the right to produce match programmes. The Kilcoynes couldn't be bothered making programmes so gave up a while before that at which point the rovers supporters club began producing them. They didn't have the funds to justify the £200 plus all the other costs for the programmes so did as you said a newspaper style thing for the match. The FAI though took the £200 off the gate anyway.Quote:
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Is there any way to post photos and I'll put the article up. I can't seem to add photos for some reason, might be because I'm on my phone
Interesting. I wasn't aware the FAI charge(d) to produce programmes for semi finals. Obviously the money involved increased significantly from 1985 to 1987. The Galway v Limerick replay in Athlone in 1985 was the most recent neutral venue game hosted by the FAI and they didn't bother producing a programme. I can think of maybe 5 years from 1971-1985 when the FAI produced semi final programmes. Even when they did issue they normally didn't bother for replays eg 1980 & 1985. Otherwise nothing was produced except the odd club issue such as Cork Hibs 1973. I can't recall who did the 1974 Harps v Athlone issue but pretty sure it wasn't the FAI.
Indeed when Limerick produced an unauthorised programme for the semi final v Drogheda in 1977 (nothing else done) they were allowed produce the official issue for the replay. Unfortunately I couldn't persuade my father to drive to Dublin for a 3rd time (and him miss work and me school) for the 2nd replay and I've never seen a programme for it.
According to the article it was post 85 they started this "franchising" so that would make sense timescale wise.
I don't know if this would be the right thread but if anybody has seen the movie sing street on the wall in one of the kids rooms are some posters of shamrock rovers teams, including what looks like (they're slightly out of focus) the team from the last season, maybe game?, at Milltown. Quite a cool LOI Easter egg.
Wow great spot. Saw it in the cinema last year. Didn't notice that. Terrific movie tho. Drive it like ya stole it!Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Yeah class film. Love seeing subtle little LOI references in things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer