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1-1, Benno
Didn't see this happening tonight, but we are heading for a defeat. Vernon puts pats back in front.
Christ, 3-1.
Very disappointing this
That's a result - and that's the title
Didn't see that coming but very happy. One win needed to win the league now.
Congratulations lads. Possibly the best of the 3 title wins? We try again next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
P.S Please let us have the cup at least
Delighted with that really helps raise the spirts , what a cracker by Sam Verdon.
Eh no! The results tonight will also help the fixture congestion. If we beat Bohs then the last two games are meaningless.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
On the cup final, I saw a tweet that said Bolgers yellow was his 8th of the season so he could miss the final.
A week and a half ago it looked like City had turned it around. 3 games later it's 'Good night Vienna' It is the #GreatestLeagueInTheWorld
Fantastic achievement. This was the most impressive of the other 2. Taking into account the European matches and that it was a phenomenonal achievement.
I actually did think Cork would catch us and win the title even after last week's match but words cannot describe this team
Really do feel for Cork as they are a good team and deserve some reward for it. Thankfully they have the presidents cup
I'm always for keeping these things separate. Suspensions in the cup should be only for cards accumulated in the cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
A lot of Dundalk fans (well the ones I know) did not think we had the legs for both a european run and another league... I think cork dropped points at important moments to drive that home and missed an opportunity. In saying that its not over yet , but it certainly gives dundalk a lot more room to rest players coming into the final and other European games.
Side note, only 300-400 at the Pats game ? (I have seen on twitter)... If thats true , what an absolute shame. They won the league only 3 years ago and did well in europe this year. No mid table team in Ireland should have that crowd anyways on a monday or not.
Fair play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
I hope they can go into the Zenit game on a bit of a high now and not be too tired... would be a pity in the home leg to get hammered... :S
Your compassion doesn't soften the blow. Very frustrating if it weren't for ye, we could be the ones getting the three in a row. Thought the presidents cup was a turning of the tides kind of game and that belief was reinforced by the two victories over ye after that. The critical part was the games we dropped points in after we exited Europe. 7 days ago I thought we would do it, and now here we are 7 points behind. Football is a strange old game.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
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Originally Posted by patrickccfc
Yeah, must be a strange feeling to finish second 3 times. I thought the changing point for Dundalk was wining the league Cup in 2014, and so the presidents cup could have been for cork, as its always important to break that duck. This is the first year that Cork ended with a better head to head in the league and to still not push it to the end must be frustrating. Cork did look like a different animal with Maguire up front and are kind of in an Arsenal position now, would take a brave/reckless (only time would tell) decision to get rid of caulfield
I always believed Dundalk would win it, even with the european matches and the run of league games to squeeze in, as apart from the Zenit match, Cork had the same schedule. I just felt Kenny had the players focused, and apart from the Sligo blip, it never really looked like we would allow Cork to get past us. Cork may have got a huge boost with that 5-0 away win in Galway, but they still had to come to Dundalk and win, I never thought that would happen, we were stronger all over the park that night.
It is a fair suggestion though, if it wasn't for Dundalk and Kenny, Cork could possibly won a league during 2014-16, but I`m not so sure Caulfield is the right man, he doesn't strike me as a league winning manager. He has a chance in the cup final though to finally get some silverware.
On the near certainty that we do win the league now, this has to be one of the best ever league titles by Dundalk given the progress the club has made in Europe with a chance of making the last 32 in the EL.
If we do win it on Sunday night at home to Bohs, that will be title no 12 for the club, incredible achievement really, considering 8 seasons from 1999/00 to 2008 were spent in the FD, and before 2014 it was 19 years since the last title.
Yeah, very poor crowd. I'm didn't think it was that low (I'd have thought maybe double that ?) but I couldn't see the full stand from where I was. Regardless, we should be doing much better. Combination I think of our pretty lousy season, Monday night, and Man U/Liverpool on the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
The result helped though :p Probably our best performance of the season, for spirit and guts alone. This team doesn't show enough fight and commitment for my liking at times, but it was there tonight. Get O'Brien typified it,terrific performance. Two lovely goals from Christy Fagan (trying to curry favour with his new employers ?) and especialy Sam Verdon. Would have preferred that performance in the cup, but such is life.
I thought they brought in a rule after we had Richie Ryan and Blinkhorn miss the 2010 cup final with yellow cards totting up that players wouldn't miss the cup final cause of yellow cards anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Well done Dundalk, best team won in the end (assuming you don't do a Rovers on it).
Devon Lock is dead and buriedQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
That's right. Players will only miss the cup final if they're serving a red card suspensionQuote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Sad to see that crowd figure at Pats. They really need to do some basic promotion/marketing of the club and what they have to offer. What not offer some free/cheap tickets for a game like tonight to youngsters etc for example.
Too much was read into those games. The same weaknesses continue to exist. No plan B except hoof it to the little man.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
Well Caulfield did say that it was unusual playing with no atmosphere and that his team were lulled in to that lack of urgency and hence lost the game! So on this occasion a low crowd turnout would seeming have helped us!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
Jesus, I thought Rovers managers were good at making excuses. That's an absolute banger. Fair play.
How many fans did a Cork team challenging for the league bring?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Has said stuff like that on numerous occasions. Had a go off Limerick one time before they moved in to Markets Field and after another Pats game complained that Dublin clubs don't market their games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Manager in blaming everyone but himself shocker. Caulfield is just more creative than most. I'm sure he'll move onto Dugout positioning and fixture congestion in the future.
Question for Cork fans do you think postponing the 3rd dundalk fixture from sept to October would of made a difference?
If only they had thought of that. Like most LOI clubs I have no doubt they are doing their best but a meaningless game on a Monday night on the back of a woeful season and up against the biggest fixture in the English calendar was always going to be near impossible to sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
The league was over before last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
In hindsight maybe. We were unlucky in that the same two players got called up again ahead of the Dundalk game. I don't think we could have beaten you without Kevin and Seanie. But by the time we played you Kevin was dead on his feet. He should have been taken off when we were 3-0 up in Galway.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
I stand behind postponing the game though. We would have been playing with two hands tied behind our backs.
I think Cork are a good side, the problem is they have been up against a brilliant side for the last 2 seasons, and a very good side for 2014, for me this was Cork's best chance to win the league (2014). That last game they 'only' needed a draw but Dundalk won it easily in the end. I think overall the amount of missed opportunities will haunt them more than anything.
The loss and draw at home to Sligo and Bohs in the same week this season, that Dundalk lost away to Galway and Bray, both suffering euro hangovers, was a huge turning point and it was the chance for Cork to take advantage and they couldn't. They also drew too many games, and this took away from the two wins over Dundalk. I still think Cork improved on last year, now they will need to improve again to challenge next season, coming runners up 3 years in a row is tough though. There is no doubt about that.
Older members might recall Bohs had something similar with the 4 in a row Rovers team from 84-87, think they came 2nd to Rovers at least twice, then for added insult Rovers took their best players too.
Would Cork fans consider winning the FAI Cup to be a successful season ? Its nothing to be sniffed at, I think it should be seen as a good season if they win it. Also Dundalk will be back from a fairly tough evening you would think in St Petersberg. I think I heard the plans are to stay an extra night in Russia on the Thursday night, and travel back on Friday, but its still going to be a tough preparation.
Ask me on the day. Right now it feels like a consolation at best. I think this is the closest we've come to winning a title. I know we took it to the last day in 2014, but that was a weird season with a lot of last minute winners, and we didn't ever really think we had a chance, up until Dundalk started dropping points late on. This year felt like the year we were going to do it.
Maybe if last weeks game had been held the Sunday or Monday after the season ended we'd have run you closer. I think after losing last week the title was gone. Maybe if Rovers had done something on Friday we might have had a chance, but heads were down on Friday, and I'd say similar last night.
Tiredness comes in many forms. Physical tiredness is one thing, but while we were fighting for the title it was easy to ignore. I'm sure Dundalk are physically exhausted, but mentally they are able to keep going because they have so much left to fight for. Our team has nothing left to play for now, not in the league at least.
To be fair to Cork, I saw the same thing happen with Pats in 2012. We ran Sligo close but when they beat us, we just stopped playing and Drogheda ended up 2nd. No doubt Pats were the 2nd best team though
The difference was Pats went on to win the league in 2013 of course.
Cork looked all out of idea last night. Clearly a one off as they showed in the cup game how superior they are to Pats. The only issue now is Caulfield the man to bring them on? They will hardly get a better chance to win the league as this year
In fairness to Pats as well, I think we showed a good bit more fight in the game last night than we did in the semi final. I don't know why this would be the case, logically you'd have thought it should have been the other way around. I can't help thinking if we'd shown that attitude more often during the season we could have got Europe again. Let's face it, neither Rovers or Derry are anything special.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If pats didnt have Christy Fagan, they'd be relegation material.
you better hope he signs up again next year. you should expect a brennan or two anyway!:p
I would agree with what you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
I look forward to the Cup Final as I see it as a reason for further progress & not as a consolation prize. I think our best eleven can put it up to Dundalk on the day in a one off game. Some of our guys will have a point to prove because it is likely that at least four or five of our present squad won’t be with us next season.
Who do you think will be leaving your squad?Quote:
Originally Posted by disgruntled
I would expect Healy,Holohan,Turner, D Morrissey & probably Mulcahy to go+one or two keepers.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Most of those were bench players.
If we lose any more then major rebuilding will be needed.