2017 UEFA Under-17 Championships

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04/05/2017, 9:15 AM
tetsujin1979

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

Full fixture times and details here: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/...uro-challenge/

Will all the games be on Eurosport?

The Germany game is on Eurosport on Wednesday, thought I read the game on Sunday will be online
04/05/2017, 9:37 AM
DeLorean

UEFA are experimenting with a new 'ABBA' penalty system for this tournament, along with the women's version, assuming the need arises obviously. The order in which the kicks will be taken will be very similar to a tie break in tennis.

Although it only mentions the new format being trailed in the women's competition on UEFA.com, various other websites indicate it will be in place for the men's also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UEFA.com

The trial system will work as follows:

• 1st kick: Team A – 2nd kick: Team B
• 3rd kick: Team B – 4th kick: Team A
• 5th kick: Team A – 6th kick: Team B
• 7th kick: Team B – 8th kick: Team A
• 9th kick: Team A – 10th kick: Team B

In the case of equality

• 11th kick: Team B – 12th kick: Team A

If still equal

• 13th kick: Team A – 14th kick: Team B

and so on …
04/05/2017, 9:50 AM
DannyInvincible

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Hook. Line. Sinker.

http://media1.giphy.com/media/NZhO1SEuFmhj2/giphy.gif
04/05/2017, 10:00 AM
Real ale Madrid

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeLorean

UEFA are experimenting with a new 'ABBA' penalty system for this tournament,

Mamma Mia that sounds good. Could be a Waterloo moment for European football, in any case whichever they use the winner will take it all.

Good luck to the lads today.
04/05/2017, 1:45 PM
tetsujin1979

Live text commentary on uefa.com from 3:30: http://www.uefa.com/under17/season=2...&match=2022590
04/05/2017, 2:10 PM
Closed Account

Germany 5-0 Bosnia. That result would suggest our chances of progressing largely depend on this game.
Suprised Connolly isn't starting.
edit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAIreland Twitter

Team captain Lee O'Connor & top scorer Aaron Connolly both start on the bench as they continue their return from injury. #IRLU17

Maher (St Pats)

Nolan (St Pats), Collins (Stoke), Doherty(c) (Sheff U), Ledwidge (St Kevins)

O’Farrell (St Pats), Bolger (Shamrock R), Roache (Blackpool)

Thompson (Wolves), Idah (College Cths), Kilkenny (Bournemouth)

Subs:
Clarke (Bohemians)
O’Connor (Man Utd),
Connolly (Brighton)
Kavanagh (Bohs)
Walsh (Waterford)
Redmond (Birmingham)
Wright (Lakewood)

http://cdn20.crichd.be/euro-sport-1-live-streaming
04/05/2017, 2:31 PM
tetsujin1979

Connolly and O'Connor are still recovering from injury according to the FAI on twitter: https://twitter.com/FAIreland/status...25849718317057

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Team captain Lee O'Connor & top scorer Aaron Connolly both start on the bench as they continue their return from injury.
04/05/2017, 2:42 PM
rooster

Link to watch it

http://www.olweb.tv/big_player.php?a...ort-1&server=1
04/05/2017, 3:39 PM
Closed Account

Connolly on at half time, denied a penalty.

Lively again from Connolly, clips the outside of the post.
67mins gone

Goal Serbia, ****e

All over, uphill battle now Geoff.
04/05/2017, 4:00 PM
DeLorean

They haven't scored yet on my Mobdro app!

Edit- they have now. Very good header in fairness after Connolly let him go. We were looking very comfortable and the more likely too from what I had seen.

Gave away an indirect free kick for picking up a back pass in the build up to the corner (from which the goal was scored) so a bit of a shambolic series of events.
07/05/2017, 12:22 PM
DeLorean

Germany beat Serbia 3-1 earlier. We kick off against Bosnia-Herzegovina at 15:30. Don't think it's televised.
07/05/2017, 1:32 PM
tetsujin1979

Think it's on eurosport.com
07/05/2017, 1:42 PM
DeLorean

I read somewhere that it's on the Eurosport Player App too, need a subscription for that though. €6.99/month.
07/05/2017, 2:39 PM
Closed Account

Early goal for Roache. 1-0 Ireland.

Early equaliser too. 1-1
07/05/2017, 3:05 PM
DeLorean

Back in front, Uche Idah penalty.
07/05/2017, 3:06 PM
DeLorean

I note from the as it stands table that head-to-heads supercede GD, that's not good.
07/05/2017, 3:07 PM
Closed Account

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5l...-u17-0-1_sport

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5l...-u17-1-2_sport

Finished 2-1

Germany 6pts +7 (+1max if 3 teams finish on 6)
Serbia 3pts -1 (-1def if 3 teams finish on 6, 0max if 3 teams finish on 3)
Ireland 3pts 0 (0min if 3 teams finish on 6, 0def if 3 teams finish on 3)
Bosnia 0pts -6 (0min if 3 teams finish on 3)

If we beat Germany we go through by my calculations. Or Bosnia 1-0 regardless of our result against Germany.
Serbia win means we have to beat Germany(win by 2 puts us top)
Serbia draw means we have to beat Germany and will finish top.
Serbia 1-0 loss qualifies us on H2H v Bosnia, 2-1, 3-2, 4-3 or a loss by more than 1 goal, would mean we need a least a point against Germany Complicated)
Germany aren't mathematically qualified either so won't be playing 2nd string I imagine.

Source:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uefa rules

If two or more teams in the same group are equal on points on completion of the
group matches, the following criteria are applied, in the order given, to determine
the rankings:
a. higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the
teams in question;
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II – Competition System
b. superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in
question;
c. higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams
in question;
d. if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking,
criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the group matches between the
teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not
lead to a decision, criteria e) to i) apply;
e. superior goal difference in all group matches;
f. higher number of goals scored in all group matches;
g. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received in
all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for
two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);
h. higher position in the coefficient ranking list used for the qualifying round
draw;
i. drawing of lots.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...7_DOWNLOAD.pdf
07/05/2017, 4:14 PM
DeLorean

Finished 2-1. Hopefully Germany will rest a few against us and B&H take something off their old foes!
09/05/2017, 9:54 AM
tetsujin1979

Highlight on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LaIPXJpaD0
09/05/2017, 7:47 PM
DannyInvincible

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Highlight on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LaIPXJpaD0

Maybe fortunate to hang on for the win in the end.
09/05/2017, 11:59 PM
DannyInvincible

The game against Germany kicks off at 11AM (Irish time) tomorrow (Wednesday) morning and will be live on Eurosport 1.
10/05/2017, 10:05 AM
tetsujin1979

Live text commentary here: http://www.uefa.com/under17/season=2...&match=2022605
10/05/2017, 10:17 AM
DeLorean

Down 1-0 already, very soft goal if nicely worked from a German point of view. Goalscorer basically had a free shot from around the penalty spot after losing Collins (I think it was).

Germany made five changes to the side that started the previous match, not sure how many were enforced so nothing too radical anyway.

They have a guy called Maurice Malone up front... surely one for the eligibility thread maybe. :)

Jaysus... 2-0... great strike from the edge of the penalty box but again way too much space.

We had actually started pretty well, Connolly getting on a lot of ball early on.
10/05/2017, 10:18 AM
DannyInvincible

Germany are already 2-0 up after 15 minutes.
10/05/2017, 10:21 AM
DannyInvincible

Live stream here: http://www.stream2watch.cc/live-tele...rt-live-stream

(Sound doesn't appear to be working though.)
10/05/2017, 10:24 AM
DannyInvincible

3-0 now... :(
10/05/2017, 10:25 AM
DeLorean

3-0. Yikes.
10/05/2017, 10:51 AM
tetsujin1979

Bosnia-Herzegovina are drawing 0-0 with Serbia. A 1-0 Bosnia win would see us through, but it looks like it's all Serbia
10/05/2017, 11:01 AM
Stuttgart88

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeLorean

3-0. Yikes.

My dad would say "that'd be a good one to win".
10/05/2017, 11:03 AM
DeLorean

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Bosnia-Herzegovina are drawing 0-0 with Serbia. A 1-0 Bosnia win would see us through, but it looks like it's all Serbia

What kind of criteria are they using? A 1-0 for Bosnia would mean that themselves, ourselves and Serbia are all tied exactly on goals scored, goal difference and points. You'd think Serbia would surely have the edge in that scenario having lost by the least amount of goals to Germany (as things stand)?
10/05/2017, 11:03 AM
Real ale Madrid

4-0 now
10/05/2017, 11:04 AM
Real ale Madrid

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeLorean

What kind of criteria are they using? A 1-0 for Bosnia would mean that themselves, ourselves and Serbia are all tied exactly on goals scored, goal difference and points. You'd think Serbia would surely have the edge in that scenario having lost by the least amount of goals to Germany (as things stand)?

No ourselves and Bosnia would have 2 goals scored and conceded if you match the 3 results - and we beat Bosnia.
10/05/2017, 11:05 AM
DeLorean

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

4-0 now

Whatever. Come on Bosnia :p
10/05/2017, 11:06 AM
DeLorean

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

No ourselves and Bosnia would have 2 goals scored and conceded if you match the 3 results - and we beat Bosnia.

Oh yeah, had 2-1 instead of 1-0 in my head for Serbia's win against us.
10/05/2017, 11:07 AM
DannyInvincible

Aaron Connolly booked for simulation inside the German box. It did look like he stuck his leg out looking for "contact", in fairness.
10/05/2017, 11:07 AM
Real ale Madrid

5-0, O'Brien out.
10/05/2017, 11:08 AM
DannyInvincible

5-0 now.
10/05/2017, 11:09 AM
DeLorean

Some dreadful goals. Don't want to sound too harsh on a young fella but the Collins chap looks all at sea.
10/05/2017, 11:11 AM
DannyInvincible

The lack of competitiveness is ominous and certainly doesn't bode well for the future. If this game is anything to go by, it seems we'll still be lagging well behind Europe's elite sides in years to come.
10/05/2017, 11:14 AM
DeLorean

I don't think Germany will ever be our benchmark to be fair, we should have beaten Serbia from what I saw and did beat Bosnia so not a bad showing overall really. Disappointing to bow out like this though.

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