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Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Then we're really lucky that Stam got the job because, if there's one lesson we can take from the Mexico game, it's that having compact, pacy, technically adept midfielders can be a bit of an asset, to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
Manning at QPR was being passed on till they changed manager wasn't he ? He could have been back home with a didn't measure up tag when he was plenty good enough for a chance at the very least. Pure lottery much of it for all the well paid guys in roles at these clubs to judge these matters.
Excellent point. We sorely need the likes of Liam Kelly in the team (a player who can hold the ball and make something happen).Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
Terrific game tonight for Kelly, bagging both goals as Reading knocked Gillingham out of the EFL Cup: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40785978
Two cracking strikes they were too - https://youtu.be/vu8ivUmW2Qs?t=1m
And his interview afterwards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtMpiZojMww
He is a brilliant player, I really hope he is in the next squad and even maybe make the bench
Another goal for Kelly. Could he be on the move before the window closes? Wouldn't surprise me.
I don't see any reason for him to move. He's at a club where he's trusted, is advancing rapidly and who should be there or thereabouts for promotion again.
He's a lovely striker of the ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QKC575VOZU
Absolute stunner of a strike - Kelly, Hourihane and Browne have got to be the priorities in midfield to get some caps in the next few friendlies
maybe comes at a good time for him. his season has been a bit low key danger he might fall out of the limelight. hopefully he is in the turkey squadQuote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
Whatever about Kelly, Browne and Hourihane definitely deserve their go in the senior side. Both are instrumental at their clubs. Kelly has not been as regular as he would have liked, I suspect.
Kelly's screamer at 0:39, Richard Keogh's goal at 1:12.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jqm4tO_Xb8
Kelly might suit international football . Hopefully a small fella might get more protection at international level . Thats what I am hoping for anyway .
Think you're right about that. He's a very neat and tidy player, something we are lacking in the national team at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
He's not playing in a great team at the moment (Reading) - would really benefit to a move to a ball playing team. I have a feeling he has a long international career ahead of him
Kelly has more ability than either of those players. But nonetheless I would still like to see both Hourihane and Browne get a run out. They have plenty of drive and passion about them.
I thought Jaap Stam was all about the ball playing?Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
I was watching Kelly's goal on youtube, and the recommendations included his free kick against Chelsea in the U21 Premier League a few years ago. The goal from the weekend is further out, but the ball ends up in the same spot in the goal
Im really disappointed he is a lovely player, terrible decision I have to say, he will never play for England
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-36724753.html
Yes, very bad news ok. When someone called Liam Kelly sets his heart on England, it is a sad state of affairs. Time for this thread to move to World Football and to rot along side the Jack Grealish thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
He hasn't actually declared for England. It seems he is going to hold off on getting too involved in our senior set-up for now or making what might be perceived as a sort of moral commitment. He is a dual national, after all. Of course, he'll probably jump at the chance to play for England if the FA offer it to him, so it doesn't look good for us from that perspective, but he still might end up sticking with us.
I am disappointed as he looks like he'll be a great talent, but it's ultimately his choice what to do with that talent.
Never trust a shortarse
Danny should be no excuse here , he knows the rubbish that went on with the Grealish affair.
Made a big deal about how proud and Irish he is.
Should not be playing till this level before needing time to make a decision , if your Irish you know it , irrelevant of where you were born. Could be born in a stable doesn’t make you a donkey
It is a bit of a Grealish situation but at least he was been pretty up front what his preferences are, so credit for that but it kind
of makes any future Ireland call up rather awkward.
I guess he missed the rugby at the weekend.
Neither does it make you the messiah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunners
We will rise again.
He probably won't.
I suppose, since he started representing us about five years ago, to his now age of 22, your view of your place in the world, your identity forms a lot, can change a lot also. Or maybe its just another agent in a lads ear with bad advice serving only the agent well should an unlikely set of circumstances prevail here, i.e. a Prem move and from there to England reckoning. One thing is for sure, how he has handled this could not have been poorer (so poor it makes me wonder if there is something we don't yet know). I have lived in the UK since 2005 and my view of dual lads has softened in that time, some feel English, some Irish, and some do just feel both, that they can credibly represent either nation. But there is a way of handling that, respectfully, and Liam Kelly failed badly in that.
I'm not doubting he feels Irish, but maybe he feels English too and is genuinely conflicted. It's possible to feel both Irish and English simultaneously. It would hardly be surprising if you have both Irish and English grandparents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunners
A certain Clinton Morrison procrastinated before deciding to represent Ireland and his commitment and passion to the cause were always evident. Give Kelly time, hopefully he will make the right decision.
At 22 having been in the set up for a number of years he should know what he wants by now.
Very disrespectful that he wouldn't even answer MONs calls and just sent a text to say that he didn't want to be involved... that speaks volumes for his character I think. Hes probably looking at the England squad with Jake Livermore getting call ups and thinks he has a good chance, he probably does, Ive been impressed with him with the little I seen of him so its a pity that we have probably lost him. But maybe we are well rid if he cant even bother his ar$e having the manners or respect for a senior figure in the game to even answer a phone call.
Clinton wasn't a shortarse though. I don't think Stutts stressed this enough.
Refusing to answer calls doesn't speak much to his character really, does it? He sounds more Jack Grealish than Declan Rice. Both of whole had PL experience under their belts when MON was picking up the phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
That's the problem I think, he does know. It's just not what we want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
It does seem like it could have been handled better alright but we've only heard one side of the story.
Very badly handled by Kelly. The whole text message thing is very poor. It's the sort of thing you would expect of a teenager, not a 22 year old man. There is a point there about how sheltered these players are by their clubs and the impact that has on their personality, but I can't be bothered getting in to it.
He's a bright prospect but he's a year older than Deli Alli and playing at the bottom end of the championship. Exposure to international football with us was his best opportunity to demonstrate his capacity to play at a higher level. It's a loss to the squad but he is the biggest loser here.
But no ill will towards him. If this is how he feels It's best we find out now. We move on with what we have.
He will never get anywhere near then England squad.
Reading are 5th last in the championship and could easily go down, he should be biting off our hand off to play. If they do go down and he is an Irish international, he 100% gets bought
For some reason, I think there is more to this than just Liam Kelly waiting for a call from England.
Call it a hunch! :D
Spill...Quote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
Ok Detective Columbo... we are waiting?Quote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
The little boll!x.
Ah no, if he doesn’t feel it then good luck to him. Shame for us but I’d rather him be honest than take a jersey from someone bursting a gut to get it
Stam sacked from Reading today. He would be back at Bath City potentially only for Stam. Any link?Quote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
I have nothing to spill. It's just a feeling... an uneasy one!