Was definitely more of an attacking player at both Mervue and Galway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
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Was definitely more of an attacking player at both Mervue and Galway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Is it me or do we have more players at the top half of the championship now than in a long time? Maybe I'm only noticing more now because they are young and breaking through but the numbers seem greater.
I think our player numbers are steadily increasing across the divisions in the last year or so, after bottoming out just before that.
At the same time a bit disappointing that there is so little Irish involvement in the championship playoffs this year. Only Fulham of the four teams have Irish players in the first team and also Leeds who were promoted have no Irish first team players. So still plenty of room for improvement.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ansfer-window/
Manning keeps getting linked with a Premier League move. I haven't seen much of him this season but his defensive capabilities keep getting highlighted as being insufficient. His attacking qualities are obviously borne out by his impressive stats. So, I'm not sure if the links are drummed up by representatives. Or if they're genuine and his defensive weaknesses aren't as irreparable as some would have you believe. Or if the clubs linked don't see him as a long term left back.
It's a strange one.
I don't think it's that strange. I think there's always what I'd call "highlight bias."
Players who show up in the highlights for the right reasons (generally offensively) will always attract the interest of clubs on a more regular basis, even though that might not represent the totality of their contribution.
I imagine there are some elite defenders who are slow to rise to higher levels of the game despite their effectiveness, simply because they contribute minimally offensively.
So you think that Premiership clubs would sign a player based on highlights and would avoid doing the due diligence that a lot of Ireland supporters would, even though it would be they forking out the millions?
They won't make decisions based on highlights. I just believe that offensive contributions more often lead to transfers. There's also a general attitude that defending can be taught, but offensive skill is generally something you have or you don't, which probably plays into that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
I did say in my initial post: "Or if they're genuine and his defensive weaknesses aren't as irreparable as some would have you believe."Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
Disagree on both your points.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
It's being suggested that Manning may be frozen out by Warburton due to his reluctance to sign a new contract. It would be disappointing if his current rate of progress and career momentum were disrupted in this way - just look at how it affected O'Dowda...
Recently signed with a new agency, so we'll see how it plays out.
https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/...-latest-110920
If either of the Two were of a High Enough Quality it is amazing how these things would be sorted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Manning isn't in the squad for QPR today...
Manning absence explained:
https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/...anning-absence
Hard to see how freezing him out will achieve anything other than chase him away from the club. Even if the Premier League interest doesn't materialise there must be quite a few Championship teams that could afford him with just a year left on his contract.
Yep. Terrible management.
Tony Mowbray (Blackburn) still very keen on Ryan M, according to Lancashire Telegraph today (18/09/20).
Financial considerations aside, that would appear to be a bit of a pointless move for Manning - simply swapping one mid-table Championship side for another.
a few more premier league teams interested in this guy. whats next?
Really? Like who?
Mowbray on Manning:
Is there anything you can tell us on Ryan Manning?
"No. That's a name you've just thrown at me. It's not true. I think Ryan Manning is a very good footballer, I imagine QPR are not going to let him walk away.
"We haven't got any money to buy anybody. How much is Ryan Manning going to cross(cost?)? If you're going to buy a player, you have to buy the player and then you have to give him a salary.
"I know exactly to the penny how much we've got but it's probably a couple of loans or a signing, I would suggest, and I'm not sure I'd want to spend it all on Ryan Manning when we've got Amari'i Bell doing ok, so there's other areas I feel we need to strengthen first."
Some evidence of these teams' interest would be niceQuote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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To me he’s a lad that got way too far ahead of himself, likely with his agent whispering in his ear. He has been substandard since the start of the 2020, coinciding with his reluctance to sign an extended contract and some loose rumors of premier league interest. He’s far better off trying to establish himself firmly in the championship for a longer period, improve his woeful defensive skills, and then see what opportunities arise in a couple of years.
From the 8 or 9 QPR games I watched him in, he’d get swallowed alive at a higher level at the current time
That's not evidence. That's a list of club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
You might be right but this is a lad who stayed in Ireland until he was 18 to do his leaving cert and got 550 points while he was at it. I'm sure there are legitimate reasons for this. Maybe the money at QPR compares poorly to other clubs. Maybe he fancies nailing down centre midfield as his long term position. Leaving QPR is hardly career suicide. Blackburn have been.the most recent link.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Agree leaving QPR is not suicide and QPR are having financial issues so he may see his future elsewhere. But he’s let the whole thing affect his career as he was finally developing and playing well. He has been a different player since January, and has been in and out of the team, and now looks to be frozen out completely. His desire to engineer a move out from QPR seemed a bit premature
But I don't think we know when it went from 'negotiating a new contract' to 'engineering a move out'.
As per Sky Sports, QPR have accepted an offer from Swansea for Manning.
It would be great to see him back playing again.
of course he didnt wanna sign another with qpr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
he should have gone to Parkhead instead.
Missed Swansea being back in the premier league.
Manning from QPR to Swansea seems to be confirmed.
Manning to QPR to Swansea is confirmed
https://www.swanseacity.com/news/swa...r-ryan-manning
That's a good move. Up the table. Progressive manager.
One thing to note is that Swansea play wing backs. So it's conceivable and likely that he's being signed to play left wing back. It's fine for him at a club level as many sides are playing with wing backs, even the England national team is. However, it's unlikely Kenny will go down that route. We have Doherty and Stevens who have played a lot of football at wing back as our international full backs. However, both started out as full backs before moving in wing back- Manning started out as a winger or central midfielder before moving in there. I can't see him pushing Stevens for the full back spot in the national team.
If he were to get games midfield and do well then he'd be quite close to a squad place given he is a leftie too.
The hope would be that he can develop the defensive side of his game over time. At present it's not good enough. But I don't think he'll ever break into the Ireland team on the left of a front three position and I don't know that he works as part of a midfield three either. Hopefully playing in a slightly better team will help him to develop that side of his game and he can become an option for us over time as we don't have a natural backup for Stevens at the moment.
yeah and motm performance as a old fashioned number 10, in center stage. Very involved in good football passing against the candidates of promotion
man of the match, as left midfielder, left winger
cant play as left back at all!
It's a real pity the career-path Manning has undergone. He was a regular and really excelling at QPR and has been reduced to a rarely-used squad player at Swansea.
It'll be very difficult for anyone to justify his inclusion in any future squad given his lack of game-time over the previous 12 months.
He's played 8/14 games, in a promotion-chasing, in-form team. Hardly a disaster.
We're so short at left back that he should definitely be included. I don't think left back is his best position and thought he was poor on his international debut but his versatility should get him the nod. He hasn't done too poorly at Swansea by all accounts.