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Well if you read my tweets that night I was commenting before the game that stewards were awful, I made another comment at half time. The "they got their wish" tweet was clearly not literal FFS. However I absolutely stand by the gist of my comments (that is to say that the awful Dundalk stewarding would lead to problems sooner or later).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Ok so would you like to clarify exactly what your issues were on the night? Your own personl experience and examples, from before the game and on, not in ragarding to the accident or overcrowding which we all have now a fair idea how these may have come about.
No, as I said yesterday, I'm trying to leave it now. We'll see what FAI/clubs say
Fair enough! Though what is being investigated is what happend with the injured and how terrace fans were allowed into the stand. What happend before the game and throughout remains a mystery, But your silence speaks volumes!
All aspects of the night are being investigated (as per Pats security team). You've read my tweets apparently. I haven't been silent on this. What I'm doing now is refusing to re-hash itQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Don't know where your coming from considering THE LOI BLOG didn't write a single article regarding the incident, all we did was send the fan in question a get well soon message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
http://www.theloiblog.com/NewsStory.aspx?n=503Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Why do you shout THE LOI BLOG like that? I hope you do this in person too.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
I'd hardly call someone that was at the game and in the stand describing what they heard and saw as gutter journalism but each to their own I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
But now that you raise it, I would not describe what John Doyle wrote as journalism.
I posted the link in response to your earlier post which was equally inaccurate:
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Originally Posted by outspoken
Christ that LOI blog is horrifically designed. Not having a cut off them, fair play for the effort, but if it was easier to navigate and looked a bit nicer they'd get far more hits.
Yeh the website is shocking bad. Fair play to them and all, but its a terrible layout. along with them stealing other peoples work too.
Thanks for the feedback, nothing wrong with some fair criticism. We are currently working on a new website and have a number of web designers helping us out.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
Ezekial has cleared it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Just on this, does that mean contributors are free to post what they like or do you or someone else hold editorial control?
For the record, I wasn't the person who brought up the LOI blog as "gutter" journalism. I asked for examples and that's what the OP provided
No we recently got an editor on board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
That's a brave allegation to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
They acknowledged it themselves a while back on their Facebook profile.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I know one reporter from Extratime that put mistakes in his report on purpose to see were they just copy and pasting it exact same mistakes then showed up in LOI Blogs report. They have said they have stopped doing it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Not going to lie mistakes were made when we started out 3 years ago but if you look at every article on the current website it's all original writing bare press releases etc. Whether you love us or hate us we do cover a lot of transfers/news that other sites sometimes don't. There is a market out there for LOI sites that needs to be filled.
I was told by 2 of yer reporters that you still use Extratimes stuff but just change the words around. especially for match reports
Like the Barry Ryan Retirement story a couple of years ago :P hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
http://foot.ie/archive/index.php/t-138234.html
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Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
Wonder has the other Barry Ryan come out of retirement yet.
I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by dejadem
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Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
That, both, is most definitely not on. That's just poor form. Hard to build a site with all the right intentions only to have whoever is writing for you shove it back in your face with plagiarised work.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
Whoever told ya that is having ya on. Take a look at any of our reports from this weekend and you'll see they are 100% original. Anyway I think this thread has gone miles off topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
Perhaps largely because of these posts from you?Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
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Originally Posted by outspoken
I called it that. I was there and in the same area as the press box. I don't want to drag the topic on even further but I can send you a PM to outline areas of the article in particular two paragraphs which I found were wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Nah they weren't having me on. They go to the Live Updates of extratime and basically write their reports from that
Well, there are some professional journalists who do just that from time to time, so... :ghost:Quote:
Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
The writer of the article wasn't in the press box. he was sitting on the steps in the stand in front of meQuote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
Who ever told you that has a chip on their shoulder, maybe one of the lads who no longer write for us. What about all the reports we get up first or games ET dot cover like friendlies and Cobh V Longford? Anyway can we please leave it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
No no they both still work for ye haha Not saying ye don't have a good service going. But the problem i have is the way its run. Anyways Kieran ya well leave it there
Fair play to the Loi blog, their work in first division is quite good and sometimes even better than Extratime's work.
Dundalk fined for their 'hosting' of the match against Pat's. The FAI should be making this public so mistakes can be learned from. This shouldn't be allowed happen again.
Is there an FAI statement forthcoming do you know?
How much was the fine?
No. Pats event controllers were present at the FAI hearing and they weren't even told of the "result". Neil O'Riordan in the sun found out by ringing the FAI and asking themQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Neither the FAI nor Dundalk would comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by GCdfc
This is the important bit. Now we have a situation were the FAI have decided that Dundalk made errors and rather than have the whole league learn from it, it's just dealt with quietly. As I've said a number of complaints were made. Which were upheld and which were dismissed?Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey9
It has always been obvious that mistakes were made - at a minimum allowing terrace ticket holding Pats fans into the stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey9
I would welcome a statement from either Dundalk or the FAI (preferably from both) in the interests of openness and transparency - acknowledging the mistakes and outlining an intention and plan to prevent a re-occurrence.
It would be particularly interesting to know if their were any findings in relation
A) to the cause of the accident and
B) the post-accident treatment of the injured supporter
C) how stewards handled the violent behaviour of some Pats fans in the ground immediately after the match
If there was, Pats have received no sanctions from the FAI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
300 EuroQuote:
Originally Posted by GCdfc
What are you unsure about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If you were in the ground with the main body of Pats fans (either in the stand or on the terrace) surely you witnessed the violent behaviour of a number of supporters who "attacked" a security fence in front of the stand?
The main issue here is what Dundalk FC (and other clubs) can learn about improving Safety and Stewarding, but it should not be inferred that the behaviour of all fans was exemplary