Eh sorry, that was me sitting outside your gaff while you were watching the foreign game on TV. I was trying for a look of indifference rather than disapproval but it didn`t come off.Quote:
Originally Posted by KK77
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Eh sorry, that was me sitting outside your gaff while you were watching the foreign game on TV. I was trying for a look of indifference rather than disapproval but it didn`t come off.Quote:
Originally Posted by KK77
Ah, it's yourself! I was wondering whose breath that was on my neck all these years.Quote:
Originally Posted by gormacha
Fair point if the idea is to be discussed and examined further. What's the average attendance for LoI games or previous league cup finals? FAI could reserve 6000 tickets for the league finalists at a reasonable price. Tickets not bought through clubs which would be by those going for the Dublin Decider then can be the high A category price where they can milk the barstoolers. I don't think it would break any consumer laws? I think some clubs across the water have pricing systems where tickets can be got a better price depending on number of games people go to. This could be along similar lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by peadar1987
Isn't there a Bulmers ad on a dart line bridge in Dublin along the lines of North Cider, or South Cider? The Dublin DeCider should be the final of a cup competition between dublin clubs in a Bulmers cup!Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
I have to strongly disagree with this post. I don't think you could fill a bath full of baked beans for under €100.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
De Cider? No thanks.
But 'Magners Pear', now yer talking...
Where do you buy your beans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
If beans are say 80c a tin, I don't think you'd fill a bath with 125 tins.
If you shop at Musgraves it could be doable. Clearly I've put a lot of thought into this.
I thought I'd logged into food.ie there for a second!
With all the hot air surrounding this game, Blazing Saddles comes to mind! John Delaney as Hedley Lamarr seems fitting.
Between Charlie Darwin and Gormacha I thought there was another "western" movie developing, maybe one with a love that daren't speak it's name - like a Pats-Dundalk couple shacking up on Friday night last.
I hope all LOI clubs applied for tickets as they could make some easy money, they could do a draw for the tickets and make a decent sum of money from it.
I hope no LOI club want anything to do with tickets for this match considering the fact it's being held on the same weekend as a full round of League fixtures.
I don't watch football on tv i leave that for the barstoolers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Not going down well in some parts of Scotland, as Celtic have had to reschedule a league match to play in Dublin.
'Goodwin rounded on the SPFL - formed last week by a merger of the Scottish Premier League and the Scottish Football League - and claimed the move made a mockery of the Scottish game. The Irish defender said: "I'm very frustrated. I don't agree with it. I understand from a financial view what it does for Celtic. But for the game up here it is ridiculous.'
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...oodwin-1964990
Celtic must be really hard up if they're relying on JD for a dig-out!
Tbf, that was always the case.
AFAIK, Celtic got dispensation from the SPL to play this last season, once they were invited, which will be largely squad players probably anyway.
That rag, 'The Record' is just trying to stir the pot.
They played that LOI/Celtic/Man City/Inter tournament a couple of weeks into their season 2 years ago. Rangers had a friendly either a week before or after too
Irrespective of precedent, Goodwin makes a valid point. It is ridiculous for the Scottish league to make way for a friendly. And as I imagine everyone on here who has played will know, it puts huge pressure on a team when they get behind in games played early in the season. Celtic choose to do so, St. Mirren didn't.
I wonder how many of the people going to this match, were they to stumble upon this thread, would go "gosh, I HAVE been an imbecile! I must get along to my local ground ASAP!"?
All of them. They would all do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by deiseach
Goodwin is quite right, postponing league fixtures to play vanity friendlies makes a mockery of the whole charade, which had little credibility to begin with.
I would say they would all realise the LOI's problems are down to them and get along to the local grounds asap.Quote:
Originally Posted by deiseach
Fair enough, but Celtic have lots of fans in Ireland, St.Mirren don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by gormacha
And surely it's down to the SPL/SL what they do.
Presumably they were sanctioned to do so, by the FAI...
But moving venue for a league match because of a friendly game is ok?! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
What's your point caller?Quote:
Originally Posted by deiseach
So would it be okay for St. Mirren to schedule a money-spinning friendly with Manchester City or Arsenal on the same day they were scheduled to play Celtic, and just blow off the Hoops in favour of getting a big gate against one of them?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
As always in Scottish football, it's one rule for the Old Firm, another for the rest.
No, I think SDCC were wrong to bar the stadium from use that day too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
My point is this: imagine this board weren't an enclosed order. If you could reach out to the barstoolers going to the Celtic-Liverpool game, would you speak to them in the manner that some posters here seem to think is required? I wouldn't see the scales falling from many eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If you go to Liverpool forums you'll see dozens of threads complaining about day trippers and foreign fans. Do any of these stop Irish people being fans of Liverpool?Quote:
Originally Posted by deiseach
How many people have contributed to this thread? Maybe 30. Do you honestly believe that anyone thinks those 30 are representative of LOI supporters? It's the internet, the extremities are always on show.
Anyone who uses the "some mean LOIers made fun of me supporting Liverpool on the internet" line of thinking would NEVER, EVER think about going to watch a game.
And I say that as someone who couldn't care less who goes to this friendly, and how anybody chooses to spend their money. Not once have I ever attacked anyone for supporting a British side instead of an Irish one
Now I could ask "what's your point, caller?". The thread is about the Celtic-Liverpool game, and how League of Ireland supporters should view it and the people who attend it. I don't think the thread is representative of League of Ireland supporters, only of those who post on it. You don't criticise people who watch British teams? Good for you. I'd like to hear from the people who do criticise people who watch British teams. Heck, I might even learn something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
How LOI supporters should view people who attend it! PMSLQuote:
Originally Posted by deiseach
*shrugs* That's the way the thread has evolved.Quote:
Originally Posted by KK77
There isn't any way LOI supporters 'should' view it.Quote:
Originally Posted by deiseach
View it however you like.
I don't make a habit of criticising people who exclusively support a British (and, occasionally, even a Spanish) team (what would be the point?), but I do think it's a sign of a very deep malaise that they do. At this point I think its important to state that I don't think its a personal malaise, but a social, economic and cultural one that goes way beyond the whims and fancies of any individual, say, Liverpool supporter.Quote:
Originally Posted by deiseach
You could write a book on the myriad reasons why it possibly happens (a perceived poor domestic league; post-colonial servitude; globalised cultural homogenisation; the hyper-reality of late capitalism; lateral marketing enabled by media consolidation; and "just because"), but my main concern is that it is another nail in the coffin of people actually directly experiencing anything.
Supporting only a club that you cannot or do not attend is to make football, in this example, a mediated experience. This is happening everywhere and to most everything. Its a deeply problematic development for society. I try to avoid it myself by trying insofar as is possible, to always do things rather than consume things, even if this just means being a spectator in person, rather than a spectator through a TV screen. In this instance of the Liverpool/Celtic match, I'm actually quite pleased that people actually want to go and watch it in person. However, I'd prefer it if they could transfer this desire to watch football live into a more sustainable endeavour.
I instinctively feel less concerned about people who have collars and cuffs, so to speak - those that attend local football whilst supporting a British club. That however may be because it describes me too.
What? my point is there's no uniform LOI view on British football. I'd guess most have a rootng interest there. Some will invest more in their British teams than their irish ones. Others, like me, watch it on TV without "following" anyone. And some despise it.Quote:
Originally Posted by deiseach
What difference does any of it make to you? Why are you limiting the discussion to just a particular subset?
Fair enough. I never meant to imply otherwise, apologies if I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Well, the viewpoint of 'each to their own' is not usually very stimulating, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Ah now, Ardee, this is a bit like throwing a grenade on your own doorstep, isn't it? I assume you think it's perfectly understandable a bunch of Irish people would be singing in support of their British teams?
Tbf, YNWA is not exclusively a 'British' song...
It's not British at all, it's American.