Who doesn't show up at whose games ??Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
(I'm a bit slow today..)
Who doesn't show up at whose games ??Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
(I'm a bit slow today..)
Scousers. And Millwall.
As long as McGeady doesn't get sent off, the terror threat at the game should be a low grade blue.
Though the odd Irish fan with their man bag could well be a soft target.
Scousers don't show up at Millwall games and Millwall don't show up at Scouse games ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
OR
Scousers don't show up at Liverpool or Everton games and Milwall don't show up at the New Den ?
AB's answers only add to any confusion. Sensible posters don't try to analyse. Just assume and move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desyf
Hmm, some people on here are very slow today.
In general, neither group have a massive presence at 'Ingerland' games...
'Wall would be more prevalent, but both's agenda lies elsewhere.
The group that attacked the Black Lion pub on Kilburn High Road pre the 91 game all associated with Birmingham City. A couple of hundred of them came out of the Bakerloo line station just off the high road and attacked a couple of pubs but the main attack was on the Black Lion. They got cornered up at the other end of Kilburn High Road (Waterloo line station?) mostly by old Irish day labourers and London/Irish heavies. Very few Irish football fans on the High Road that day.
The Black Lion is now a very trendy gastro pub. It has left its Irish heritage behind, as have quite a few of the pubs on that stretch. The Sir Colin Campbell is one of the few which is still a relic from an earlier time. Cricklewood is less modernised, although the old Crown Hotel has been spruced up no end and is a very successful business class hotel, run by the Moran people, of Red Cow Inn fame.
Best pubs for Wednesday pre & post match?
Anybody fancy us nicking a draw or are we gonna get smashed 4-0?
Well get smashed 2-0
"We'll get smashed 2-0" or "we'll get smashed; 2-0"? :)
Stephen Quinn called into the squad instead of Paul Green
Wow, where did that come from? Welcome addition, but Trap has never spoken about him as far as I'm aware.
He's been at a few Hull games lately
Wonder if this will be on TV in the states. doubtful i guess.
It's on Setanta/SNWLQuote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Zig and Zag analyse Ire-Eng Euro 92 home game - god be with da days:o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SflSO53fKT0
Nice to see Quinn get the nod. He won Hull's player of the year too. Making a belated return to the Premiership will be a tonic. Hull will be an intriguing side to follow next season. Seeing how Brady fares in the Premiership and the level he's really at and how Meyler looks on a continuous basis in the centre of the park will be interesting stuff.
Haven't seen much of Quinn. Like Alan, he's not the paciest though?
Why has Green not got the nod?
Hamstring injury.
I read it as they don't turn up at England games. A lot of Millwall might be barred.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desyf
Maybe trap finally bowed to ll the negative comments bout him on here!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
On in the UK were I am, one of the rare chances I get to watch them on TV as opposed to a stream which is nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Could possibly watch the match in a local pub but that might not be too wise especially after recent events in Woolwich.
Why would 'Woolwich' be an issue?
Hopefully times have changed, but a good historical account of that infamous night in 95.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29298528.html
Was there fighting on the South Terrace? And was GSTQ loudly booed? It was definitely booed, but only from a section of the South Terrace.
the booing of their anthem was accross most of the stadium from my memory i'm afraid. some of our fans didnt cover themselves in glory that night. from a good 30 mins before ko there was anti english stuff coming from where i was standing on the south terrace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
the biggest threat i faced was from this Irish moron with an "up the pope" scarf. he and his mates were attempting to start the usual biggoted tripe that a certain element of our support likes to indulge itself in. when i told them that they were as bad as those rioting english fans that night he went to punch me and had to be restrained.
I was on the north terrace and heard nothing coming from north end. The 1990 game was far worse from our fans. That was pure poison.
maybe it was mainly the south terrace. its recorded here at about 45 secs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN-voEwlrkoQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
am going on wednesday and really hope that the morons among our supporters keep their pathetic songs and chants to themselves.
Why? What happened in 1990?
And that video is 1995...
Booing that dirge is all the Scots would do, whilst any 'pathetic songs and chants' is down to the experience of the individual as to how they view our neighbours in any political perspective. Trust me with that shower, 95% of any negativity won't be coming from Irish people...
Any here's yet another link featuring a one time foot.ie stalwart.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29297345.html
Neither Everton or Liverpool have any type of real presence within the English support. To be fair, because Liverpool is such an immigrant city (predominantly Irish and certainly a majority Catholic city), as can happen in such cities, there would be a significant but vocal minority that are drawn to the Orange Order/Conservative party/BNP and in extreme situations the offshoot of this would be elements being drawn to the UVF or Loyalist groups, as well as the EDL. Other scousers used to travel with England back in the 70s/80s knowing that when the inevitable riots kicked off in European cities, there were plenty of shops that could be robbed.
I was living in Liverpool in 1988 and you could just as easily have been in Dublin. In all of the pubs around the city, the Scousers were cheering for Ireland. Of course, that was at the height of Maggie's tenure in office, so your average Scouser didn't feel too English, but I'm sure it hasn't changed all that much since, despite the city's gentrification.
I went to a few games at the Old Den in the 80s when I lived in London and it was one menacing place :) The Millwall fans used to sing their version of the Teddy Bears picnic song to away fans that was pure evil.
The biggest annual Orange march in England now takes place in Southport on the fringes of Merseyside, I believe.
Because there's a lot of anti-not-English feeling knocking around after it, lots of attacks on Muslims, and the people who attack random Muslims in revenge for an attack by specific Muslims are the kind of idiots who associate all Irish people with the IRA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Very muted build up to this game and I would be very surprised if there is any trouble. England have been out of the top 10 teams in the world since around 1991. 1996 Euro semi's had a lot to do with home advantage. They might just be about to improve but they might not. We are going to play 4-5-1 with Long upfront so I am going for a boring 1-1
Suppose they should have clapped?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
currently ranked 7thQuote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Unless there's a large presence of Irish muslims at the game, even those dimwits can tell the difference, surely...
ha ha. no reply to thatQuote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
it was a sporting occasion and they should have just kept silent and then sang our own anthem louder than ever. instead we let ourselves down with pathetic booing and moronic sectarian singingQuote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Perhaps they just noticed the hostile atmosphere coming from our esteemed visitors :rolleyes: and decided to respond in kind...