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Originally Posted by Morginho
Have you even read the people saying it? Ive just looked at this page and seen people that aren't Limerick fans say it...One of them has a Cork jersey as an avatar that may be a hint?
Whats sad is your joke of a club not even telling people they were going to be with out a club......
Shows what Monaghan (and I suspect most clubs ) think of the PFAI :rolleyes: Good luck to them with that last bit though (I suspect they are going to need it).Quote:
Originally Posted by monkey9
Bit weird considering the most vocal about this isn't a Limerick fan and most Limerick fans haven't exactly stuck the knife in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morginho
Sounds like someone needs to do some 'getting over it' themselves
We need to stop splitting the LOI away.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Its an embarressment for Irish football. Everyone involved in it
Always had a soft spot for Monaghan. Sad to see them go.
Here's a fella who can't read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morginho
You didn't do up the budget by any chance did you??
I've a lot of sympathy for Monaghan United but that's just not good enough. The players deserve at the very least to find out directly from the club. Passing that responsibility onto player and management representatives isn't good enough. The idea of some players finding out through twitter that they're club is leaving the league is disgraceful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicme
The idea that union reps didn't pass on the information is as bad. This issue is nothing in the grand scheme of things. its a complete red herring.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalwayRed
Back onto the real issue...
So is the league just going to be cut to 11 teams with one team not playing every week?
Why are good LOI fans on this forum and elsewhere calling the League a joke ? Every Club in it wants to competitive and provide fans with a decent/good/high level of soccer, so I don't find that particularly funny ! The joke is the FAI who can't/won't or refuse to support the decent Real Supporter in providing a proper Senior League ! My best wishes to The decent Monaghan people within the club who strived for better.
Sorry Dodge, me bad, actually meant to say FAI not the LOI, fixed it, thanks. Yeah as a LOI fan im a bit peed off as I guess we all are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I'm devastated for the Monaghan officials and fans, I know how it feels but I wonder how many of 'best fans in the world TM' or the FAI alickadoos will actually give a **** that a senior club has pulled out of football back home?
I always had good time for your club it alaways seemed to be well run; i.e living within its' means and to those that travelled the length and breadth of the country and give up their spare time for the betterment of your club I am truly sorry.
I wonder how much do the league affiliation fees/ matchday official fees etc cost now? I can imagine that they must have been a substantial drain on a club with limited resources?
How is this the FAI's fault?
Who approved their budget?Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Monaghan United, another jokeshop club forced to face reality.
Harsh. I've never consider Monaghan Utd a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partizan
Just saw this on twitter:
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Originally Posted by bpfootball
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Originally Posted by White Horse
Not really harsh they caused this and then treated people terribly.
I generally find it saves time to just presume they are responsible for anything that goes wrong :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
We don't actually know who the club considered player reps, and whether it included the players PFAI rep(s) - could be any of the players, and wouldn't be the first time an employer has pulled such a trick. btw it's fairly obvious they aren't going to honour player contracts - if they were they might as well see out the season, but good work (for once) of the PFAI to highlight it in the press release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
They oversee club licencing, which is supposed to check a clubs financial viability. Either the club lied to the licencing committee, or licencing accepted unrealistic assumptions. Maybe fair enough to absolve them if this was the first time licencing has been shown to be a total farce...Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
How many full time players did Monaghan have ?
Saddened to hear this, joined the same time as Newcastle West, lasted a touch longer though. Its those supporters I feel for today.
Devastated for the fans, players and volunteers of Monaghan, I'd heard they were in trouble but didn't think it would have the plug pulled so soon without even a consultation with the PFAI, FAI or whoever.
The whole licensing system shown as a total farce yet again.
With Dundalk seemingly on their uppers and rumors flying about a couple of others, how long before a one division league? Limerick, Longford,Waterford, Bohs, Bray etc should rethink whatever they were going to do about strengthening in the window to become/stay as a Premier team for next year, because it looks increasingly likely it won't matter a flying f**k.
Fair point on player reps. Could've been any two they choseQuote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Just have a particular issue with PFAI moaning about player finding out from social media considering the tweets last August from PFAI's solicitor about Pats euro bonus ********
The FAI would have granted the licence based on figures submitted.
Again, how is it their fault if Monaghan under or over estimated certain items which they then submitted.
Can't always be the FAI's fault this.
And I have no love for the FAI for many reasons, but clubs need to start getting real.
The players contacted were the team captain and the player who has been dealing with the PFAI.
The FAI were told of the seriousness of our situation at the meeting a few weeks back and knew this was coming if we didnt secure a sponsor.
So much I want to say here that would clarify things but I can't as I dont want people in my club getting in trouble for repeating some of the stuff that has happened in the last few weeks.
Am so angry. The last few weeks have been so hard. It has been like nursing a cancer patient, relief that it is now over but the gut wrenching pain of losing a loved one.
Too easy to blame the FAI on this one but I cant see how this is their fault.
Monaghan's budget would have "assumed" /"projected" gate receipts to go up as a result of playing in the Premier / more away fans etc.
Now unless those "projections" were ridiciously over estimated and the FAI then accepted such a set of ridiculous estimates, how is it the FAIs fault?
Yours for a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Limerick and Longford Im sure will want to strengthen where possible. Why would they not want to win the league?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nailor
In the Prem, Im sure the top 3 or 4 clubs will have eyes on the title with a further few hoping to get into Europe.
I feel very sorry for the fans of Monaghan today, we almost went to the wall in the "off-season" and it was tough times so can only imagine what it's like now to all of a sudden not have a club.
I'd wager well over 50% of the clubs are struggling to make wage payments at the moment. Long way to go in the season yet.
Clearly thats in play here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mario
And I don't think anyone is suggesting Monaghan don't bare the majority of blame here. Of course they do, but everyone involved in licensing is culpable
FAI Press Release
FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION OF IRELAND
Monday, June 18, 2012
FAI statement re Monaghan United FC
The Football Association of Ireland today (June 18) confirmed that Monaghan United has notified the League Department of its formal intention to withdraw from the Airtricity League of Ireland Premier Division. The club had met with the National League Director in the past month and no indication of this decision was flagged at that meeting.
Speaking today, Fran Gavin, Director of the Airtricity League said: "We met with the officials of Monaghan United less than a month ago to get an update on where they were with their budget for the season. At that time there was absolutely no question of withdrawing from the league. Today's announcement from Monaghan United is a surprise to us and is very disappointing.
"We have been assisting the club in recent weeks to try and help them source a main sponsor."
The FAI have called a Board Meeting this afternoon in Poland where the matter will be discussed. The Board members present in Poland are there at their own expense.
Chairman of the National League Eamon Naughton and Airtricity League Director Fran Gavin expressed their disappointment at Monaghan United’s decision after the growth that the club has seen since its entry to the League of Ireland in 1985.
Monaghan United has received significant support from the FAI and the National League including a facility development loan for €150,000 of which over €100,000 is still outstanding. The FAI also provided a €25,000 grant to the club in 2009 during its AGM in Monaghan, as well as providing assistance in securing Sports Capital Grants for the club.
A further statement will be issued later this evening once the FAI Board has had the opportunity to consider the matter fully and determine the next steps.
Stephen Finn
Communications Executive
Football Association of Ireland
Surely this sums up the farce that is the FAI Licencing system and procedures....Quote:
Originally Posted by Battery Rover
Will Delaney be able to pull himself away from his pint to attend this meeting..
Monaghan have committed to paying their creditors. I presume this loan is one of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Battery Rover
It's the FAI. The meeting is at the bar and pints will be on expenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunny
Loved going up to Monaghan. Great little ground, lovely bar, great food and really nice people. Such a shame.
Terrible news. I feel for all of their fans. I feel nothing for all the Manchester United and Liverpool fans in Monaghan who won't be aware this has happened, if they're even aware they had a League of Ireland side to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Magicme
Some very contradictory stuff there. Feel a lot of sympathy for you MM you've more or less embodied Monaghan Utd for posters here and I don't think anyone could help but be impressed by your dedication and enthusiasm. If it's any compensation I'm sure most on here would be more likely to believe your side of events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Battery Rover
The FAI don't make mention of the thousands of € worth of "free time" they get on the Astro pitch as well as us making payments every month on their loan. The fact that we have provided a base for Cavan and Monaghan football development is soon forgotten by them.
Our budgets were very modest and were seemingly attainable but things got much worse than expected.
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Originally Posted by dong
Whats the point in licencing at all if you can just go in and give figures that are so far wrong you fold mid season...
Surely has to be some sort of checks that the figures are reasonable.