surely odea deserves to be picked after his good recent performances, especially russia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
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surely odea deserves to be picked after his good recent performances, especially russia?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
A bit harsh alright, assuming Trap's indications are being interpreted correctly. O'Dea hasn't done anything wrong since coming in. Much to my own surprise if I'm honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Certainly can feel unlucky, but O'Shea will be expected to lead the defence with his experience and Kelly will be more of a threat from right back (him and Ward really should be told to play as extra wingers almost).
Now the butterflies are kicking in.
Is St Ledger not injured? He hasn't been making Leicester squads recently.
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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Don't get your hopes up.
They're not. But in terms of really attacking a minnow team, I'd rather have Kelly at right back than O'Shea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irwin3
id rather have coleman or foleyQuote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
You think we're really going to attack that much? :) I just hope Andorra don't score. They'll be confident of bagging one since we're the only team they've scored against.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Fair enough though I think Kelly gets a tough deal. He's been very reliable since Georgia a few years ago, and was excellent in Russia. Think he can bring an attacking game, too, if he's allowed. Foley hasn't looked comfortable at international level. Coleman, sure, think we could see him off the bench at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by the bear
Yes I think our intention will be to attack more, so play the more mobile, more natural right back no? We should take a cold, hard look at ourselves if Andorra grab anything other than a screamer like they did last time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator
Kelly is my favoured right back too. Andorra's goal was a screamer, admittedly, and while my comment was somewhat tongue in cheek, they've scored against us in the past too. I remember when they took the lead at the old Lansdowne in 2001...Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Seven clean sheets in a row though! We really should be making it eight though, of course, it wouldn't surprise me if they grabbed a goal from nothing.
It'd almost be worth it to hear Trap proclaim himself 'pi$$ed off' at ending the streak, ala Mick in Tehran. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Records like that start to add pressure on players the longer they go on. I'm convinced Ferguson wasn't that bothered about losing to Wolves last season but if they had continued unbeaten and lost to Chelsea, for example, it a would have done far more damage. Losing it meant no more stories in the less about how long it could go on, would they match Arsenal's achievement, etc. Compare that to how Arsenal list their unbeaten run to United, and arguably still haven't recovered.
Similarly, if we concede against Andorra, I'm still convinced we'll score more then them and win. If we concede against Armenia, especially the opener, then it's a case of "we've lost the record and now have to come from behind to win".
Ildefons Lima. I'll never forget that name. Thankfully we equalised immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator
The excitement is kicking in. Watching that rugby match in Saturday will be tough going.
On the face of it, I'd be surprised if O'Dea was dropped. He's done relatively well at centre back. and with all due respect to Josh, he's not a leader at centre back, he's never been a leader in the sense of Richard Dunne or Paul McGrath or Roy Keane have been in the past. O'Dea has featured in quite a few of the run too - Mace in Skopje, Scotland, Italy, Russia, not too shabby at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
I'd imagine if he plays the doc and Josh it's to give Ledger some game time ahead of Armenia, when Dunne will be back, considering he hasn't been playing for Leicester. Ledger is a big threat in the opposition box too, which stands to him. Still given how they shouldn't threaten us, why make two changes to the team (Josh -> Kelly; Dunne-> O'Dea) against Armenia (at least) when the team against Andorra could necessitate only one straight change (Dunne->O'Dea)
I'd have no qualms either with him going for Coleman at rb.
Nerves are jingle-jangling. This is what I miss most about the drinking, the calm one midweek to ponder the game.
Up there with Manuel Marani and Michalis Konstantinou.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
'Shudder'. And Goran Stavrevski, Toni Polster and Abas Suan.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
could actually be a wrong interpretation. i heard it reported last evening that it was between oshea and st ledger to replace dunne. no mention of anyone replacing odea so he must be considered likely to startQuote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
Andorra will score I reckon.
Just we should score more.
Not worried about that game, but Armenia.
Feel a little sick at the prospect of that Armenian game. Nothing like pre-Irish game nerves. Jaysus.
Kinda of resigned to it by now, no matter who we play. As we rarely know what sort of performance we'll get.
Probably make hard work of it on Friday, but if we can beat Armenia too, most will be happy enough.
Though If that happens, looking forward to the play-offs even less.
That's the consequence of a persistent 1/2 empty cup outlook.
It certainly is.
If someone has their glass even half full after watching Ireland all these years, besides the height of the Charlton era, they're seriously deluded.
Crikey, so qualifying with 24 points under Mick doesn't even fill the glass over half way?
We now know that a WC Q/F is what fills your glass over that mark.
Then you don't have a 1/2 empty cup outlook,Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
your cup is empty :)
He doesnt even drink out of a glass. Its a paper cup, miserable sod!! ;-)
the fullness of the glass should be measured against the resources (playing and otherwise) at any given time when the glass is being pouredQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Tommy Martin, via Twitter, says the 'firsts' in today's training game featured O'Shea at right back, O'Dea and St.Ledger at centre half, Andrews and Fahey in the middle of the park and Keane and Doyle up front. Make of that what you will.
We know that Junior doesn't like his beer glass to be empty.
Andrews and Fahey is interesting, seeing as how Whelan is an ever present under TrapattoniQuote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Isn't Whelan a yellow away from suspension? Fahey is the kind of creative player who could thrive against Andorra. I'd like to see him start either way.
Good point - possibly doesn't want to risk Whelan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme feet
How many others are currently on a yellow??
Ward, Hunt, Cox, Westwood, Gibson, Doyle and Whelan. Dunne will serve his second suspension of the group on Friday, while St. Ledger served his suspension against Russia.
For some reason I thought he had a long term injury but I like the prospect of Fahey starting against Andorra. Might take someone like him to pick the lock. Regarding the analogous glass, I may as well register the fact that I'm generally a seven ninths full kinda person. Enough to avoid spillage.
'Tis an incomparable kind of nervous excitement. I love it. And I hate it. But I love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
I have feeling Andorra will score myself but think we will win 3-1
It just struck me that losing Kilbane for the Andorra match in particular is worse than when he misses any other match (which is bad enough) as he loves scoring against Andorra.
You mean when we qualified via a Play-off!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
;)
Very creditable though that campaign was.
And just as a matter of interest (at this moment in time), don't the play-off games count as group games when it comes to disciplinary matters, e.g. a player picking up a second yellow in the last group game would serve a suspension in the first play off game?